p.72 #4 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Toronto John wrote:
Sold my 1DX a couple weeks ago at FM. I was going to get a 5DMK3 (since I mostly shoot landscapes) but got the Sony A7 with the kit lens this weekend. I am really impressed. So far I am missing the easy way of selecting focus points on my Canons but the continious autofocus may make up for that. I wish Canon came up with a similar sized FF very soon since would be very nice to use Canon glass in these dimensions... Good job Sony. But one thing if I must be a bit negative. 5.2 hours to charge the effin battery via USB and tcheaping out on a $15 charger?? Really Sony, are you this cheap??...Show more →
Over on dpreview there a review of the A7r with initial impressions from one of the dpreview staff. In the review they mention a work around for getting to the focus points quicker ... might be worth reading.
p.72 #8 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
alundeb wrote:
Not everybody needs the charger. I already have 2 of them for my NEX cameras. Including a charger would have made the kit more expensive.
As you know not everyone owns an NEX. It would have been gracious of Sony to include one - they aren't expensive pieces of kit at the cost of production.
p.72 #9 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
alundeb wrote:
Not everybody needs the charger. I already have 2 of them for my NEX cameras. Including a charger would have made the kit more expensive.
Is that a joke? Sony's cost to physically produce a charger are incredibly negligible compared to the price of manufacturing these cameras. They don't even have to do a single bit of R&D at this point, since it is unchanged from any of the NEX series batteries - which, in an entirely different debate - are apparently underwhelming in many aspects. The A7(r) is supposed to be a conquest camera for Sony so it blows my mind why they would assume that the hordes of Canikon users that may consider picking up this system would already have a charger. Price points tend to be fairly hard so I imagine this is due to some db on the board wanting more money rather than doing the right thing for the consumer... which is something Sony has a long track record of not giving a flying fruit loop about. It isn't a show stopper for me or anything but it does piss me off more than a little.
p.72 #11 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
KKFung wrote:
I took some family shots yestrday, I had the A7r+VM35/1.2 and 1Dx+24-70II at the same time, I took the same shot with the same setting, both are great 1Dx win the speed, A7r win the size, both have the same PQ in my mind.
p.72 #13 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
alundeb wrote:
Not everybody needs the charger. I already have 2 of them for my NEX cameras. Including a charger would have made the kit more expensive.
To be a bit fair Probably more than 99% don't own a charger. So it would be very strange to not care about all those people.
p.72 #14 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
kezeka wrote:
Is that a joke? Sony's cost to physically produce a charger are incredibly negligible compared to the price of manufacturing these cameras. They don't even have to do a single bit of R&D at this point, since it is unchanged from any of the NEX series batteries - which, in an entirely different debate - are apparently underwhelming in many aspects. The A7(r) is supposed to be a conquest camera for Sony so it blows my mind why they would assume that the hordes of Canikon users that may consider picking up this system would already have a charger. Price points tend to be fairly hard so I imagine this is due to some db on the board wanting more money rather than doing the right thing for the consumer... which is something Sony has a long track record of not giving a flying fruit loop about. It isn't a show stopper for me or anything but it does piss me off more than a little.
p.72 #16 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
thw2 wrote:
Ha, ha, that crossed my mind. And plastic lens hoods are even cheaper than battery chargers!
Sorta the same idea except Canon includes a hood on the more expensive lenses. Sony is offering a high end body with missing accessories. A charger is more essential to most people than a plastic hood.
p.72 #17 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
jctriguy wrote:
Sorta the same idea except Canon includes a hood on the more expensive lenses. Sony is offering a high end body with missing accessories. A charger is more essential to most people than a plastic hood.
Yeh...but it is still very cheap on Canon's part not to include a 50 cent hood...which by the way they charge upwards of $25 for. Talk about gouging...
p.72 #19 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
alundeb wrote:
Not everybody needs the charger. I already have 2 of them for my NEX cameras. Including a charger would have made the kit more expensive.
Ummm, this is the Canon forum/thread for people that presumably have Canon cameras and lenses which they might wish to use on the new Sony A7 series. Maybe most of us won't have Sony chargers - will we?
Given the preponderance of Nikon and Canon cameras, as many as 98 percent of the potential new users of the A7 series likely won't have Sony cameras - and if the only buyers are existing Sony owners with Sony chargers, their market is greatly reduced.
p.72 #20 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
chez wrote:
Yeh...but it is still very cheap on Canon's part not to include a 50 cent hood...which by the way they charge upwards of $25 for. Talk about gouging...
That is true. My 17-55 cost as much as my 24-105. No hood on the 17/55. I was pissed. Fortunately the 24-105 hoods works.
couple spare batteries will do for now until canon back in one shape 
