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Archive 2013Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
p.75 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
wow that battery grip really makes things interesting. reminds me of the old F5.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:08 PM
p.75 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I'm liking the look of that battery grip.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:09 PM
p.75 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Yep, to avoid the sensor overheating. In the M9 it is 240s, but in the M240 it is just 60s.
sebboh wrote:
Richis there usually a limit to bulb mode?
sebboh wrote:
naturephoto1 wrote
Do we know yet if the cameras can accept a remote cable and what the longest time shutter speeds that the can be used?Rich
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:09 PM
p.75 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
arbitrage wrote:
Their max ISO I don't really care about since they will both be super noisy.Yes the max ISO and probably 1 or 2 stops below that max will be unusable but it does point to the 7 being about a stop better at ISO than the 7r.
It'll likely be similar to the D800 vs D600 Exmors. Different noise performance at 100% magnification but identical at equivalent (downsampled) resolutions.
LightShow wrote
The FPS kinda sucks, I was hoping for between 5 & 8 FPS, not 1.5/4 & 2.5/5 FPS.Their max ISO I don't really care about since they will both be super noisy.
It'll likely be similar to the D800 vs D600 Exmors. Different noise performance at 100% magnification but identical at equivalent (downsampled) resolutions.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:12 PM
p.75 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
edwardkaraa wrote:
Yep, to avoid the sensor overheating. In the M9 it is 240s, but in the M240 it is just 60s.
Richis there usually a limit to bulb mode?
That wouldn't apply in this case because the sensor is always "on" for a mirrorless camera.
Yep, to avoid the sensor overheating. In the M9 it is 240s, but in the M240 it is just 60s.
sebboh wrote
naturephoto1 wrote
Do we know yet if the cameras can accept a remote cable and what the longest time shutter speeds that the can be used?Rich
That wouldn't apply in this case because the sensor is always "on" for a mirrorless camera.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:14 PM
p.75 #6Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
snapsy wrote:
edwardkaraa wrote
Yep, to avoid the sensor overheating. In the M9 it is 240s, but in the M240 it is just 60s.sebboh wrote
naturephoto1 wrote
Do we know yet if the cameras can accept a remote cable and what the longest time shutter speeds that the can be used?Rich
Sounds great. Thanks!
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:16 PM
p.75 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
edwardkaraa wrote:
Yep, to avoid the sensor overheating. In the M9 it is 240s, but in the M240 it is just 60s.
Ed, that's a Leica thing.
Most CaNikons, unless things have changed, will let you BULB until the battery dies.
Yep, to avoid the sensor overheating. In the M9 it is 240s, but in the M240 it is just 60s.
Ed, that's a Leica thing.
Most CaNikons, unless things have changed, will let you BULB until the battery dies.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:17 PM
p.75 #8Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
naturephoto1 wrote:
Richis there usually a limit to bulb mode?But, I am wondering what has been implemented from the NEX cameras versus the RX1. Doesn't the RX1 only have the ability to shoot to 30 seconds or is this incorrect?
Rich
bulb mode works just fine on both the NEX-7 and rx1. i've never gone over ~10 minutes with either but i would assume it could go for at least 30 min probably a lot more depending on how long the battery lasts.
sebboh wrote
naturephoto1 wrote
Do we know yet if the cameras can accept a remote cable and what the longest time shutter speeds that the can be used?Rich
Rich
bulb mode works just fine on both the NEX-7 and rx1. i've never gone over ~10 minutes with either but i would assume it could go for at least 30 min probably a lot more depending on how long the battery lasts.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:17 PM
p.75 #9Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
looking great.
@lightshow, I agree FPS bit of disappoint.
Is it touchscreen?
It's 110 grams heavier than a nex-7, but it's weatherproof.
@lightshow, I agree FPS bit of disappoint.
Is it touchscreen?
It's 110 grams heavier than a nex-7, but it's weatherproof.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:17 PM
p.75 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
ISO1600 wrote:
Their max ISO I don't really care about since they will both be super noisy.your mother will be super noisy 
Are you making fun of my spelling?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noisy
noisy adjective \ˈnȯi-zē\
: making a lot of loud or unpleasant noise
: full of loud or unpleasant noise
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nosy
nosy adjective \ˈnō-zē\
: wanting to know about other people's lives, problems, etc.
LightShow wrote
The FPS kinda sucks, I was hoping for between 5 & 8 FPS, not 1.5/4 & 2.5/5 FPS.Their max ISO I don't really care about since they will both be super noisy.
