I never said my inner Samuli was as good as THE Samuli!
Thanks for the thoughts. Good points and I see what you mean in those images. Seems to me it depends a bit on how far out of focus it is? Or maybe that’s just a function of where the background is more apparent / visible. Anyway, guess it’s not a lens for your style shooting but I’m still not giving it up!
Thanks again, and nice shots yourself.
Samuli Vahonen wrote: - f/2.5 is quite brave with this lens, boke has unpleasant fuzziness in some scenes (e.g. your 2nd and last). It goes away @ f/3.2, and sometimes even @ f/2.8 (very rare) and some scenes have some harshness remaining even at f/3.5 (also rare). This naturally limits the lens usage as DOF gets quite large @ f/3.2.
Mathieu18 wrote:
Good points and I see what you mean in those images. Seems to me it depends a bit on how far out of focus it is? Or maybe that’s just a function of where the background is more apparent / visible.
It's complex, it's function of:
- boke CoC size
- frequency of detail in boke
- distance
On close-ups it's mostly hidden because blurriness of boke (boke CoC size) exceeds the detail size (frequency of detail) -> boke may appear smooth also with problematic apertures.
Mathieu18 wrote:
Anyway, guess it’s not a lens for your style shooting but I’m still not giving it up!
I love the lens, thou I love little more it's older cousin ZM 2/35 It's a lens, which definitely has one of the best rendering styles ever Zeiss (or anyone else) was able to produce. I love to use it for subjects like this or this. At optimal apertures it produces one of the lowest boke contrasts I have ever seen from any lens, which produce high focus plane contrast. In addition to lovely boke lens produces very good focus plane.
Biggest issue for me is the focal length, for some odd reason I don't like 35mm focal length; not wide enough to have "wide look", but at same time so short focal length that it's abilities on subject separation is much worse than 50mm lenses. Still I'm pretty sure when my Kolari modified cameras stop working I will sell ZM 2/35 and buy the Loxia 35. Very nice lens for lightweight hiking needs (combines nicely with 85mm or 90mm lens, but causes always head scratching what wide to combine with it and if having just 35mm & 85/90mm, then I tend to miss normal lens).
Over the years Loxia 35 has been most disappointing for people, whom don't understand what they are buying. This is not good lens for person who wants to shoot 35mm @ f/2. I guess it really wasn't surprise to people whom have used Zeiss lenses earlier (C/Y, ZE/ZF Classic, G & ZM), but suddenly when similar lens is created to Sony FE-mount people were crying infinite amount in forums, because this lens sucks wide open. After the initial aperture series I shoot while testing the lens, I don't think I have ever used the f/2 aperture.
I'm running out of online samples for ZM 2/35, just few f/5.6 shots remaining, zero relevancy to discussion.
Carl Zeiss Biogon T* 2/35 ZM @ f/5.6, 1/8s, Sony A7 (Kolari v2) @ ISO 125, OptoSigma SLB-50-3000PM + B+W 58 KSM C-POL MRC
Carl Zeiss Biogon T* 2/35 ZM @ f/5.6, 1/13s, Sony A7 (Kolari v2) @ ISO 125, OptoSigma SLB-50-3000PM + B+W 58 KSM C-POL MRC
Carl Zeiss Biogon T* 2/35 ZM @ f/5.6, 1/8s, Sony A7 (Kolari v2) @ ISO 125, OptoSigma SLB-50-3000PM + B+W 58 KSM C-POL MRC
rji2goleez wrote:
For a little self promotion - I recently signed to be a guest artist in a gallery in Northeast Minneapolis. I've installed a few images with more coming this week. This area of Minneapolis is filled with studios and galleries in old warehouse buildings. The artists span every possible medium. It's been too many years since I've exhibited so it's good to get back into the gallery scene.
For those who are local to the Twin Cities, my images will be in the Inside & Out Gallery in the Northrup King Building (Studio 132). Showings start this Thursday from 5-9 and Saturdays from 12-4 (and of course, by appointment).
I want to thank all my fellow photogs in this forum. You have all inspired and supported me in some way. This forum is the best when it comes to support, friendship and the most amazing photography on the web.
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Bob, congrats on the gallery! Fantastic set of images.
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I call this street shot "The Milk Man". If you look closely, my subject is holding a bottle of milk. The gesture here (looking to the side and perhaps back at me) was what caught my eye when I took the shot.