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p.170 #1 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Someone on dpreview posted a flare comparison between the A7 and A7r:

http://erphotoreview.com/wordpress/?p=4431



Feb 02, 2014 at 01:32 PM
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snapsy wrote:
Someone on dpreview posted a flare comparison between the A7 and A7r:

http://erphotoreview.com/wordpress/?p=4431


A little lacking, if you ask me. That could be just a dirty sensor.



Feb 02, 2014 at 02:07 PM
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carstenw wrote:
A little lacking, if you ask me. That could be just a dirty sensor.


It matches what I've seen, however - using the A7 myself and seeing others' pictures of the A7 and A7R. I rarely, if ever, see the expanding-discs flare on A7R photos.



Feb 02, 2014 at 02:20 PM
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p.170 #4 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Hmm, interesting. So, different cover sandwiches on the two... I wonder if that is just the AA filter, or something more.


Feb 02, 2014 at 03:31 PM
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p.170 #5 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


I rented the A7R and 55 1.8, and after using it for a full day I have two observations:

1. The image quality is truly outstanding.
2. The handling/ergonomics/"joy of use" is abysmal. Not sure how to improve that...



Feb 02, 2014 at 04:55 PM
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p.170 #6 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


fungz0r wrote:
What bags or inserts are you using to protect your a7 when carrying it around? I still haven't gotten around to getting a dedicated camera bag since I mainly take my camera on bike rides. Looking for a smaller neoprene casing or something


I mostly use this:
Domke J-803

I also have this for when I want to carry my Macbook as well:

Ona Union Street



Feb 02, 2014 at 05:01 PM
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fotographiq wrote:
I rented the A7R and 55 1.8, and after using it for a full day I have two observations:

1. The image quality is truly outstanding.
2. The handling/ergonomics/"joy of use" is abysmal. Not sure how to improve that...


Agree on the first point, as the IQ is amazing!

My love/hate with the ergonomics with the A7r has considerably lessened with practice, but in putting in perspective, it took me 6 months, to become efficient with the M9 RF focusing and methods, coming from DSLR's. It is a very new system, and the using the A7r does become a lot more intuitive, even the menus as you learn and delve directly to what you need. Of course, I do hope there will be firmware improvements, resolving the many niggling issues, but the A7r as it stands is very usable with practice. I find for family outings, and casual shooting, I am now taking the A7r with the FE 55 or 35 now, rather than the M240!



Feb 02, 2014 at 05:07 PM
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charles.K wrote:
Agree on the first point, as the IQ is amazing!

My love/hate with the ergonomics with the A7r has considerably lessened with practice, but in putting in perspective, it took me 6 months, to become efficient with the M9 RF focusing and methods, coming from DSLR's. It is a very new system, and the using the A7r does become a lot more intuitive, even the menus as you learn and delve directly to what you need. Of course, I do hope there will be firmware improvements, resolving the many niggling issues, but the A7r as it stands is very usable
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It's interesting that those that complain the most appear to be coming from other systems and have little or no experience with Sony while those coming from Sony systems (whether that be SLT cameras like the A99, or the RX1 or NEX) are much more comfortable with the A7r. I don't see a full day being enough to get comfortable unless you are already familiar with Sony and even then one day is really a stretch.



Feb 02, 2014 at 05:19 PM
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RobCD wrote:
It's interesting that those that complain the most appear to be coming from other systems and have little or no experience with Sony while those coming from Sony systems (whether that be SLT cameras like the A99, or the RX1 or NEX) are much more comfortable with the A7r. I don't see a full day being enough to get comfortable unless you are already familiar with Sony and even then one day is really a stretch.


I dont necessarily agree to that. I come from Canon - hardcore OVF/fast matte - Manual Zeiss etc.

After now exactly two months with the A7 it's safe to say that the camera with regular manual alt lenses can be handled fast enough to get any type of "job" done. With compliments.

The problem I have with the FE55 is that it begs for the use of AF and I cannot get the feel for that. At least not yet. The lens is very nicely built but the manual focus by wire feel is not for me, I hope to discover some nice settings for that if I give up AF.



Feb 02, 2014 at 05:37 PM
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bcaslis wrote:
Why don't you press the display button? There are a few different displays available and some show the filename.


I already did and there's no file name at all on the information text on the lcd, only file counter, time the photo taken, etc.
But finally I found it using the tips from Beni below ...

Beni wrote:
Only works if you have it set up right. Menu/Play Icon/View Mode/Folder View.


Thanks a lot Beni.




Feb 02, 2014 at 08:09 PM
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p.170 #11 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Now light leaks? ?http://community.sony.com/t5/Alpha-NEX-Cameras/A7-A7R-Light-leaks/m-p/254835#U254835


Feb 03, 2014 at 02:23 AM
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nandadevieast wrote:
Now light leaks? ?http://community.sony.com/t5/Alpha-NEX-Cameras/A7-A7R-Light-leaks/m-p/254835#U254835


I just took 2 shots with my A7 + fe 55 1.8. Took one shot with lens cap on. Took another with lens cap off.

No light leaks on mine.



Feb 03, 2014 at 02:56 AM
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p.170 #13 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Ditto.


Feb 03, 2014 at 03:54 AM
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p.170 #14 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


A7r, no leaks.


Feb 03, 2014 at 04:19 AM
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A7, ISO 25600, 20 seconds, using Olympus OM lens with OM to EOS + EOS to E-mount adapter .. light leaks appears.

When I covered the lens entirely to the E-mount with thick fabric ... no light leak at all ... completely black! .... Safe!! ... is it?



Feb 03, 2014 at 05:25 AM
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p.170 #16 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Try a native E-mount lens.


Feb 03, 2014 at 05:41 AM
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p.170 #17 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


carstenw wrote:
Try a native E-mount lens.


I don't have one at the moment, but I think in my case it should be caused by the double adapter and their quality (not metabones/novoflex)



Feb 03, 2014 at 06:03 AM
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p.170 #18 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


You could try first the EOS - E mount adapter, with a body cap on it. If no light, then add the other adapter...


Feb 03, 2014 at 09:06 AM
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p.170 #19 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Different wide angle options (Zeiss 21mm, CV 21mm, OM 18mm, Samyang/Canon 14mm, etc) tested on A7r (not my blog):
http://verybiglobo.blogspot.com/2014/01/sony-alpha-a7-ilce-7-and-sony-alpha-a7r_30.html



Feb 05, 2014 at 09:47 AM
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serhan_ wrote:
Different wide angle options (Zeiss 21mm, CV 21mm, OM 18mm, Samyang/Canon 14mm, etc) tested on A7r (not my blog):
http://verybiglobo.blogspot.com/2014/01/sony-alpha-a7-ilce-7-and-sony-alpha-a7r_30.html


Strange review format. Supertiny non-telling images and CV21 dismissed because of the hood (?) while the Rokkor 21 is recommended. When I had it I liked the colors but it ended with that except I thought it was the coolest looking thing I've ever put on the NEX. Both are inferior to a Distagon 21/2.8 but what isnt.




Feb 05, 2014 at 04:47 PM
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