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p.6 #1 · Tamron 150 600 is it a Keeper??


pperham wrote:
Any AF results/opinions of this lens on a 1D3?


Works first class on my 1D Mk3. Normal autofocus is fine in either range setting and all AF options including servo.

Strangely though, earlier this week a couple of 7D users asked if they could try it on their cameras. First guy used 1 7D body with a 70-300 Tamron, the other guy had 2 bodies. On one was the 100-400, the other I didn't see.

The first one said he thought it was a great lens and had no problems doing BIF's in servo. Second guy had the problems described here and elsewhere. When he tried it with his second body it was fine. Unfortunately I didn't have time to hang around and I could only suggest that they double checked all settings on the failure one against the 2 cameras that worked.

No idea what the answer would be but it suggests to me that the lens firmware may not be relating to a particular setting correctly or something else. As mine works ok and will almost be a permanent fitting on the 1D3 then I will certainly be keeping mine. It is a lovely lens imho.

Denis.



Feb 07, 2014 at 12:04 PM
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p.6 #2 · Tamron 150 600 is it a Keeper??


Who did you order from and how long ago.
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Mine shipped at 0815 this morning, no projected delivery date yet.
We're suppose to have nasty weather next week so....................




Feb 07, 2014 at 03:11 PM
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denisg wrote:
Works first class on my 1D Mk3. Normal autofocus is fine in either range setting and all AF options including servo.


And are you going to post examples of a burst of sequential shots in AI Servo for us?



Feb 07, 2014 at 03:16 PM
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p.6 #4 · Tamron 150 600 is it a Keeper??


Ordered mine from B+H 1/21.
Just got email it will be here Monday.



Feb 07, 2014 at 03:27 PM
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Yes, called my place of order, and cancelled as it was supposed to be in on the 17th. They told me it was still on schedule to ship, so yes still shipping with known issues it would seem.
Both my cameras are on the list of no-go with this lens so a wait and see I guess.



Feb 07, 2014 at 03:28 PM
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p.6 #6 · Tamron 150 600 is it a Keeper??


Thanks Denis. Very interesting first post. Welcome! As tony said, a sequential burst of AI Servo images from the Tammy/1d3 combination would be a great 2nd post. Cheers!


Feb 07, 2014 at 03:31 PM
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p.6 #7 · Tamron 150 600 is it a Keeper??


Anyone know how this lens works with a Canon 50d?


Feb 07, 2014 at 03:43 PM
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Anybody tried one on a 1Ds2? You've all got far too modern camera bodies for my liking! 600mm on FF would be fine for me, so I'll likely sell the 7D.


Yes, the images I've posted were all with 1Ds Mkll. I've tried it with 7D, but it needs a MFA and with our unusual weather (rain, sea fog etc.) I've not been able to adjust the body/lens.

I can however, confirm it's weather resistance. I shot with the lens for about 30 minutes in moderate rain Wednesday and have several nice shots of a Red shoulder Hawk.

http://photos3.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/3/c/8/e/600_330915502.jpeg



Feb 07, 2014 at 04:11 PM
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I was thinking:
1. I have heard from different sources (incl. tamron corp. people) that Tamron Is the only 3rd party manufacturer that officially purchases a license from Canon to make lenses with Canon's AF technology. If Canon was smart, and I'm sure they are, they would require Tamron to repurchase the license periodically, annually, biannually, whatever. Let's say the last time the license was purchased Canon sold them algorythms, data and so on based on the AF technologies of their latest cameras. Hence the difficulties with older cameras. Just saying.
2. A lot of the cameras in question are not supposed to focus at f6.3 so Tamron has to fool the camera into thinking that the max aperture is f5.6. More tinkering with the code. Has anybody ever been able to use a lens with max aperture of f6.3 and successfully done BIF with a Canon camera designed to AF at f5.6?
Incidently, I sold my 7D and bought a 70D 1 week before I got my Tamron 150-600. I also have a 5DMKIII and it seems to work fine on both.



Feb 07, 2014 at 04:16 PM
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They are also still shipping them from Dodd camera. They had a delay the past couple of days because of the weather.


Feb 07, 2014 at 05:10 PM
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Jeff Donald wrote:
Yes, the images I've posted were all with 1Ds Mkll.


And some of these are sequential shots in AI Servo?



Feb 07, 2014 at 06:06 PM
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gwaww wrote:
Has anybody ever been able to use a lens with max aperture of f6.3 and successfully done BIF with a Canon camera designed to AF at f5.6?


Yes, 7D & 400 f5.6 & non-reporting 1.4x TC, and it did it better than the bare Tamron 150-600mm.



