I see some beautiful shots in this thread with this lens and the Z6. I'm thinking about getting this lens but it'll be paired with a Z7 instead. Anyone have any experience with this combo and how they pair with one another? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
toupac wrote:
I see some beautiful shots in this thread with this lens and the Z6. I'm thinking about getting this lens but it'll be paired with a Z7 instead. Anyone have any experience with this combo and how they pair with one another? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
The Neo-Noct has taken pride of place as the 'standard' lens on my Z7. As many often say, it is Two primes in One. The 3-d rendering supremo described by it's designer (Haruo Sato) but when shut down under f4, it gives an impressively sharp optic with beautiful rendering.
As you say, the images here and worldwide speak for themselves :-) And you have probably seen the links above, on page 62, including posts #8 and #13 and following with links about bokeh etc
chambeshi wrote:
The Neo-Noct has taken pride of place as the 'standard' lens on my Z7. As many often say, it is Two primes in One. The 3-d rendering supremo described by it's designer (Haruo Sato) but when shut down under f4, it gives an impressively sharp optic with beautiful rendering.
As you say, the images here and worldwide speak for themselves :-) And you have probably seen the links above, on page 62, including posts #8 and #13 and following with links about bokeh etc
Thanks. I wasn't sure if the image quality that the 58mm f1.4 creates with a high MP camera body like the Z7 and D850 was still up to par.
toupac wrote:
Thanks. I wasn't sure if the image quality that the 58mm f1.4 creates with a high MP camera body like the Z7 and D850 was still up to par.
If the sharpness as per MTF charts is the only criteria then the 50/1.4 Art or 50/1.8S is a better choice. But the 58G is a lens you fall in love with as it is very unique with many differing personalities. As mentioned the 58G stopped down is sharp and for my last 2 trips to Spain I kept it on my D850/D810 stopped down around f/5.6-7.1 for all my street shots. The 58G at these f stops presents images more like paintings and just a great alternative to the very sharp new lenses.
Which lens came next to the 58mm with some other FL and comparable bokeh?
I have read about the 35mm f1.4 that it is from the same designer. And I have looked to the image thread of the 105mm f/1.4E.
Originally I wanted to supplement it to my 105mm Macro, but the images seem to be much more sterile and not dreamy. Background lights seem very sharp and harsh with cat-eye shape. The background seems to end up in a mud. It seems not to create a interesting new image out of the unsharp parts, but just to dim the existing.
There are also different opinions about the 105mmDC and the 135mmDC lenses...
Which lens came next to the 58mm with some other FL and comparable bokeh?
I have read about the 35mm f1.4 that it is from the same designer. And I have looked to the image thread of the 105mm f/1.4E.
Originally I wanted to supplement it to my 105mm Macro, but the images seem to be much more sterile and not dreamy. Background lights seem very sharp and harsh with cat-eye shape. The background seems to end up in a mud. It seems not to create a interesting new image out of the unsharp parts, but just to dim the existing.
There are also different opinions about the 105mmDC and the 135mmDC lenses...
The DC lenses preceded the 35 f1.4G, which was followed soon after by the Neo-Noct. The 105 f1.4E is a flagship in the venerable heritage of 105 Nikkors. It was put out for the 100th Centenary but couldn't be done in a 100 FL as 105mm held the premier position in Nikon's tradition (I remain most fond of my 105 f2.5AIS on the Z7). Haruo Sato has not shied away from describing the aims behind the designs.
I would also rank the 85 f1.4AFD very highly - aka the Cream-Machine - this is a stunning opic, although some may prefer the 85 f1.4G that "replaced" it.
IMHO the R&D path since the Defocus primes (if not earlier) has been to optimize acuity with 3D rendering. The 105 f1.4 testifies to optimal success in this objective. This combo of acuity and 3D aimed primarily at portrait genres but all these Nikkors also revel in imaging a great wealth of other subjects :-) As we know all too well!
There are the links above wrt the origins of the Neo-Noct, and here's the useful context I've read about the 105 f1.4E :-
http://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/0059/index.htm
“Nikon has recently released the new AF-S NIKKOR 105mm f/1.4E ED, a 105mm lens that inherits the concept and ideas behind the traditional AI Nikkor 105mm f/1.8S while supporting the latest technical advances. This lens was developed with the same design concept as the AF-S NIKKOR 58mm f/1.4G in mind. That is, “improved three-dimensional rendering characteristics”. While images captured with the AF-S NIKKOR 105mm f/1.4E ED are just a little sharper than those captured with the 58mm f/1.4G, overall image characteristics are the same. I sincerely hope that you will try this latest offering from Nikon.”
http://foto-info.si/review-of-nikon-af-s-105mm-f1-4e-ed-and-comparison-with-nikon-af-s-85mm-f1-4g/
According to the cost of the lens, we would expect an excellent lens, and this also is the case, despite the fact that it is made in China. Nikon AF-S 85mm f/1.4G is considered one of the best portrait lenses, that can be bought. From now on Nikon AF-S 105mm f/1.4E ED, will take over this role, it has a sharper image, gives better contrast has fewer CA, practically no optical image distortion and provides excellent bokeh. However, I believe that many photographers who have an 85mm portrait lens are more likely to remain with the 85mm lens. Focal length 105mm really shines when we have some more space around, namely, the difference is not large but it can be crucial with shooting indoors, where 85 mm in some cases would be more appropriate. Also, the sheer weight of the 105mm will not be suitable for some photographers, and finally it is a very expensive lens.
chambeshi wrote:
The DC lenses preceded the 35 f1.4G, which was followed soon after by the Neo-Noct. The 105 f1.4E is a flagship in the venerable heritage of 105 Nikkors. It was put out for the 100th Centenary but couldn't be done in a 100 FL as 105mm held the premier position in Nikon's tradition (I remain most fond of my 105 f2.5AIS on the Z7). Haruo Sato has not shied away from describing the aims behind the designs.
Thank you for your thoughts!
@all
Do you think the 58mm would perform better on a FX or D850 then on a D500?
Actually the 58mm is supposed to perform really well on the d500 or crop cameras in general.
Perhaps this very special thing about it, being a 58mm , is just missing.
Apart from that it will be a really good short portrait tele in this case!
