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p.19 #1Sony A7/A7R Setup
sirimiri wrote:
I set the "Power Save Start Time" but my A7R never goes to sleep. To often, I remove it from a bag and the batter is dead.
Even with the viewfinder turned off (monitor only, e.g. no proximity sensor) the camera stays on, and never sleeps.
Does anybody have any ideas as to what's keeping it "awake"? I'd rather snipe the option that has turned the camera into an insomniac, in lieu of re-registering all of the settings.
Correct, camera stays on. I set the custom function that my delete button turns off the screen at least. But the only other way to save battery is simply to turn the whole camera off if it is not used quickly again (turning off/on also drains battery of course). I also found that even the camera is fully tuned off, the battery still is slowly drained/loses charge over 1-2 weeks.
The only way to avoid a bad surprise with a drained battery is to have several charged spare ones with you. Fortunately they are small and some third party ones are fairly cheap to get, too.
I set the "Power Save Start Time" but my A7R never goes to sleep. To often, I remove it from a bag and the batter is dead.
Even with the viewfinder turned off (monitor only, e.g. no proximity sensor) the camera stays on, and never sleeps.
Does anybody have any ideas as to what's keeping it "awake"? I'd rather snipe the option that has turned the camera into an insomniac, in lieu of re-registering all of the settings.
Correct, camera stays on. I set the custom function that my delete button turns off the screen at least. But the only other way to save battery is simply to turn the whole camera off if it is not used quickly again (turning off/on also drains battery of course). I also found that even the camera is fully tuned off, the battery still is slowly drained/loses charge over 1-2 weeks.
The only way to avoid a bad surprise with a drained battery is to have several charged spare ones with you. Fortunately they are small and some third party ones are fairly cheap to get, too.
May 03, 2014 at 09:09 PM
p.19 #2Sony A7/A7R Setup
sirimiri wrote:
Hi K.v.R,
Thanks for the response. No, not that I can tell. Do you have any other ideas?
Not to pile it on, but how do I set auto bracketing, with the self-timer operation? It seems you get a self-timer or auto-bracketing but not simultaneously? If my phone is dead, I can't use it as a remote.
Maybe the wifi turned on consumes the battery. I once tried the iPad as remote and taking few photos and playing around eat more than 50% of battery. I found the functionality so crappy that I see never any point trying it again, and if in addition it saves only JPGs it's even more crappy I imagined...
Autobracketing; you can't do what you want. Buy the IR-remote controller (2$ USD from eBay or Sony) and then you can click the "2s" (2 seconds) button to bracket with self-timer. Sony made tens of stupid design decisions on this camera and combining bracketing to shooting mode menu is one of them. However enabling the remote control also eats battery (camera monitors the IR sensor constantly), due to which I turn camera off every time I put it into the bag (this is really weird as with Canon's since 2002 I haven't used power switch never except when changing battery, but I'm now slowly getting used to it after 6 months).
Samuli
Hi K.v.R,
Thanks for the response. No, not that I can tell. Do you have any other ideas?
Not to pile it on, but how do I set auto bracketing, with the self-timer operation? It seems you get a self-timer or auto-bracketing but not simultaneously? If my phone is dead, I can't use it as a remote.
Maybe the wifi turned on consumes the battery. I once tried the iPad as remote and taking few photos and playing around eat more than 50% of battery. I found the functionality so crappy that I see never any point trying it again, and if in addition it saves only JPGs it's even more crappy I imagined...
Autobracketing; you can't do what you want. Buy the IR-remote controller (2$ USD from eBay or Sony) and then you can click the "2s" (2 seconds) button to bracket with self-timer. Sony made tens of stupid design decisions on this camera and combining bracketing to shooting mode menu is one of them. However enabling the remote control also eats battery (camera monitors the IR sensor constantly), due to which I turn camera off every time I put it into the bag (this is really weird as with Canon's since 2002 I haven't used power switch never except when changing battery, but I'm now slowly getting used to it after 6 months).
Samuli
May 03, 2014 at 09:50 PM
p.19 #3Sony A7/A7R Setup
I will behave here and not employ *any* expletives.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. SONY makes such awesome sensors but their ergos and UIs really screw the pooch. It's like a hobbled Mamiya AFd interface, I swear.
Stuff that you want to do, you can't, stuff isn't where you expect it to be, stuff seems to be mis-labelled (this does that? Huh? I thought otherwise).
It's as if SONY played darts with the UI, both simultaneously winning and losing the lottery.
Somebody hack the damn thing with custom firmware, for the love of all that is good and holy.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. SONY makes such awesome sensors but their ergos and UIs really screw the pooch. It's like a hobbled Mamiya AFd interface, I swear.
