p.118 #3 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
I sauntered into the Adorama Mothership today and who do I find with a table of their latest wares for manhandling but Sony!
Spent about 1/2 an hour with the newcomers (the Sony people were very accommodating).
The a7R was attached to its grip and mated to a 55/1.8. Probably the best implementation of an EVF with focus peaking I've used thus far (which is not to say it even approaches an OVF but is leaps and bounds better than the Fuji XE-1). If you're intending the camera as a platform for your 37 Alt lenses dating back to the Elvis Presley years (or early Berlin Wall era for those Zeiss Jena fans), do consider the grip. PERFECT size to balance large legacy glass sitting atop a 5 cm adapter. They also had an a7 attached with the Sony adapter to one of the Alpha SLR zooms, I think 16-35 (?50) or some such; neither a pretty sight nor balanced well in the hand. In fact, someone earlier had picked it up by the body, fumbled with the front-heavy creature and it fell lens-first onto the ground, denting the filter ring and rendering the zoom unable to, well, zoom. Hold an a7 for even a short period & you quickly realize that it was never intended for cumbersome SLR glass at all but instead, little Zeiss AF primes. Eccentrics contemplating an Otus with this dainty waif should try it first before attempting such a lunatic act of conjugation. Unnatural and probably still illegal in the Deep South.
Shutter on the a7 was noticeably quieter and with less vibration. The R…ugly to the ear. Can't have everything. The solid aluminum dials and magnesium front/edge plates were palpably more satisfying on the R.
Sales people were surprised that the R was on back-order already while the plain vanilla a7 could still be gotten in the brick & mortar location.
p.118 #5 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
miklar wrote:
For a walk-around lens it's usually best to have a zoom lens and one that's unobtrusive (great for street photography) and light in wight. So, if you're in no rush wait for the 24-70mm f4 FE lens and use whatever you have now until then.
Regarding a flash, just ask yourself what it is you want to lighten up and make your decision of how far it is able to light up a scene and how much bulk you can tolerate.
Cheers
Thank you for the reply. Currently, I only have Fuji X lenses (along with X-E2) and a Minolta 28-105 A-mount lens. I'm still debating whether I should take the plunge for A7r or not. My previous Sony was A99 and while I really liked it, I was disappointed with the high ISO performance.
p.118 #6 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
lumis beans wrote:
For those with both the NEX-6 and A7, how does the EVF compare?
A7 murderizes the NEX-6. Dynamic range, refresh rates, noise, all clearly better. Can't say how much of that is actually due to the EVFs themselves and how much is due to the sensors.
p.118 #8 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Lee Saxon wrote:
A7 murderizes the NEX-6. Dynamic range, refresh rates, noise, all clearly better. Can't say how much of that is actually due to the EVFs themselves and how much is due to the sensors.
I had these goofy thoughts that I might skip this release and jump on the next version, but I think that just about seals the deal. That and the ability to move focus magnification to C1 where it belongs. I've no more resistance left.
p.118 #9 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
j.liam wrote:
Eccentrics contemplating an Otus with this dainty waif should try it first before attempting such a lunatic act of conjugation. Unnatural and probably still illegal in the Deep South.
p.118 #10 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
I would appreciate if someone could post long exposure (8 minutes) images from the A7 and the A7r in a very dark environment (no lights on), at room temperature. Preferably both ISO 100 and ISO 1600, with 100% crops plus a small (1024 wide) complete image (to show corners).
Is the A7/r good for night photography and/or 10-20 stops neutral density filters?
p.118 #11 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Thank you for the reply. Currently, I only have Fuji X lenses (along with X-E2) and a Minolta 28-105 A-mount lens. I'm still debating whether I should take the plunge for A7r or not. My previous Sony was A99 and while I really liked it, I was disappointed with the high ISO performance.
Having no idea how the A99's performs at "high" ISO settings, I can only reference the ISO performance of the A7R to a recently acquired NEX-6.
The A7R is about one stop better than NEX-6's.
Hoping this is of help
p.118 #15 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Emacs wrote:
Decided to sell my A7, I just too dislike this little DSLR, all its unneeded limitations because "those are not used by serious photogs".
I thought it was a joke when you announced to have bought the A7 in the first place.
Why did you buy something you've been bashing since the announcement?
p.118 #17 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Jochenb wrote:
Why did you buy something you've been bashing since the announcement?
Once I turned to the opposite after a short use (it was about a ten years ago). And although it was only once, I keep this in mind, I can change my opinion, and since it wasn't particularly expensive, I decided to try it. Unfortunately, it too resembles DSLR to be practical for me, I like justified versatility and this camera is lack of it.
