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Archive 2013Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
p.16 #1Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
Doug, what raw developer do you use? FlexColor or Capture One? Lightroom is getting pink reds...
FWIW, I have now an R8, a DMR and I temporarily converted my 35 Lux back to Leica mount to try it all out.
FWIW, I have now an R8, a DMR and I temporarily converted my 35 Lux back to Leica mount to try it all out.
Sep 16, 2013 at 11:04 AM
p.16 #2Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
Mescalamba wrote:
And 16-bit, which allows same ways of PP as MFDBs.
You know that is useless if the sensor can't provide enough tonal range/precision to make use of those 16 bits, right? Converting the RAW of any 12 or 14 bits camera a 16 bits image in PS will give you more data to PP if that camera has better tonal range, AFAIK.
And 16-bit, which allows same ways of PP as MFDBs.
You know that is useless if the sensor can't provide enough tonal range/precision to make use of those 16 bits, right? Converting the RAW of any 12 or 14 bits camera a 16 bits image in PS will give you more data to PP if that camera has better tonal range, AFAIK.
Sep 16, 2013 at 01:59 PM
p.16 #3Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
carstenw wrote:
Doug, what raw developer do you use? FlexColor or Capture One? Lightroom is getting pink reds...
ACR through Photoshop. Pink reds?
Doug, what raw developer do you use? FlexColor or Capture One? Lightroom is getting pink reds...
ACR through Photoshop. Pink reds?
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Sep 16, 2013 at 02:07 PM
p.16 #4Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
carstenw wrote:
Doug, what raw developer do you use? FlexColor or Capture One? Lightroom is getting pink reds...
FWIW, I have now an R8, a DMR and I temporarily converted my 35 Lux back to Leica mount to try it all out.
We demand pics!!!
Doug, what raw developer do you use? FlexColor or Capture One? Lightroom is getting pink reds...
FWIW, I have now an R8, a DMR and I temporarily converted my 35 Lux back to Leica mount to try it all out.
We demand pics!!!
Sep 16, 2013 at 08:23 PM
p.16 #5Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
telyt wrote:
ACR through Photoshop. Pink reds?
http://wildlightphoto.com/birds/phasianidae/rnphea02.jpg
Yep I see slightly pinkish hue in reds.. (unless thats natural or caused by light).
carstenw wrote
Doug, what raw developer do you use? FlexColor or Capture One? Lightroom is getting pink reds...http://wildlightphoto.com/birds/phasianidae/rnphea02.jpg
Yep I see slightly pinkish hue in reds.. (unless thats natural or caused by light).
Sep 16, 2013 at 09:07 PM
p.16 #6Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
Mescalamba wrote:
Yep I see slightly pinkish hue in reds.. (unless thats natural or caused by light).
I think you're seeing what you expect to see. There are lots of variable involved here including lighting and my processing.
Yep I see slightly pinkish hue in reds.. (unless thats natural or caused by light).
I think you're seeing what you expect to see. There are lots of variable involved here including lighting and my processing.
Sep 16, 2013 at 09:54 PM
p.16 #7Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
I also see a tiny bit of pink there, but I think the bird could easily have been that colour. We need photos of standard objects here, like Ferraris or Coca Cola cans 
I have the camera with me today and will try to make a few photos of items of well-known colours.
I have the camera with me today and will try to make a few photos of items of well-known colours.Sep 17, 2013 at 03:55 AM
p.16 #8Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
I do not see any pink there.Stefan
Sep 17, 2013 at 04:03 AM
p.16 #9Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
I see red shifting toward magenta.
But that can be addressed using HSL or levels...if so preferred, of course
But that can be addressed using HSL or levels...if so preferred, of course
Sep 17, 2013 at 04:08 AM
p.16 #10Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
Pink, magenta... Pink is after all only red with a bit of white. Anyway, my daughter has a scooter which is fire-engine red, and when I took a photo of it, it came out a little pink (my D800 makes it a little orange, and a 5DII I tried even more so). I should try the Fuji S5 on that scooter
Anyway, I will try a few more constellations of red with the DMR today and see how that goes.
