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p.22 #1Sony A7/A7R Setup
On review, is there a way for the zoom not go all the way in? I wish it was gradually zooming in, rather than zoomed in all the way and going the other direction....
Aug 22, 2014 at 08:54 AM
p.22 #2Sony A7/A7R Setup
Loving my A7 so far, but have two quick questions (sorry if they've been answered before):
1. When reviewing a photo and pressing the zoom button it magnifies to 100%. Surely there's a way to make this behave like other cameras, with each incremental press zooming in closer instead of jumping straight to 1:1?
2. Similarly to above, is there a way to control the level of magnification when using focus magnification assist?
Cheers
1. When reviewing a photo and pressing the zoom button it magnifies to 100%. Surely there's a way to make this behave like other cameras, with each incremental press zooming in closer instead of jumping straight to 1:1?
2. Similarly to above, is there a way to control the level of magnification when using focus magnification assist?
Cheers
Sep 17, 2014 at 04:55 AM
p.22 #3Sony A7/A7R Setup
crazeazn wrote:
On review, is there a way for the zoom not go all the way in? I wish it was gradually zooming in, rather than zoomed in all the way and going the other direction....
Intric8 wrote:
Loving my A7 so far, but have two quick questions (sorry if they've been answered before):
1. When reviewing a photo and pressing the zoom button it magnifies to 100%. Surely there's a way to make this behave like other cameras, with each incremental press zooming in closer instead of jumping straight to 1:1?
2. Similarly to above, is there a way to control the level of magnification when using focus magnification assist?
Cheers
1. Not adjustable. A thing they added is if you scroll with the wheels it will go to the next photo and keep the same magnification point so you can compare the images.
2. There are only 2 magnifications available for focus assist.
On review, is there a way for the zoom not go all the way in? I wish it was gradually zooming in, rather than zoomed in all the way and going the other direction....
Intric8 wrote:
Loving my A7 so far, but have two quick questions (sorry if they've been answered before):
1. When reviewing a photo and pressing the zoom button it magnifies to 100%. Surely there's a way to make this behave like other cameras, with each incremental press zooming in closer instead of jumping straight to 1:1?
2. Similarly to above, is there a way to control the level of magnification when using focus magnification assist?
Cheers
1. Not adjustable. A thing they added is if you scroll with the wheels it will go to the next photo and keep the same magnification point so you can compare the images.
2. There are only 2 magnifications available for focus assist.
Sep 17, 2014 at 06:22 AM
p.22 #4Sony A7/A7R Setup
I wish that rotating the back wheel wouldn't move to the next image, you're all magnified and trying to pan around the image when suddenly it's a different picture. Really annoying.
Sep 17, 2014 at 08:09 AM
p.22 #5Sony A7/A7R Setup
So, now I have had my A7 for about 6 weeks and am relatively pleased with it. There is one issue though, which I hope is caused by some setting I missed:
The EVF is dark/murky and hard to see. The first weeks it was often sunny so I assumed my problems were caused by light leaking in between my eye and the EVF but these last days it has been overcast and still I can't quite make out what's on the sides and corners, meaning I have to guess. Very frustrating since the EVF was one reason for buying the camera in the first place.
I have tried both Auto and Manual (set to +2) settings and both are just too dark. Also I have tried "Live View Display" both on and off. Are there any other setting that may affect EVF brightness?
The EVF is dark/murky and hard to see. The first weeks it was often sunny so I assumed my problems were caused by light leaking in between my eye and the EVF but these last days it has been overcast and still I can't quite make out what's on the sides and corners, meaning I have to guess. Very frustrating since the EVF was one reason for buying the camera in the first place.
I have tried both Auto and Manual (set to +2) settings and both are just too dark. Also I have tried "Live View Display" both on and off. Are there any other setting that may affect EVF brightness?
Sep 22, 2014 at 06:23 AM
p.22 #6Sony A7/A7R Setup
HelenaN wrote:
So, now I have had my A7 for about 6 weeks and am relatively pleased with it. There is one issue though, which I hope is caused by some setting I missed:
The EVF is dark/murky and hard to see. The first weeks it was often sunny so I assumed my problems were caused by light leaking in between my eye and the EVF but these last days it has been overcast and still I can't quite make out what's on the sides and corners, meaning I have to guess. Very frustrating since the EVF was one reason for buying the...Show more →
Do you use MF lenses with your A7 camera? if so, there is a "Live View Display" option that the EVF automatically adjusts the brightness no matter which manual aperture you have selected on your MF lens (for example the viewfinder normally gets much darker with stopped down apertures, but the EVF can then adjust to this and brighten it up).
