p.85 #1 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Regarding the f/4 wide-angle zoom on the horizon, the fact that the SEL1018 nearly covers full-frame at 11mm and up makes me think they could probably scale that lens up just slightly and create a really very nice UWA f/4 OSS zoom. Maybe 12mm to 24mm?
p.85 #3 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
turnstyle wrote:
Been trying to gauge whether 50 Lux ASPH is well-suited to A7r.
This is driving me nuts.
As soon as I get mine, I'll let you know. My personal opinion is that we have nothing ot worry about. Steve Huff posted that it is a joy, and it is not as if problems of this nature were hard to see. Multiple pictures indicate that all is well. Posters talking about problems make claims that I can't reconcile, such sa "a magenta cast across the whole frame, as on NEX7". Well, I have a 'Lux 50 and a NEX7, and could not generate such a cast. So much for getting worked up. Just because someone says it is so on the Internet doesn't make it so.
Also remember, if the system does work, it is still easy to get bad pics, either with a bad adapter, bad lens or bad technique. But if the system doesn't work, getting good pics out of it is very, very difficult...
p.85 #5 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
I got mine today, went with the A7K(kit), first shop i walked into in Namdaemun.
Initial impressions-
1) This thing is more configurable than any camera I've ever had.
2) A few things I still need to figure out.
3) I like it! haha
I was walking around Seoul today, shooting with the kit lens, 50/1.4 (Canon LTM), 100/3.5 (Canon LTM), and 17/4 (Canon FD).
Uploading pictures to Google+ right now.
p.85 #6 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
philber wrote:
As soon as I get mine, I'll let you know. My personal opinion is that we have nothing ot worry about. Steve Huff posted that it is a joy, and it is not as if problems of this nature were hard to see. Multiple pictures indicate that all is well. Posters talking about problems make claims that I can't reconcile, such sa "a magenta cast across the whole frame, as on NEX7". Well, I have a 'Lux 50 and a NEX7, and could not generate such a cast. So much for getting worked up. Just because someone says it is so on the Internet doesn't make it so.
Also remember, if the system does work, it is still easy to get bad pics, either with a bad adapter, bad lens or bad technique. But if the system doesn't work, getting good pics out of it is very, very difficult... ...Show more →
I look forward to your results! Two quick comments...
1) I do think Huff -- who I enjoy reading -- is pretty much a cheerleader for everything he posts about. imho, his formula is "95% it's awesome!!!" with "5% caveats" -- again, I enjoy him, but I generally expect him to gush about everything he reviews.
2) I think the "magenta cast across the whole frame" is a characteristic of the lens wide open -- I briefly had the Lux on an NEX7, and when I tried shooting some lovely brick walls at various apertures, I consistently got a very different Auto WB at f/1.4. So I agree that something does happen at f/1.4, but I think it's the lens.
I keep flip-flopping between FE 55 and Lux 50: the FE 55 looks to be a great performer -- FLIP-FLOP -- but I'd prefer manual focus -- FLIP-FLOP -- but the FE 55 would give me the option to use autofocus -- FLIP-FLOP -- but I'd prefer f/1.4 to f/1.8 -- FLIP-FLOP -- save your money you fool! -- FLIP-FLOP -- but the Lux OOF really is very appealing -- FLIP-FLOP, etc.
p.85 #8 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
I think you will find that the LA-EA1 is dedicated to NEX E-mount and will therefore vignette on the a7. The LA-EA3, however, should be fin on a NEX. That is my understanding although I am not yet able to test this in practice.
Scott - check out the ZM C-Sonnar 50/1.5. Jewel of a lens - no magenta banding in my experience - but needs stopping down if you want across the frame sharpness, but that's not really the point of it.
p.85 #9 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
waterden wrote:
I think you will find that the LA-EA1 is dedicated to NEX E-mount and will therefore vignette on the a7. The LA-EA3, however, should be fin on a NEX. That is my understanding although I am not yet able to test this in practice.
just tested the LA-EA1, it causes severe rectangular vignetting.
p.85 #12 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
waterden wrote:
Scott - check out the ZM C-Sonnar 50/1.5. Jewel of a lens - no magenta banding in my experience - but needs stopping down if you want across the frame sharpness, but that's not really the point of it.
Thanks for the suggestion! From what I've seen, the advantages of the Lux vs. the Sonnar come down to: better sharpness wide, smoother oof, and negligible focus shift (which will only factor in if I ever try a Leica body). The obvious advantage to the Sonnar is cost.
I thought this was an interesting new test set, comparing the Lux 50 ASPH on A7r vs. M240:
Previous comparisons of the Lux 50 on A7 or A7r vs. M240 or M9 have left me thinking the Leica bodies outperformed -- but the comparison above leaves me feeling more hopeful -- yes?
OTOH, the earlier tests were of distant subject, whereas this one is with the subject at 2 meters -- so, perhaps there is still some figuring to do.