Stuff that you want to do, you can't, stuff isn't where you expect it to be, stuff seems to be mis-labelled (this does that? Huh? I thought otherwise).
It's as if SONY played darts with the UI, both simultaneously winning and losing the lottery.
Somebody hack the damn thing with custom firmware, for the love of all that is good and holy.
May 04, 2014 at 12:14 AM
p.19 #4Sony A7/A7R Setup
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Aside from building a clean room to change the lenses or using just one lens, has anyone found a good way to limit this?Compared to 5DmkII I would say; yes A7 and A7r are dust magnets. However I haven't yet shoot summer, and humidity and other conditions are radically different, so this might not be my final verdict.
Good thing is that wet cleaning (Eclipse + Pec Pads) is really easy to perform compared to 5DmkII; the sensor is not on bottom of 44mm tight hole, but very easily accessible.
Samuli
Funny, my feelings are the exact opposite. It's a joy not having to clean the mirrorless (A7r) bodies as often as I had to clean my 5D II. Probably because there is no complex mirror mechanism 'hiding' the dust and preventing the dust from being blown of from the mirror chamber. Really makes a difference.
freaklikeme wrote
So is it just me or is the a7 sensor a dust magnet like no other? I haven't had to do a wet cleaning (and likely never would... if the LensRentals.com method doesn't work, off it'll go to a professional) but, cripes. I feel like changing a lens guarantees that I'll have to clean it.Aside from building a clean room to change the lenses or using just one lens, has anyone found a good way to limit this?
Good thing is that wet cleaning (Eclipse + Pec Pads) is really easy to perform compared to 5DmkII; the sensor is not on bottom of 44mm tight hole, but very easily accessible.
Samuli
Funny, my feelings are the exact opposite. It's a joy not having to clean the mirrorless (A7r) bodies as often as I had to clean my 5D II. Probably because there is no complex mirror mechanism 'hiding' the dust and preventing the dust from being blown of from the mirror chamber. Really makes a difference.
May 04, 2014 at 03:53 AM
p.19 #5Sony A7/A7R Setup
sirimiri wrote:
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. SONY makes such awesome sensors but their ergos and UIs really screw the pooch.
I agree that the interface could be improved, but the A7/r is very easy to customize and once I set it up to my liking I find it easy and straightforward to use.
Maybe I'm too easy to please or .....
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. SONY makes such awesome sensors but their ergos and UIs really screw the pooch.
I agree that the interface could be improved, but the A7/r is very easy to customize and once I set it up to my liking I find it easy and straightforward to use.
Maybe I'm too easy to please or .....
May 04, 2014 at 09:16 AM
p.19 #6Sony A7/A7R Setup
For the A7R, why is it that autobracketed shots don't require the shutter to cycle, but the first shot does require a blackout of the sensor?
What's the A7R's process for autobracketing, that differs from a single shot?
What's the A7R's process for autobracketing, that differs from a single shot?
May 05, 2014 at 03:00 PM
p.19 #7Sony A7/A7R Setup
samuli - you can use the camera remote to get raw. press the menu button on the camera while in remote mode. it won't transfer the raw to your phone, I don't think.
srimiri - I set my cam to Monitor only and it stays on longer if it's in photo display mode but turns off if it's in shooting mode. I had power save start time to 10 sec.
srimiri - I set my cam to Monitor only and it stays on longer if it's in photo display mode but turns off if it's in shooting mode. I had power save start time to 10 sec.
May 05, 2014 at 04:13 PM
p.19 #8Sony A7/A7R Setup
ken.vs.ryu wrote:
I set my cam to Monitor only and it stays on longer if it's in photo display mode but turns off if it's in shooting mode. I had power save start time to 10 sec.
Thanks for the tip. So, do you use the camera's viewfinder as well, or do you forgo it?
I set my cam to Monitor only and it stays on longer if it's in photo display mode but turns off if it's in shooting mode. I had power save start time to 10 sec.
Thanks for the tip. So, do you use the camera's viewfinder as well, or do you forgo it?
May 05, 2014 at 05:52 PM
p.19 #9Sony A7/A7R Setup
I believe I already know the answer, but is there any way to make the dial/wheel that controls shutter speed when in aperture priority (aka a dial/wheel serving no purpose) the ISO dial? I find the control wheel on the rear of the camera, which is the default method for changing the ISO, a bit fiddly.