So, now I have had my A7 for about 6 weeks and am relatively pleased with it. There is one issue though, which I hope is caused by some setting I missed:
The EVF is dark/murky and hard to see. The first weeks it was often sunny so I assumed my problems were caused by light leaking in between my eye and the EVF but these last days it has been overcast and still I can't quite make out what's on the sides and corners, meaning I have to guess. Very frustrating since the EVF was one reason for buying the...Show more →
Do you use MF lenses with your A7 camera? if so, there is a "Live View Display" option that the EVF automatically adjusts the brightness no matter which manual aperture you have selected on your MF lens (for example the viewfinder normally gets much darker with stopped down apertures, but the EVF can then adjust to this and brighten it up).
Sep 22, 2014 at 06:33 AM
p.22 #7Sony A7/A7R Setup
Are your images dark too? It uses exposure simulation.
You could always reset the camera to factory defaults as a last resort.
Maybe time to call Sony?
David
You could always reset the camera to factory defaults as a last resort.
Maybe time to call Sony?
David
Sep 22, 2014 at 06:35 AM
p.22 #8Sony A7/A7R Setup
retrofocus wrote:
Do you use MF lenses with your A7 camera? if so, there is a "Live View Display" option that the EVF automatically adjusts the brightness no matter which manual aperture you have selected on your MF lens (for example the viewfinder normally gets much darker with stopped down apertures, but the EVF can then adjust to this and brighten it up).
Thank you for trying to help! Yes, MF, but like I said in my post above I have already tried with it on and off. (Unless I have missed some setting with the same name but more advanced options than just On and Off? You never know with Sony cameras.
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Do you use MF lenses with your A7 camera? if so, there is a "Live View Display" option that the EVF automatically adjusts the brightness no matter which manual aperture you have selected on your MF lens (for example the viewfinder normally gets much darker with stopped down apertures, but the EVF can then adjust to this and brighten it up).
Thank you for trying to help! Yes, MF, but like I said in my post above I have already tried with it on and off. (Unless I have missed some setting with the same name but more advanced options than just On and Off? You never know with Sony cameras.
)Sep 22, 2014 at 06:37 AM
p.22 #9Sony A7/A7R Setup
dgdg wrote:
Are your images dark too? It uses exposure simulation.
You could always reset the camera to factory defaults as a last resort.
Maybe time to call Sony?
David
Thanks! No, the photos come out fine. It's just that the EVF is dark and hard to see in everything other than ideal light.
Maybe I just have too high expectations. I had read so much about how big and bright it's supposed to be, so I thought it'd be similar to my old 5D's optical VF, but I guess that's unrealistic.
Are your images dark too? It uses exposure simulation.
You could always reset the camera to factory defaults as a last resort.
Maybe time to call Sony?
David
Thanks! No, the photos come out fine. It's just that the EVF is dark and hard to see in everything other than ideal light.
Maybe I just have too high expectations. I had read so much about how big and bright it's supposed to be, so I thought it'd be similar to my old 5D's optical VF, but I guess that's unrealistic.
Sep 22, 2014 at 06:38 AM
p.22 #10Sony A7/A7R Setup
HelenaN wrote:
I have tried both Auto and Manual (set to +2) settings and both are just too dark. Also I have tried "Live View Display" both on and off. Are there any other setting that may affect EVF brightness?
As David replied, the EVF is designed to simulate the exposure when "live view display" > "setting effect on" is used. If I'm using manual flash, or studio lighting, I turn this off. In the off setting, the EVF/LCD remains a constant brightness.
The only other adjustment for the EVF is under the "suitcase" icon > page 1 > "viewfinder brightness". I leave mine set to "auto".
I have tried both Auto and Manual (set to +2) settings and both are just too dark. Also I have tried "Live View Display" both on and off. Are there any other setting that may affect EVF brightness?
As David replied, the EVF is designed to simulate the exposure when "live view display" > "setting effect on" is used. If I'm using manual flash, or studio lighting, I turn this off. In the off setting, the EVF/LCD remains a constant brightness.
The only other adjustment for the EVF is under the "suitcase" icon > page 1 > "viewfinder brightness". I leave mine set to "auto".
Sep 22, 2014 at 06:44 AM
p.22 #11Sony A7/A7R Setup
HelenaN wrote:
Thank you for trying to help! Yes, MF, but like I said in my post above I have already tried with it on and off. (Unless I have missed some setting with the same name but more advanced options than just On and Off? You never know with Sony cameras. )
Okay, just wanted to make sure that you have tried this because it makes a huge difference with stopped down MF lenses (I didn't turn it on first and was wondering why my EVF was so dark!). As far as I know there is only this option. My EVF is sufficiently bright, not sure what else could be done in your case.
retrofocus wrote
Do you use MF lenses with your A7 camera? if so, there is a "Live View Display" option that the EVF automatically adjusts the brightness no matter which manual aperture you have selected on your MF lens (for example the viewfinder normally gets much darker with stopped down apertures, but the EVF can then adjust to this and brighten it up).)Okay, just wanted to make sure that you have tried this because it makes a huge difference with stopped down MF lenses (I didn't turn it on first and was wondering why my EVF was so dark!). As far as I know there is only this option. My EVF is sufficiently bright, not sure what else could be done in your case.