Are you making fun of my spelling?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noisy
noisy adjective \ˈnȯi-zē\
: making a lot of loud or unpleasant noise
: full of loud or unpleasant noise
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nosy
nosy adjective \ˈnō-zē\
: wanting to know about other people's lives, problems, etc.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:35 PM
p.75 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
That grip does look nice, hmm.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM
p.75 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
Specs:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/a7-and-a7r-specs/
Same specs for both sensors, including:
"each on-chip lens is optimally positioned depending on its location to accommodate the sharper angle of light entering the periphery, which is caused by larger sensor dimensions being teamed with the E-mount’s short flange-back distance"
Specs:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/a7-and-a7r-specs/
Same specs for both sensors, including:
"each on-chip lens is optimally positioned depending on its location to accommodate the sharper angle of light entering the periphery, which is caused by larger sensor dimensions being teamed with the E-mount’s short flange-back distance"
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:39 PM
p.75 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
ISO1600 wrote:
wow that battery grip really makes things interesting. reminds me of the old F5.
Yes it does. In a bad way. Why throw out 20 years of ergonomic development? It should look more like a D4 than an F5.
wow that battery grip really makes things interesting. reminds me of the old F5.
Yes it does. In a bad way. Why throw out 20 years of ergonomic development? It should look more like a D4 than an F5.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM
p.75 #15Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
A7r:
- Lightest FF camera with interchangeable lens ever
- 36.4 MP
- gapless lens design on sensor (no AA filter)
- each on-chip lens is optimally positioned depending on its location to accommodate the sharper angle of light entering the periphery, which is caused by larger sensor dimensions being teamed with the E-mount’s short flange-back distance
- new BIONZ X image processing engine
- 14-bit RAW image
- ISO 100-25600 (with 50 ISO extension)
- Advanced 1200-zone evaluative metering
- 4fps (Max. 1.5fps, Speed Priority Continuous shooting)
- 1/8000 to 30sec shutter
- TRILUMINOS™ Color technology (color space)
- 1080 HD uncompressed, 60p/24p and 60i frame-rates. AVCHD and MP4 codec.
- 2.4M dot OLED EVF
- 25 points contrast AF
- +/- 5EV compensation
- tiltable 3.0” (1,229k dots) Xtra Fine™ LCD
- Multi-interface Shoe for flash
- PC control with remote video capture control
- Wi-Fi®/NFC control
- Playmemories App
- weight 465g (with battery and card)
- battery 1080 mAh for 340 shots (with LCD monitor always on!)
- weather sealed body
A7 (I do only list what’s different from the A7r):
- 24 MP
- 117 points (phase-detection AF), 25 points (contrast-detection AF)
- 5fps (Max. 2.5fps, Speed Priority Continuous shooting)
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/a7-and-a7r-specs/
- Lightest FF camera with interchangeable lens ever
- 36.4 MP
- gapless lens design on sensor (no AA filter)
- each on-chip lens is optimally positioned depending on its location to accommodate the sharper angle of light entering the periphery, which is caused by larger sensor dimensions being teamed with the E-mount’s short flange-back distance
- new BIONZ X image processing engine
- 14-bit RAW image
- ISO 100-25600 (with 50 ISO extension)
- Advanced 1200-zone evaluative metering
- 4fps (Max. 1.5fps, Speed Priority Continuous shooting)
- 1/8000 to 30sec shutter
- TRILUMINOS™ Color technology (color space)
- 1080 HD uncompressed, 60p/24p and 60i frame-rates. AVCHD and MP4 codec.
- 2.4M dot OLED EVF
- 25 points contrast AF
- +/- 5EV compensation
- tiltable 3.0” (1,229k dots) Xtra Fine™ LCD
- Multi-interface Shoe for flash
- PC control with remote video capture control
- Wi-Fi®/NFC control
- Playmemories App
- weight 465g (with battery and card)
- battery 1080 mAh for 340 shots (with LCD monitor always on!)
- weather sealed body
A7 (I do only list what’s different from the A7r):
- 24 MP
- 117 points (phase-detection AF), 25 points (contrast-detection AF)
- 5fps (Max. 2.5fps, Speed Priority Continuous shooting)
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/a7-and-a7r-specs/
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM
p.75 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
uhoh7 wrote:
looking great.
@lightshow, I agree FPS bit of disappoint.
Is it touchscreen?
The magazine scan on the other page does not refer to a touch screen, so not very likely.
looking great.
@lightshow, I agree FPS bit of disappoint.
Is it touchscreen?
The magazine scan on the other page does not refer to a touch screen, so not very likely.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM
p.75 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Ach, if this is (not really any chance of this, but still) in stores when I reach Seattle next week, I'll get one for the american price and be happy.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM
p.75 #18Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
These specs also show the higher res LCD, as on the RX1.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM
p.75 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
yeah i saw that higher res LCD.... that'd be nice!
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:47 PM
p.75 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Almost wonder if A7 makes more sense with better AF.
Oct 15, 2013 at 10:52 PM