Jason_Brook wrote:
Ignore the copy nonsense. I don't think people know how to focus
Hi Jason, i did the test again as you advised, and here is the result (Shooting with NEUTRAL Picture Control, No sharpness and color fringing adjustment in Lightroom, Closest distance to the camera)
+ AFFT OFF
+ AFFT ON (+15)
+AFFT ON (+20)
Seeing with the sharpness and also the color fringing, the lens should focus correctly at the AFFT Value among +15 to +20, am i right?
Here are additional shots, from a little further distance
+ AFFT OFF
+AFFT ON (+20)
I did additional test shots and compare with the Nikon 35F2 D, the sharpness is pretty the same when shooting subjects which are about more than 1 meter away, when shooting close up, the 50 1.4G does suffer from softness (the 35F2D is sharper significantly)
My conclusion:
1. About AFFT, this monster need to be adjusted with the value of +15 to + 20 on my camera to get correct focus.
2. About Sharpness, my lens is just a normal 58 1.4G lens, with its inborn characters: It is soft when shooting close up, and a bit soft with shooting at normal distance, compare with other "golden ring" lens.
3. Color Fingering is noticeable in almost every shot wide open, is it normal with this lens? What i thought of a Nano coating lens in dealing with CAs and Flare was totally different
Thanks again Jason and others for taking time looking my post, and please correct me with my conclusion.
yes, somewhere between 15 and 20...try them all to see which is perfect. and take a shot with live view to compare since live view should give you the sharpest picture possible.
This lens is fine when shot at 1.4. Looking at 100% zooms is sort of pointless to me since the real life pictures this lens makes are beautiful.
But stop the lens down a bit and it's REALLY sharp.
chuhsi1 wrote:
Nano never removes CA from my pictures
yes, somewhere between 15 and 20...try them all to see which is perfect. and take a shot with live view to compare since live view should give you the sharpest picture possible.
This lens is fine when shot at 1.4. Looking at 100% zooms is sort of pointless to me since the real life pictures this lens makes are beautiful.
But stop the lens down a bit and it's REALLY sharp.
Nano usually does a pretty good job of reducing CA. Could you imagine how bad the 58's CA would be without it?!
Chester, everything's looking good. Definitely do a few shots using liveview zoomed in all the way so you can see the level of sharpness you're trying to achieve with AFFT.
low325 wrote:
If you're looking to see this lens perform at 100% zoom, you're doing it wrong.
low325, you are right, this lens has some slight haze at 100% zoom, its not that sharp but good enough, mine has +3 AF adjustment, but I post process all my work so I do the sharpening on my own. If you look closely slight haze, on her eye, but this is the 'character' of the lens and this is what people buy it for, for its own unique look.
By the way I need to try your AF tune method jason. I have mine set to +18 but I didn't do true testing. I just messed around and at +18 I was getting consistent results. I haven't used it enough at that setting yet to know if I really got it locked in yet.
I'm having problems getting sharp images close by. From 3m and longer it's pretty sharp, but below I get only 10% keepers.
With life-view it's sharp all the time.
With my 85/1.4 I don't have this.
What I'm I doing wrong
Chris Dees wrote:
I'm having problems getting sharp images close by. From 3m and longer it's pretty sharp, but below I get only 10% keepers.
With life-view it's sharp all the time.
With my 85/1.4 I don't have this.
What I'm I doing wrong
You gotta tune it. Your DOF is paper thin up close.
M635_Guy wrote:
I don't understand why you say that. Why can't the lens be sharp and render beautifully?
At what cost? There is no other lens in the current nikon production that renders like this one. This lens also gives that nice medium format rendition.
low325 wrote:
This lens also gives that nice medium format rendition.
That's what I've been saying all this time I owned a 58G.
It annoys the HECK out of me when people pixel peep so much, whine about sharpness, blah blah yada yada yada... Just... Go out and SHOOT!! Lens too soft for YOUR liking? Sell the damn thing and buy the 85mm f/1.4G!
Elijah wrote:
That's what I've been saying all this time I owned a 58G.
It annoys the HECK out of me when people pixel peep so much, whine about sharpness, blah blah yada yada yada... Just... Go out and SHOOT!! Lens too soft for YOUR liking? Sell the damn thing and buy the 85mm f/1.4G!
Technique question for everyone - how do you focus and recompose when shooting wide open? I always move my focus point to my focus target, but figure I should learn a new technique to shoot faster and potentially more accurately with my DF. Thanks!
chuhsi1 wrote:
Technique question for everyone - how do you focus and recompose when shooting wide open? I always move my focus point to my focus target, but figure I should learn a new technique to shoot faster and potentially more accurately with my DF. Thanks!
Set your AF to continuous AF mode. Then go to menu and select for "AF-ON button only" for focusing (forgot the exact words, I don't have the camera on me) and just use the AF-ON button to focus, take your thumb off the AF-ON button, recompose & shoot.
I've been using this method for years now and that's the way I shoot 98% of the time, especially at weddings.
Elijah wrote:
Set your AF to continuous AF mode. Then go to menu and select for "AF-ON button only" for focusing (forgot the exact words, I don't have the camera on me) and just use the AF-ON button to focus, take your thumb off the AF-ON button, recompose & shoot.
I've been using this method for years now and that's the way I shoot 98% of the time, especially at weddings.
This method works surprisingly well just about any camera even on your Df chuhsi. The center point on your Df is solid. But if you're really close to your subject this might not be ideal with thin dof. So if you can lock the outer points and be really good at recomposing then you're golden. But first thing first you have to get that afft so your green dot is pretty solid and not nervously hunting.
The D750 will be here tomorrow!