Does it make sense that the A7/A7r would match the M240/M9 with the Lux 50 for near subjects, but fall behind for distant subjects?
p.85 #13 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Could be. When you focus near, the lens moves away from the body, and the rays are more perpendicular, i.e. the angle of impingement is less dramatic...
p.85 #14 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Yesssss, I got my hands on an a7 at the local photo fair today! One strange thing is that I can't see any signs of the weather sealing. No gaskets, nothing. And you can't access the menues during charging. Oh well.
p.85 #15 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Makten wrote:
Yesssss, I got my hands on an a7 at the local photo fair today! One strange thing is that I can't see any signs of the weather sealing. No gaskets, nothing. And you can't access the menues during charging. Oh well.
One of the advantages of also purchasing one of the AC chargers for the camera. I have one ordered to come with my A7r. That way I could also charge 2 batteries at once. One in the camera and one in the separate AC charger.
turnstyle wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion! From what I've seen, the advantages of the Lux vs. the Sonnar come down to: better sharpness wide, smoother oof, and negligible focus shift (which will only factor in if I ever try a Leica body). The obvious advantage to the Sonnar is cost.
I thought this was an interesting new test set, comparing the Lux 50 ASPH on A7r vs. M240:
Previous comparisons of the Lux 50 on A7 or A7r vs. M240 or M9 have left me thinking the Leica bodies outperformed -- but the comparison above leaves me feeling more hopeful -- yes?
OTOH, the earlier tests were of distant subject, whereas this one is with the subject at 2 meters -- so, perhaps there is still some figuring to do.
Does it make sense that the A7/A7r would match the M240/M9 with the Lux 50 for near subjects, but fall behind for distant subjects?
p.85 #16 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Makten wrote:
Yesssss, I got my hands on an a7 at the local photo fair today! One strange thing is that I can't see any signs of the weather sealing. No gaskets, nothing. And you can't access the menues during charging. Oh well.
Does "got my hands on" mean "bought"? I am wondering what you see in this camera? It is still quite large, or?
p.85 #17 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
carstenw wrote:
Does "got my hands on" mean "bought"? I am wondering what you see in this camera? It is still quite large, or?
Carsten,
Believe me the camera is not large. It is much smaller than it appears in the photos. Everyone thinks that it is large due to the bump of the EVF and possibly the grip. For an interchangeable lens FF camera I do not think that most people would want the camera smaller especially when using heavier lenses.
p.85 #18 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
naturephoto1 wrote:
One of the advantages of also purchasing one of the AC chargers for the camera. I have one ordered to come with my A7r. That way I could also charge 2 batteries at once. One in the camera and one in the separate AC charger.
Normally this would not be a problem. I don't think I'll need more than one battery if I'm not traveling, but not being able to set up the camera buttons while charging for the first time is a bit annoying. The screen says "USB mode connecting..." even if I haven't plugged it in to the computer.
By the way, I use an RX100 charger that can give 1500 mAh instead of the a7 charger that only gives 500 mAh. It seems to charge very fast and is now at 76% after only half an hour! I wonder why the a7 charger doesn't give more current. After all, USB standard means you could plug it into whatever charger you want.
carstenw wrote:
Does "got my hands on" mean "bought"?
I bought it. They only had kits, but one seller was willing to split it and sell the camera body alone for the standard price. Very nice.
I am wondering what you see in this camera? It is still quite large, or?
It's really small compared to any SLR. I'd say way less than half the volume of my D700 and less than half the weight. But still large enough to feel good with smallish SLR lenses. I think it's perfect in terms of size, but the best thing is the EVF and swiveling screen. Finally I will be able to focus where I want.
My only concern this far is that it'll probably be a pain to use it with gloves. The buttons are very small.
p.85 #19 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Makten wrote:
Normally this would not be a problem. I don't think I'll need more than one battery if I'm not traveling, but not being able to set up the camera buttons while charging for the first time is a bit annoying. The screen says "USB mode connecting..." even if I haven't plugged it in to the computer.
By the way, I use an RX100 charger that can give 1500 mAh instead of the a7 charger that only gives 500 mAh. It seems to charge very fast and is now at 76% after only half an hour! I wonder why the a7 charger doesn't give more current. After all, USB standard means you could plug it into whatever charger you want.
I bought it. They only had kits, but one seller was willing to split it and sell the camera body alone for the standard price. Very nice.
It's really small compared to any SLR. I'd say way less than half the volume of my D700 and less than half the weight. But still large enough to feel good with smallish SLR lenses. I think it's perfect in terms of size, but the best thing is the EVF and swiveling screen. Finally I will be able to focus where I want.
My only concern this far is that it'll probably be a pain to use it with gloves. The buttons are very small....Show more →
Martin,
When I am out shooting when it is cold I will use a pair of gloves with a fairly thin liner glove inside. When I need to adjust some things that are small I will will remove the heavier glove and rely on the dexterity of using the liner glove. It may be worth a try for you.
Oh well.