Anyway, I will try a few more constellations of red with the DMR today and see how that goes.
Sep 17, 2013 at 04:41 AM
p.16 #11Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
Ok, it's CPYK then 
How about luminosity of the surface you are shooting?
How about luminosity of the surface you are shooting?
Sep 17, 2013 at 05:05 AM
p.16 #12Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
carstenw wrote:
... We need photos of standard objects here, like Ferraris or Coca Cola cans :....
Hmmmm... I don't have either handy
for one of them, the other I can do without.
... We need photos of standard objects here, like Ferraris or Coca Cola cans :....
Hmmmm... I don't have either handy
for one of them, the other I can do without.Sep 17, 2013 at 05:17 AM
p.16 #13Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
No rusty red tractors nearby?
Sep 17, 2013 at 06:17 AM
p.16 #14Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
Not sure what portion of the scene you believe you are seeing the shift toward magenta, but the image is in mixed lighting that transitions from warm to cool. Probably not a good image / lighting to be evaluating color accuracy in mixed lighting.
Sep 17, 2013 at 06:41 AM
p.16 #15Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
telyt wrote:
Hmmmm... I don't have either handy
for one of them, the other I can do without.
Ach, don't be sad about the Ferrari, they aren't worth the trouble until you are wealthy enough to have several such cars. What I really want is an arctic silver 70s Porsche 911, which can be had in decent shape for 15000 Euro or less, quite realistic, even on a restricted budget.
carstenw wrote
... We need photos of standard objects here, like Ferraris or Coca Cola cans :.... for one of them, the other I can do without.Ach, don't be sad about the Ferrari, they aren't worth the trouble until you are wealthy enough to have several such cars. What I really want is an arctic silver 70s Porsche 911, which can be had in decent shape for 15000 Euro or less, quite realistic, even on a restricted budget.
Sep 17, 2013 at 08:01 AM
p.16 #16Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
Krosavcheg wrote:
No rusty red tractors nearby?
Sure, there are piles of them on every street corner in Berlin...
No rusty red tractors nearby?
Sure, there are piles of them on every street corner in Berlin...
Sep 17, 2013 at 08:03 AM
p.16 #17Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
telyt wrote:
ACR through Photoshop.
Perhaps we are using a different camera profile?
carstenw wrote
Doug, what raw developer do you use? FlexColor or Capture One? Lightroom is getting pink reds...Perhaps we are using a different camera profile?
Sep 17, 2013 at 08:35 AM
p.16 #18Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
Yep, Porsche..
In that particular "bird" pic I think its just light. That point with Coca-Cola is good, their red is super-consistent.
In that particular "bird" pic I think its just light. That point with Coca-Cola is good, their red is super-consistent.
Sep 17, 2013 at 09:05 AM
p.16 #19Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
carstenw wrote:
Hmmmm... I don't have either handy
for one of them, the other I can do without.Ach, don't be sad about the Ferrari, they aren't worth the trouble until you are wealthy enough to have several such cars. What I really want is an arctic silver 70s Porsche 911, which can be had in decent shape for 15000 Euro or less, quite realistic, even on a restricted budget.
What I'd really like is a VW Synchro Westfalia but what I can afford is a 17-year-old ex-Forest Service 4x4 pickup truck:
telyt wrote
carstenw wrote
... We need photos of standard objects here, like Ferraris or Coca Cola cans :.... for one of them, the other I can do without.What I'd really like is a VW Synchro Westfalia but what I can afford is a 17-year-old ex-Forest Service 4x4 pickup truck:
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Sep 17, 2013 at 09:26 AM
p.16 #20Digital Medium Format / 35mm equiv difference
telyt wrote
a 17-year-old ex-Forest Service 4x4 pickup truck:
With a nice work cap and good color balance.
Edited on Sep 17, 2013 at 09:34 AM · View previous versions
a 17-year-old ex-Forest Service 4x4 pickup truck:
With a nice work cap and good color balance.
Edited on Sep 17, 2013 at 09:34 AM · View previous versions
Sep 17, 2013 at 09:32 AM