I have the Canon EOS 1DX as my main camera mainly for sports and horse racing shots, I need second camera that can fire off plenty of frames per second as remote camera, I was wondering has any of you used this camera for sports and will it capture good shots at speed, also how reliable is it?
Its seems excellent value and also has large files. Thanks
well we all know what way this threads going to go dont we
the 7D is a body that gets very little love around here when the 1 series / FF crowd get going .
im a 7D owner and i think its a great camera . but then im not expecting it to perform like a £4k+ body (which is what a 1 series is no matter what age or price on the used market it is now)
but a mk4 will out perform it , which it should do considering its going to give little or no change out of £2k . and if thats in your budget the a mk4 or 5D3 (lower FPS) will be the goto options
Ian.Dobinson wrote:
well we all know what way this threads going to go dont we
the 7D is a body that gets very little love around here when the 1 series / FF crowd get going .
im a 7D owner and i think its a great camera . but then im not expecting it to perform like a £4k+ body (which is what a 1 series is no matter what age or price on the used market it is now)
but a mk4 will out perform it , which it should do considering its going to give little or no change out of £2k . and if thats in your budget the a mk4 or 5D3 (lower FPS) will be the goto options ...Show more →
You'll be lucky to get a 1Dmk4 in decent shape for £2k. Some places are selling them for between £2.5-£2.9k and that's with 70-100k shots through them. If I only get an offer of £2k for mine, I'd rather just keep it (and forget my 1DX dream ). I think if the OP can stretch to a 1Dmk4 then he'd be better off because its a lot closer to the 1DX in performance (as it should be for the money). I had a 7D for two years and is a good little camera.
Just some buffer/shot numbers to get you thinking...
I've not shot with any of these bodies; the 7D I did test in store, the 'write-to-card-speed' of each body and card speed will be your most critical factors. I'll bow to those that shoot these speed demons to expound on how fast each body flushes their respective buffers...this I do not know, but I'd hazard a guess the 'newer' bodies can use faster 'udma' type cards.
The buffer/shot data/numbers were taken from a chart published by 'The Digital Picture' and it's review of the 1D3.
StillFingerz wrote:
Just some buffer/shot numbers to get you thinking...
I've not shot with any of these bodies; the 7D I did test in store, the 'write-to-card-speed' of each body and card speed will be your most critical factors. I'll bow to those that shoot these speed demons to expound on how fast each body flushes their respective buffers...this I do not know, but I'd hazard a guess the 'newer' bodies can use faster 'udma' type cards.
The buffer/shot data/numbers were taken from a chart published by 'The Digital Picture' and it's review of the 1D3.
7D 18mp, 1.6x crop sensor, 8fps
- RAW 25 shots, 3 seconds to fill the buffer
- JPEG 130 shots, you get 16 seconds
1D3 10mp, 1.3x crop sensor, 10fps
- RAW 30 shots, 3 seconds to fill the buffer
- JPEG 110 shots, 11 seconds
1D4, 16mp, 1.3x crop sensor, 10fps
- RAW 28 shot, 2.8 seconds to fill the buffer
- JPEG 121, 12 seconds...Show more →
That's only half the story, we also have to remember that the 7d clears the buffer WAY faster than the 1diii.
I have all the cameras mentioned here.... I'd go 1d3 for many reasons. They are cheap! same battery as the X, built like a tank as are most 1D**... I like the files better than a 7D. I'm a sports shooter, I have 2 1d3's (had them since they first were introduced). I can't recall ever having buffer issues. I print 20x30's on a regular basis. Yea, if your budget could handle a 1d4, that's be nice but....
I shot a Spartan race last fall. I was on the motor all day with a 1d3, I shot 7500 images in 9 hours, I never got into the buffer (Jpegs). About the only way I could see the buffer being an issue, is if you were shooting RAWs... PM me if you want some real world experiences. Reviews are nice, but sometimes they end up being technacrap.
I guess I should reveal that I have had a 7D for over 3 years now, and I shoot mostly sports/action. I love the camera.
Most of the criticism of the 7D is related to noise at high ISO, and there are plenty of folks that feel the noise is too much even at low ISO. I manage perfectly fine at ISO4000, but maybe I'm too easy to please. But I digress.
If you are shooting in good light, I think you'd be really happy with the 7D. Its AF is excellent, although a 1D3 is probably better (assuming you get a good one), especially in low light.
But there is a lot to be said about the 1D3 suggestion, if you get one with no AF problems, and you don't need the reach that the 7D provides. I think the 1D3 is better than the 7D at high ISO, and I've always thought the image quality from the 1D3 sensor is beautiful.
RogerC11 wrote:
That's only half the story, we also have to remember that the 7d clears the buffer WAY faster than the 1diii.