Sep 22, 2014 at 06:47 AM
p.22 #12Sony A7/A7R Setup
Thank you both, I appreciate it. I thought it was worth asking here in case I had missed some important setting, but that's not the case it seems. I'll give A7 more time and try to get used to it, because I'm happy with the files and my C/Y 28mm/2.8.
Sep 22, 2014 at 06:51 AM
p.22 #13Sony A7/A7R Setup
Are you sure it's not defective? Mine is bright enough! Much brighter than the Fuji X-E1 that I still have (and that you had too).
Sep 22, 2014 at 07:02 AM
p.22 #14Sony A7/A7R Setup
HelenaN wrote:
Thank you both, I appreciate it. I thought it was worth asking here in case I had missed some important setting, but that's not the case it seems. I'll give A7 more time and try to get used to it, because I'm happy with the files and my C/Y 28mm/2.8.
I guess it could be defective possibly. Something else to try is to use "Setting effects on" and then change the jpeg setting contrast to -3, maybe increase Sat a bit and then change "Creative Style"> Neutral and DRO/Auto HDR to at least LV1. Of course, that will not affect raws but the jpeg setting will change the EVF display with "effects on" and you can use that to your advantage.
edit. I see you posted this " I thought it'd be similar to my old 5D's optical VF, but I guess that's unrealistic."
No, in bright light, the EVF is going to suck compared to an optical finder with regard to brightness and dynamic range. I thought you had used EVF's before though. The jpeg setting trick above will get you a bit better DR though. I'm sure you also know that with "Setting effects on", exposure compensation will show in the EVF. Thus, if you normally underexpose, it's going to make the EVF darker of course.
Thank you both, I appreciate it. I thought it was worth asking here in case I had missed some important setting, but that's not the case it seems. I'll give A7 more time and try to get used to it, because I'm happy with the files and my C/Y 28mm/2.8.
I guess it could be defective possibly. Something else to try is to use "Setting effects on" and then change the jpeg setting contrast to -3, maybe increase Sat a bit and then change "Creative Style"> Neutral and DRO/Auto HDR to at least LV1. Of course, that will not affect raws but the jpeg setting will change the EVF display with "effects on" and you can use that to your advantage.
edit. I see you posted this " I thought it'd be similar to my old 5D's optical VF, but I guess that's unrealistic."
No, in bright light, the EVF is going to suck compared to an optical finder with regard to brightness and dynamic range. I thought you had used EVF's before though. The jpeg setting trick above will get you a bit better DR though. I'm sure you also know that with "Setting effects on", exposure compensation will show in the EVF. Thus, if you normally underexpose, it's going to make the EVF darker of course.
Sep 22, 2014 at 07:17 AM
p.22 #15Sony A7/A7R Setup
xbarcelo wrote:
Are you sure it's not defective? Mine is bright enough! Much brighter than the Fuji X-E1 that I still have (and that you had too).
Hmm, I guess it could be defective, but it seems unlikely? I wish I knew someone around here with A7 so that I could compare. Maybe I should visit the shop it town and ask if I could try one of theirs.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
I guess it could be defective possibly. Something else to try is to use "Setting effects on" and then change the jpeg setting contrast to -3, maybe increase Sat a bit and then change "Creative Style"> Neutral and DRO/Auto HDR to at least LV1. Of course, that will not affect raws but the jpeg setting will change the EVF display with "effects on" and you can use that to your advantage.
edit. I see you posted this " I thought it'd be similar to my old 5D's optical VF, but I guess that's unrealistic."
No, in bright light, the EVF is...Show more →
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'll try your tips.
I'm beginning to think that I'm just too demanding but I don't remember X-E1's EVF to be this dark in normal overcast weather. Hard to compare by memory though, so I'm probably mistaken.
Are you sure it's not defective? Mine is bright enough! Much brighter than the Fuji X-E1 that I still have (and that you had too).
Hmm, I guess it could be defective, but it seems unlikely? I wish I knew someone around here with A7 so that I could compare. Maybe I should visit the shop it town and ask if I could try one of theirs.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
I guess it could be defective possibly. Something else to try is to use "Setting effects on" and then change the jpeg setting contrast to -3, maybe increase Sat a bit and then change "Creative Style"> Neutral and DRO/Auto HDR to at least LV1. Of course, that will not affect raws but the jpeg setting will change the EVF display with "effects on" and you can use that to your advantage.
edit. I see you posted this " I thought it'd be similar to my old 5D's optical VF, but I guess that's unrealistic."
