p.121 #1 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
StillFingerz wrote:
With a large collection of FD glass I'm still thinking on either the A7 or A7R but have hesitated given the adapter/light issues, have the issues been fixed and if so what adapter is best
My FD glass ranges from 20mm to 500, with a full compliment of macro gear including ring flash and bellows that would be used most...I'm looking to rent from LensRentals before any purchase and want to make sure I give this testing a best effort!
Thanks,
Jerry
If you are going through the trouble of adapting your EF and FD lenses, I would go with the A7R.
It looks like the new Metabones Mark IV corrected the internal reflection issues but get ready to spend $400. Otherwise find an used Mark III version and flock it.
Keep in mind that the A7R route is only useful as manual focus camera. It won't be an "AF" camera when adapting your Canon gear. To be fair, AF will work but it will only frustrate you.
Fred
p.121 #2 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
For FD glass I made excellent experience with the Fotasy FD/E-mount adapter. I am using it with a bunch of FD-based lenses and all work fine with it.
In regard to EF glass fully agree what Fred stated above. I am using still the Mark III Metabones adapter and so far had no reflection issues observed (but others have described the issue).
p.121 #3 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Fred Miranda wrote:
If you are going through the trouble of adapting your EF and FD lenses, I would go with the A7R.
It looks like the new Metabones Mark IV corrected the internal reflection issues but get ready to spend $400. Otherwise find an used Mark III version and flock it.
Keep in mind that the A7R route is only useful as manual focus camera. It won't be an "AF" camera when adapting your Canon gear. To be fair, AF will work but it will only frustrate you.
Fred
Fred, thank you, seems I just need to ponder getting serious about IQ or just play a bit with an EOS M or M4/3, as for AF I rarely use it with anything below 100mm
p.121 #4 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Couldn't agree more with Fred. Go for A7R ! And focusing with Live-View is a real pleasure. For tripod work, it's just the best Canon glass can get actually.
p.121 #6 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
StillFingerz wrote:
Fred, thank you, seems I just need to ponder getting serious about IQ or just play a bit with an EOS M or M4/3, as for AF I rarely use it with anything below 100mm
FD lenses +A7r is considerably better than what the EOS-m can produce. I have a bunch of adapters, haven't ran into any light leak issues yet.
Fotasy adapters are nicest looking and seem well made. Just add loctite to the screw that locks aperture, tends to get loose. My FD collection is getting really big, love these lenses.
p.121 #7 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Charlie N wrote:
FD lenses +A7r is considerably better than what the EOS-m can produce. I have a bunch of adapters, haven't ran into any light leak issues yet.
Fotasy adapters are nicest looking and seem well made. Just add loctite to the screw that locks aperture, tends to get loose. My FD collection is getting really big, love these lenses.
Hi Charlie,
I to still enjoy my old kit, and I get the IQ part, it's 'my' seriousness about actually imaging with the old glass, my aging and physical issues that manifest each day, thus the cost of entry is key for my wantings. I've experimented; quite successfully, with fd-to-ef mounts on DSLRs and enjoyed seeing the old glass shine.
Once the majority of the 'bugs' were managed; which seems the case, then it's deciding to keep or sell my old gear. It's all in 'pristine' condition, a consequence of my paralysis and only shooting in very 'controlled' conditions. Everything works, nothing sticks, has oil or yellowing elements, nor 'any' glass nicks/scratches.
It's the stopping down that's my biggest PITA as my fingers really are 'still'; paralyzed, like much of me. Where the A7R fits for me is in still life imaging; controlled studio work and how much time I devote to being inside vs. outside in our beautiful Southern California sunshine.
That 'darn' word 'easier' isn't trivial anymore, after 35yrs plus of serious imaging; mostly with MF glass, I'm finding AF and IS to be incredible bonuses. I'm a youngster with 'digital', having only started in late 2007, as for film the year 1967 comes to mind. It's tough giving in, giving up even a tiny bit of independence, yet with budget/time not in abundance it may be the moment to 'move on' and let others enjoy the older jewels Canon gave us.
All here at FM have helped greatly, their collective experiences; ups/downs; encouragements, have paved the way for a decision which will occur in 2015 when I've much more time to actually shoot
p.121 #8 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Have been using the A7R now for just under 12 months, and I've written an update to my initial review. It is predominantly paired now with the Canon 24mm TSE f3.5L II and a rear shift adaptor, although I still like to use it at times with the Zeiss 15mm for that wider perspective.
p.121 #9 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Alvin,
Could you comment more about the Zoerk shift adapter + ts-e lens?
In particular
what you are using it for compared to without it.
contrasting it with mounting at the metabones adapter.
any situations where you are seeing any vibration degradations with wide angle lenses? the body is suspended even more from the mount.
p.121 #10 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Hi David, I don't use the mount on the metabones adaptor due to the lack of clearance with the battery grip. I use the Zoerk for shift panoramas both horizontally and vertically. For single images I haven't seen any difference between using the camera body L-plate or the mount on the adaptor. Early on I tested the A7R for shutter vibration with the grip and L-plate attached, and was never able to reproduce it. I even tested it on a lens mounted 400 f2.8IS with extender in my initial review last year and wasn't able to reproduce it. I suspect the grip and plate dampen the vibrations.
p.121 #11 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Thanks Alvin,
Other than using the Zoerk adapter for clearance with the grip, why would one use the Zoerk if they had an A7 without the grip?
In other words, if I am using a metabones adapter without the sony grip, why would I want the use Zoerk?
Just trying to understand what some of this stuff does.
p.121 #12 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
The Zoerk is lens mounted which allows the camera to move with a TSE lens, to do shift panoramas without parallax errors. Thus the lens is fixed. A metabones tripod mount does not allow this - the lens must move with shift panoramas, which may result in parallax errors particularly of closer subject material.
p.121 #18 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
I think Fred talked about this a while back, but here is a new EF-E adapter from Novoflex. Stop dreaming now, manual lenses only !
http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/adapters/adapter-finder/ (scroll down the page)
Like all other NOVOFLEX-adapters this is a totally mechanical version. With original Canon EF-lenses aperture control is impossible.
This adapter is designed for EF mount lenses that utilize their own aperture control ring such as Canon EF Cine-Objektive, Zeiss Compact Prime-Objektive, Samyang, etc.
p.121 #20 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Thanks for the heads up.
A while back I contacted their PR rep, Michael Hiesinger, and he told me Novoflex was working on a EF-E adapter with full electronic control. I guess they were not able to pull it off...It is pretty useless, I agree.