Feb 07, 2014 at 06:55 PM
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gwaww wrote:
Incidently, I sold my 7D and bought a 70D 1 week before I got my Tamron 150-600. I also have a 5DMKIII and it seems to work fine on both.

I was considering selling my 7D in favor of the 70D but I'm not sure it's an upgrade at all. What was the deciding factor, other then in works with the Tamron? To me that's not a reason to sell a good lens for possibly a lessor camera to retrofit the new lens.

The 6D also works but I have an older 5D mkII. Is that an upgrade? I'll have to do further research to find out.



Feb 07, 2014 at 06:59 PM
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sfink161 wrote:
I was considering selling my 7D in favor of the 70D but I'm not sure it's an upgrade at all. What was the deciding factor, other then in works with the Tamron? To me that's not a reason to sell a good lens for possibly a lessor camera to retrofit the new lens.

The 6D also works but I have an older 5D mkII. Is that an upgrade? I'll have to do further research to find out.


I had no idea that either one would or would not work with the Tamron lens. I wanted to start fooling around with video and thought that the 70D would be an upgrade in that manner. And it is. It's nice to have AF in video mode and I really like the touch screen. I also get full function with my 600ex rt flashes.



Feb 07, 2014 at 07:26 PM
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gwaww wrote:
I was thinking:
1. I have heard from different sources (incl. tamron corp. people) that Tamron Is the only 3rd party manufacturer that officially purchases a license from Canon to make lenses with Canon's AF technology. If Canon was smart, and I'm sure they are, they would require Tamron to repurchase the license periodically, annually, biannually, whatever. Let's say the last time the license was purchased Canon sold them algorythms, data and so on based on the AF technologies of their latest cameras. Hence the difficulties with older cameras. Just saying.
2. A lot of the cameras in question are not supposed
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If they have an agreement it will span over all cameras. Further up somebody confirmed that the lens does not have the AI servo issue on the 1Dx. The very similar 1DMk4 seems to have that issue. I am theorizing that the Tamron lens has a bug in the communication protocol.
I don't think f/6.3 is an issue on any Canon. Perhaps except 10D,20D,30D and those are quite old indeed..
All 1D's and you 5DIII can even focus at f/8.



Feb 07, 2014 at 11:32 PM
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p.6 #16 · Tamron 150 600 is it a Keeper??


Quick question to all 1DMkIV owners:

Did you try to modify AF sensitivity? Maybe that helps with the AI servo issue?

Thanks.

Cheers.



Feb 07, 2014 at 11:34 PM
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Quick answer, you should not have to modify AF sensitivity.

And yes, it made no difference on mine.



Feb 07, 2014 at 11:49 PM
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And some of these are sequential shots in AI Servo?


The weather has not been conducive for BIF in the week I've owned the lens. Sea fog, rain, mist and heavy rain don't make for the best of conditions for your sequential BIF test. Give it a rest Tony, you've made your point and you've even started a thread for your request/challenge. No point in badgering people.



Feb 08, 2014 at 12:16 AM
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p.6 #19 · Tamron 150 600 is it a Keeper??


denisg wrote:
Works first class on my 1D Mk3. Normal autofocus is fine in either range setting and all AF options including servo.

Strangely though, earlier this week a couple of 7D users asked if they could try it on their cameras. First guy used 1 7D body with a 70-300 Tamron, the other guy had 2 bodies. On one was the 100-400, the other I didn't see.

The first one said he thought it was a great lens and had no problems doing BIF's in servo. Second guy had the problems described here and elsewhere. When he tried it with his second body
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Thanks for joining FM and adding your data points. We would much appreciate if you could post a sequence of AI Servo shots with the 1D3 or any camera for that matter. Tell Tamron we say hi



Feb 08, 2014 at 08:28 AM
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RAW-Shooter wrote:
If they have an agreement it will span over all cameras. Further up somebody confirmed that the lens does not have the AI servo issue on the 1Dx. The very similar 1DMk4 seems to have that issue. I am theorizing that the Tamron lens has a bug in the communication protocol.
I don't think f/6.3 is an issue on any Canon. Perhaps except 10D,20D,30D and those are quite old indeed..
All 1D's and you 5DIII can even focus at f/8.


The 1DX and 1D4 are about as far from similar in the AF department as you can get....there is no surprise it could be working fine on the newest system (likely what they used for testing and likely a bad idea) and not working on the 1D4 or 7D (the system they should have tested on due to market conditions and the lens' price point).



Feb 08, 2014 at 08:32 AM
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