No, in bright light, the EVF is...Show more →
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'll try your tips.
I'm beginning to think that I'm just too demanding
but I don't remember X-E1's EVF to be this dark in normal overcast weather. Hard to compare by memory though, so I'm probably mistaken.Sep 22, 2014 at 07:40 AM
p.22 #16Sony A7/A7R Setup
HelenaN wrote:
You could always reset the camera to factory defaults as a last resort.
Maybe time to call Sony?
DavidThanks! No, the photos come out fine. It's just that the EVF is dark and hard to see in everything other than ideal light.
Maybe I just have too high expectations. I had read so much about how big and bright it's supposed to be, so I thought it'd be similar to my old 5D's optical VF, but I guess that's unrealistic.
This is typical of the A7R. It's not a defect, as all 3 copies of the camera I've owned so far behave exactly the same way, regardless of the camera settings.
The viewfinders on the Fuji X-T1 and the Olympus OM-D E-M1 are significantly better; hopefully Sony will improve this before they abandon the platform.
dgdg wrote
Are your images dark too? It uses exposure simulation.You could always reset the camera to factory defaults as a last resort.
Maybe time to call Sony?
David
Maybe I just have too high expectations. I had read so much about how big and bright it's supposed to be, so I thought it'd be similar to my old 5D's optical VF, but I guess that's unrealistic.
This is typical of the A7R. It's not a defect, as all 3 copies of the camera I've owned so far behave exactly the same way, regardless of the camera settings.
The viewfinders on the Fuji X-T1 and the Olympus OM-D E-M1 are significantly better; hopefully Sony will improve this before they abandon the platform.
Sep 22, 2014 at 08:36 AM
p.22 #17Sony A7/A7R Setup
molson wrote:
This is typical of the A7R. It's not a defect, as all 3 copies of the camera I've owned so far behave exactly the same way, regardless of the camera settings.
The viewfinders on the Fuji X-T1 and the Olympus OM-D E-M1 are significantly better; hopefully Sony will improve this before they abandon the platform.
Sorry to hear that!
Oh well, lots of people seem to be happy with theirs, so maybe I can be too after have gotten used to it. We'll see.
This is typical of the A7R. It's not a defect, as all 3 copies of the camera I've owned so far behave exactly the same way, regardless of the camera settings.
The viewfinders on the Fuji X-T1 and the Olympus OM-D E-M1 are significantly better; hopefully Sony will improve this before they abandon the platform.
Sorry to hear that!
Oh well, lots of people seem to be happy with theirs, so maybe I can be too after have gotten used to it. We'll see.
Sep 22, 2014 at 11:01 AM
p.22 #18Sony A7/A7R Setup
I have the A7 and used the A7R for a week. I never noticed an issue with the evf.
What I see in the evf seems equivalent to the lcd.
Coming from a full frame dslr I'm fairly picky.
Did you try a factory reset?
If it is that bad, I'd call Sony and consider sending it in.
David
What I see in the evf seems equivalent to the lcd.
Coming from a full frame dslr I'm fairly picky.
Did you try a factory reset?
If it is that bad, I'd call Sony and consider sending it in.
David
Sep 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM
p.22 #19Sony A7/A7R Setup
HelenaN wrote:
The viewfinders on the Fuji X-T1 and the Olympus OM-D E-M1 are significantly better; hopefully Sony will improve this before they abandon the platform.Sorry to hear that!
Oh well, lots of people seem to be happy with theirs, so maybe I can be too after have gotten used to it. We'll see.
As long as you don't use any other cameras, you will likely just get used to it, like everyone else has. My problem is that I have too many other cameras that are much better in this one particular aspect.
molson wrote
This is typical of the A7R. It's not a defect, as all 3 copies of the camera I've owned so far behave exactly the same way, regardless of the camera settings.The viewfinders on the Fuji X-T1 and the Olympus OM-D E-M1 are significantly better; hopefully Sony will improve this before they abandon the platform.
Oh well, lots of people seem to be happy with theirs, so maybe I can be too after have gotten used to it. We'll see.
As long as you don't use any other cameras, you will likely just get used to it, like everyone else has. My problem is that I have too many other cameras that are much better in this one particular aspect.
Sep 22, 2014 at 11:23 AM
p.22 #20Sony A7/A7R Setup
The A7 was the first mirrorless where I was finally satisfied with the EVF - brightness, speed, lack of grain. I am used to large full frame dslr view finders that are large and bright. Obviously it is not the same, but I think it is more than good enough. I'm sure they will continue to improve over the years.
Sep 22, 2014 at 11:48 AM