May 07, 2014 at 01:36 PM
p.19 #10Sony A7/A7R Setup
I think you can only make it exposure comp. You don't like auto iso with the high/low limits?
srimiri - I go auto and monitor only when it's on a tripod which is rare.
srimiri - I go auto and monitor only when it's on a tripod which is rare.
May 07, 2014 at 02:02 PM
p.19 #11Sony A7/A7R Setup
ken.vs.ryu wrote:
I think you can only make it exposure comp. You don't like auto iso with the high/low limits?
Nah. I like shooting at ISO 100 unless I absolutely need a faster shutter speed. Below what shutter speed does Auto ISO kick in?
I think you can only make it exposure comp. You don't like auto iso with the high/low limits?
Nah. I like shooting at ISO 100 unless I absolutely need a faster shutter speed. Below what shutter speed does Auto ISO kick in?
May 07, 2014 at 02:56 PM
p.19 #12Sony A7/A7R Setup
a7r HDMI to projector
I am trying to connect a7r using HDMI to a projector. All works great other than I can not see anything on my LDC or through the view finder when the subject is being projected from the camera thru the projector. Is there a way to have the camera tethered to the projector by HDMI and still be able to use the live view or the view finder?
Thanks for any help that can be given.
Sandy
I am trying to connect a7r using HDMI to a projector. All works great other than I can not see anything on my LDC or through the view finder when the subject is being projected from the camera thru the projector. Is there a way to have the camera tethered to the projector by HDMI and still be able to use the live view or the view finder?
Thanks for any help that can be given.
Sandy
May 09, 2014 at 04:25 PM
p.19 #13Sony A7/A7R Setup
sirimiri wrote:
I set the "Power Save Start Time" but my A7R never goes to sleep. To often, I remove it from a bag and the batter is dead.
Even with the viewfinder turned off (monitor only, e.g. no proximity sensor) the camera stays on, and never sleeps.
Does anybody have any ideas as to what's keeping it "awake"? I'd rather snipe the option that has turned the camera into an insomniac, in lieu of re-registering all of the settings.
the same thing happened to me and then I read that someone solved it by resetting all settings.
I did the same and it worked for me.
I set the "Power Save Start Time" but my A7R never goes to sleep. To often, I remove it from a bag and the batter is dead.
Even with the viewfinder turned off (monitor only, e.g. no proximity sensor) the camera stays on, and never sleeps.
Does anybody have any ideas as to what's keeping it "awake"? I'd rather snipe the option that has turned the camera into an insomniac, in lieu of re-registering all of the settings.
the same thing happened to me and then I read that someone solved it by resetting all settings.
I did the same and it worked for me.
May 10, 2014 at 07:42 AM
p.19 #14Sony A7/A7R Setup
Thanks for the reply and answer. However, that just tells me that there is a way with one of the settings we just don't know which one it is. I think that is what I want to find out.
Thanks again your answer was very helpful.
Thanks again your answer was very helpful.
May 10, 2014 at 10:27 AM
p.19 #15Sony A7/A7R Setup
sirimiri wrote:
For the A7R, why is it that autobracketed shots don't require the shutter to cycle, but the first shot does require a blackout of the sensor?
Hmmm, are you sure? My A7r does close shutter before each exposure, also first. Test with long enough exposures, like 10s, so you can actually separate actions before exposure and after to see the shutter in operation.
sirimiri wrote:
What's the A7R's process for autobracketing, that differs from a single shot?
Continous bracketing mode process:
When using shutter button: if you hold button in continous autobracketing mode it takes all 3/5 images in a row.
When using IR remote: when you press shutter button camera automatically takes the shots
When using wired remote: same behaviour when using shutter button
Single bracketing mode process:
When using shutter button: you need to lift shutter button between exposures
When using IR remote: you need to press remote for each exposure
When using wired remote: same behaviour when using shutter button
Other differences in process are that when using long shutter speeds on continous bracketing the blackframe method is not used (=pictures are noisier, not good for example for HDR!!!). This is really sad because if Sony engineers would have had any brains they could have done black frame for all 3 exposures in one go, like done in some cameras (depends of course sensor's capabilities).
I don't think there is any difference between single shot and bracketing modes, what comes to EFCS.
With A7r or A7 I never use the continuous bracketing mode, due to shutter vibration (also A7 need to close shutter to read the sensor) and lack of black frame. With 5DmkII I used autobracketing and live view (automatically takes all exposures of autobracket series), since 5DmkII didn't have as bad shutter vibration (it also was needed to close to read sensor - it has EFCS like A7).
Samuli
For the A7R, why is it that autobracketed shots don't require the shutter to cycle, but the first shot does require a blackout of the sensor?