Roger, thank you, that's the side of the picture that needed to be filled in, it does seem to give the edge to the 7D for unassisted usage...very cool...now lets here from a 1D4 shooter
I haven't shot a 1D3 but i slowly moved from a 1D2n to a 7D when I felt comfortable enough with it being capable of meeting my needs while offering a lot more pixels for heavy crops. I don't shoot sports but do shoot fast paced action in the form of radio control aircraft which fly much faster then many realize. The 7D could & did do the job as long as I did my part BUT as mentioned files were a bit noisy (the sky) when cropped aggressively. I didn't shoot in low light so no opinion on that but I did shoot at ISO 1600 & 3200 with no complaints about noise at the monitor level but I don't think I ever printer any photos shot at those ISO's. I have replaced the 7D with a 1D4 & my R/C season is just starting up & I have a bad feeling I'm going to miss the extra reach it offered.
NOTE I've got by VERY happily shooting these events with either the 1Ds2 / 1D2n OR 1Ds2 / 7D for a few years but will rely on a 1Ds2 / 1D4 combo this year along with the same lenses (35-350 L / 100-400 L IS / and added last season 28-300 L IS). My plan for the first event of the season is to use the 28-300 L IS with the 1Ds2 & the 100-400 L IS with the 1D4 but that still leaves me a bit shorter than what I'm used too.
RogerC11 wrote:
That's only half the story, we also have to remember that the 7d clears the buffer WAY faster than the 1diii.
StillFingerz wrote:
Roger, thank you, that's the side of the picture that needed to be filled in, it does seem to give the edge to the 7D for unassisted usage...very cool...now lets here from a 1D4 shooter
Hey Jerry,
As I've said in recent threads, I sold my 7D and 1DIII to help pay for a 1DIV, about two years ago. The 1DIV is definitely better than either one of them. IMO, it's better than both of them. At that time, I also had a 1DsIII. Now I shoot a 1DX and 1DIV. I would rather have a 1DIII than a 7D to backup either of my current 1D-series bodies.
As I've said in recent threads, I sold my 7D and 1DIII to help pay for a 1DIV, about two years ago. The 1DIV is better than either, possibly better than both. At that time, I also had a 1DsIII. Now I shoot a 1DX and 1DIV. I would rather have a 1DIII than a 7D to backup either of my current 1D-series bodies.
Jim
Hi Jim,
Budget is my biggest issue ATM, second is strength and until both are much stronger I must stick with bodies that have a separate grip; I do have some serious lust for the 1D bodies tho. Have shot with a 1V for many years, it with grip is the closest I've been to a fully integrated AF body. In 07 I sold it to go digital and it netted a shinny new gripped 40D and 70-200 F4L IS, and other goodies. EOS-3's are still in my kit, but I do miss the 1V, it was even more a TANK than the T-90
This year's lust meter has had me near buying a 1D2N or 1D3, Peter and his amazing pijuns set the internal fire on high, but I've held off with great pain
It will be some time before I can effort a 1D body and perhaps by then a 1DIV or 1DX will be within reach. Until then my eyes are on a 6D kit, working out with my stretchy bands and free weights. We'll see what 2014 holds, what these hands n arms can manage. There's still life in this 40D, I've not yet exploited all it's wonders
Cheers to 1D lust and dreams of real AF and 10fps or more
Jerry
I think the 1d3 makes the most sense for you. It is amazing bang for the buck now. It would be very similar to your 1dx in functionality/battery so much nicer to go between the two bodies. I like shooting with it much better than with the 7d. I only pick the 7d when I need the greater pixel density.
I have a 1DIII and a 7D, I keep the 7D for wildlife alone, have used the 1DIII for sports, it seems to focus way better than 7D and I get more keepers, it does take longer for the buffer to clear though and the files are only 10 megapixel but if you are close enough Id go the 1DIII simply for the clean files and focus. both cameras are pretty good. Id love a 1D4 but cant afford one at present Im sure it would be the way to go over the two cameras I have
40D was excellent, but the 7D does large prints really convincingly IMHO, especially using studio flash.
7D is an excellent companion to the 5D2 as each body largely has the features the other lacks so a great complimentary partnership. The fact that no 7D2 has arrived yet suggests that the original model is proving hard to beat.
David Baldwin wrote:
40D was excellent, but the 7D does large prints really convincingly IMHO, especially using studio flash.
7D is an excellent companion to the 5D2 as each body largely has the features the other lacks so a great complimentary partnership. The fact that no 7D2 has arrived yet suggests that the original model is proving hard to beat.
Certainly Canon have been in no rush to update the 18 meg crop sensor, what's that been in now...9 different models of camera (including the M and the 60Da)?
