Thank you. Maybe one day I might get this lens again. The one I got from Nikon refurbished was such a random stress dud from my experience with it. Might just go just straight used and dodge refurbished. phinix wrote:
Wow! What an amazing photo, last one!
phinix wrote:
Is Capture One easier to use than Lightroom?
Also is it easier to learn how to use it?
I only tried Lightroom and dont like it somehow...
I never used Lightroom so I can not really compare them. I just liked CO and have not looked elsewhere.
gear-nut wrote:
The lens was gorgeous on F bodies when it nailed focus -- which was unfortunately rare. On Z bodies with the FTZ, it's a whole new animal and probably my favorite lens of all time, though the 105/1.4 isn't far behind...
I would love to try this lens on my Zf, trying to hunt one down.
Every time I read people opinions, its hard to decide if I should buy it or not. But then many people say same thing what you just said - on Z body with FTZ this lens is a LOT better, focuses great, renders beautifully as always.
Is it worth to have this lens on Z?
I understand that it doesn't need any focus tweaking what people mention on F bodies (I dont know what this means), focus wise - it works fine, doesn't miss focus like on F?
phinix wrote:
I would love to try this lens on my Zf, trying to hunt one down.
Every time I read people opinions, its hard to decide if I should buy it or not. But then many people say same thing what you just said - on Z body with FTZ this lens is a LOT better, focuses great, renders beautifully as always.
Is it worth to have this lens on Z?
I understand that it doesn't need any focus tweaking what people mention on F bodies (I dont know what this means), focus wise - it works fine, doesn't miss focus like on F?
I wish I could find an unhappy reflex 58G shooter who wants to get rid of it and buy a second one, it might seem that on a reflex it won't work or won't work well, matter of fact is just that on a Z it works even better but, personally, never had an issue even on reflex bodies from 2009 old ones to recent production ones and I can't wait to use it on an AF film body!
I have almost sold the 58G on at least three times but find my selves loving the images I have captured with it so much that I can’t pull the trigger… the lens can produce magic but magic is sometimes hard to come by. What is nice, however, is that stopped down to F2 you can get reliable images that are sharp enough and consistently produce great results; so if you can’t risk taking a chance that your image might be merely good, not great, in the hopes it will be magical, then shoot at F2 and above… but if you want magic then the possibility for it, with the 58G, exists.
phinix wrote:
I would love to try this lens on my Zf, trying to hunt one down.
Every time I read people opinions, its hard to decide if I should buy it or not. But then many people say same thing what you just said - on Z body with FTZ this lens is a LOT better, focuses great, renders beautifully as always.
Is it worth to have this lens on Z?
I understand that it doesn't need any focus tweaking what people mention on F bodies (I dont know what this means), focus wise - it works fine, doesn't miss focus like on F?
My experience aligns with gear-nut. With DSLR, with D700,focusing issue was less noticeable for its lower 12mp sensor. With D810, frutsration began. Focus was erratic to say the least especially when subjects are a bit further away. Head shots may be better, but with full body shots ( for human subjects) it was really hit and miss. Adding to the frustration is that due to the nature of the lens, when you do focus adjustment in D810, the adjustment is only valid for the particular distance you choose. If you adjust to about 5m distance, it won't apply to closer distance, and vice versa, and there is focus shift depending on the aperture. It is like chasing a mirage. In my case, Z6 focusing addressed all these issues as the camera uses the actual image to focus and aperture up to 5.6. Overall outcome with mirrorless with 58G surpass that with DSLR in my experience.
The same experience for me. I changed 58/1.4 twice in my DSLR era. And now it’s shining like a brilliant with Z6. Nailing the focus with hi-res DSLR was like a lottery winning because of sombrero shaped focal plane and aberrations for 1.4.
I think a lot of the dissatisfaction comes from people insisting on using it wide open at mfd. Hitting focus is really quite hard, and the lens is not at its sharpest shooting close. Increase the distance for wide open shots and stop down slightly when shooting closer subjects and you will have that magic rendering. And as others have stated - mirrorless really changes the game with this lens.
I have gone so far as to set all 3 of my Custom setups on my 77II to 2.5 aperture as I believe that is the sweet spot of this lens, creating the best balance of sharp and bokeh. It is just magnificent at that aperture. Biggest mistake with this lens is getting too greedy........
+1
I always use a 6 foot rule for stopping it down. Anything inside of 6 feet and I go to at least f2.
GoroMajima wrote:
Well sweetspot depends on distance mainly imo... to subject, subject to background etc.
For environmental fullbody portraits 1.4 over 2.5 anyday
I am not posting often anymore, but I still love this lens.