Hmmm, are you sure? My A7r does close shutter before each exposure, also first. Test with long enough exposures, like 10s, so you can actually separate actions before exposure and after to see the shutter in operation.
sirimiri wrote:
What's the A7R's process for autobracketing, that differs from a single shot?
Continous bracketing mode process:
When using shutter button: if you hold button in continous autobracketing mode it takes all 3/5 images in a row.
When using IR remote: when you press shutter button camera automatically takes the shots
When using wired remote: same behaviour when using shutter button
Single bracketing mode process:
When using shutter button: you need to lift shutter button between exposures
When using IR remote: you need to press remote for each exposure
When using wired remote: same behaviour when using shutter button
Other differences in process are that when using long shutter speeds on continous bracketing the blackframe method is not used (=pictures are noisier, not good for example for HDR!!!). This is really sad because if Sony engineers would have had any brains they could have done black frame for all 3 exposures in one go, like done in some cameras (depends of course sensor's capabilities).
I don't think there is any difference between single shot and bracketing modes, what comes to EFCS.
With A7r or A7 I never use the continuous bracketing mode, due to shutter vibration (also A7 need to close shutter to read the sensor) and lack of black frame. With 5DmkII I used autobracketing and live view (automatically takes all exposures of autobracket series), since 5DmkII didn't have as bad shutter vibration (it also was needed to close to read sensor - it has EFCS like A7).
Samuli
May 10, 2014 at 11:04 AM
p.19 #16Sony A7/A7R Setup
scorless wrote:
Thanks for the reply and answer. However, that just tells me that there is a way with one of the settings we just don't know which one it is. I think that is what I want to find out.
Thanks again your answer was very helpful.
I think it's just a bug, after the reset I just changed back all the settings to the way I wanted them to be, but the timer works.
Thanks for the reply and answer. However, that just tells me that there is a way with one of the settings we just don't know which one it is. I think that is what I want to find out.
Thanks again your answer was very helpful.
I think it's just a bug, after the reset I just changed back all the settings to the way I wanted them to be, but the timer works.
May 11, 2014 at 12:51 AM
p.19 #17Sony A7/A7R Setup
I did not use the metabones for Canon lens adapter for more than two weeks, and now it will not autofocus. So I have to do manual focus with magnification and peaking. is there a set up menu to force autofocus with metabones?
May 11, 2014 at 11:09 AM
p.19 #18Sony A7/A7R Setup
kpoz wrote:
Nah. I like shooting at ISO 100 unless I absolutely need a faster shutter speed. Below what shutter speed does Auto ISO kick in?
Auto ISO is sadly linked to the 1/focal length setting with no user control for minimum SS in Av mode. Kind of a bummer as I don't always find say 1/100th is fast enough for sharp handheld photos when shooting my 90mm Contax G, for example.
However, the pretty acceptable work around is that you can also use Auto ISO in M mode, along with working EC, so its really a cinch to just set the camera to M mode, set your min SS as needed, and go about shooting. Being able to still have EC control makes M mode with Auto ISO basically the same as using Av mode with a user set min shutter speed auto ISO on most other cameras
ken.vs.ryu wrote
I think you can only make it exposure comp. You don't like auto iso with the high/low limits?Auto ISO is sadly linked to the 1/focal length setting with no user control for minimum SS in Av mode. Kind of a bummer as I don't always find say 1/100th is fast enough for sharp handheld photos when shooting my 90mm Contax G, for example.
However, the pretty acceptable work around is that you can also use Auto ISO in M mode, along with working EC, so its really a cinch to just set the camera to M mode, set your min SS as needed, and go about shooting. Being able to still have EC control makes M mode with Auto ISO basically the same as using Av mode with a user set min shutter speed auto ISO on most other cameras
May 11, 2014 at 12:43 PM
p.19 #19Sony A7/A7R Setup
Metabones suggested I do advanced and green setup, advanced is manual focus with magnification and green is autofocus http://www.metabones.com/article/of/green-power-save-mode
May 11, 2014 at 09:49 PM
p.19 #20Sony A7/A7R Setup
sirimiri wrote:
For the A7R, why is it that autobracketed shots don't require the shutter to cycle, but the first shot does require a blackout of the sensor?
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Hmmm, are you sure? My A7r does close shutter before each exposure, also first. Test with long enough exposures, like 10s, so you can actually separate actions before exposure and after to see the shutter in operation.
Samuli
I'm pretty sure I can press the button once and get three shots from it, but the shutter only moves once. I'll have to check again.
Thanks for the other tips, I will have to try employing a few of them.
May 12, 2014 at 12:07 AM