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p.21 #1 · New Leica Mini?


They were making losses for 10 years straight, then broke even and finally made a profit last year

http://spyro-p.smugmug.com/photos/i-9fcx5Dz/0/XL/i-9fcx5Dz-XL.jpg


but their manufacturing and R&D costs are still huge.



Jun 10, 2013 at 07:06 PM
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p.21 #2 · New Leica Mini?


To Leica's credit, how many other camera companies made a profit last year?

That's what I thought...

That said, I do not understand this product, but then I don't understand the point of any of their products other than the rangefinders and lenses.



Jun 10, 2013 at 07:45 PM
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p.21 #3 · New Leica Mini?


lets face it, this camera is disappointing because its not a $3000 M240. nobody wants anything other than a $3000 M240, so all our hopes were up that Leica would unveil a way to have the M experience for a Mercedes price instead of a Lamborghini price. alas, no. if you wanna play, you gotta pay.

want a mirrorless interchangeable lens full frame in a compact package? buy an M240.



Jun 10, 2013 at 08:36 PM
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p.21 #4 · New Leica Mini?


It is as expected, and it's not disappointing. This camera is not for photographer, just like the Hassy luna. My source told me the prototype was equipped with Tri-Elmar (perhaps the 28-35-50), but eventually switched to this lens for wider range.


Jun 10, 2013 at 09:09 PM
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p.21 #5 · New Leica Mini?


phuang3 wrote:
It is as expected, and it's not disappointing. This camera is not for photographer, just like the Hassy luna.


Being like the Hasselooney is pretty much the definition of disappointing, if not downright insulting to any actual photographers using the brand.



Jun 10, 2013 at 09:18 PM
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p.21 #6 · New Leica Mini?


I wasn't expecting a $3000 M240, but I think they would've been better off with an APS-C sensor in a smaller body with an M-mount. I was hoping that the new M would be a watershed release for them and that what we'd see going forward would be, if not progressive, then at least competitive. This camera seems to be squarely aimed at the faithful who will buy anything they produce.


Jun 10, 2013 at 09:45 PM
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p.21 #7 · New Leica Mini?


itai195 wrote:
To Leica's credit, how many other camera companies made a profit last year?

That's what I thought...

That said, I do not understand this product, but then I don't understand the point of any of their products other than the rangefinders and lenses.


Yea thats pretty much that funny part, since last year was bad for almost every company in photographic industry, yet Leica manged to make quite a big profit for them.

Otherwise seeing those numbers, it really wasnt even close to be terrible.. Those few MEUR in negative numbers isnt much. I thought it was way worse then this.



Jun 10, 2013 at 09:49 PM
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p.21 #8 · New Leica Mini?


Last year Nikon made $600m, Canon made $2.5 billion.
Thats profits



Jun 11, 2013 at 04:43 AM
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p.21 #9 · New Leica Mini?


I'm gonna go with "told ya so."


Jun 11, 2013 at 06:37 AM
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p.21 #10 · New Leica Mini?


Beat ya, May 24th


Jun 11, 2013 at 06:45 AM
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p.21 #11 · New Leica Mini?


Dpreview Press Release:
Leica announces X Vario zoom compact with APS-C sensor

Samples:
Leica in Netherlands

Review from Jono Slack:
The Leica X Vario - previously known as Paula

Edited on Jun 11, 2013 at 09:01 AM · View previous versions



Jun 11, 2013 at 08:26 AM
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p.21 #12 · New Leica Mini?


And that's the end of that.

I will be a little surprised if we see a X Vario image thread here at Alt fm in a foreseable future



Jun 11, 2013 at 08:42 AM
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p.21 #13 · New Leica Mini?


Spyro P. wrote:
Last year Nikon made $600m, Canon made $2.5 billion.
Thats profits


Yeah, that's the point. Nikon, Canon, Leica, and that's it.



Jun 11, 2013 at 09:07 AM
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p.21 #14 · New Leica Mini?


I just saw the release announcement on DPR.

I have no expectations to disappoint, being unlikely to ever own a Leica digital camera. But I will say, from a user perspective, this is an appealing P&S camera, even with its slow lens. I like the features and the Leica heritage/pedigree -- I'd expect it to take better than average APS-C pictures.

If the camera was selling for $1200, I'd consider it, or later, a used one as they became available. The options look great too, but again, the price is outrageous for a normal user.

I'm still looking at the G1X as my race-out-the-door camera, with its features and collapsible lens. I haven't seen anything that matches it for features, IQ, and price. Still keeping my eyes open though!

Sorry Leica.



Jun 11, 2013 at 10:47 AM
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p.21 #15 · New Leica Mini?


I've been waiting for an APS-C point & shoot camera with a zoom lens, but not this slow, bulky and pricey...maybe a Sony p&s with a Zeiss zoom lens will give me what I've been dreaming with...I know it's just a matter of time


Jun 11, 2013 at 11:06 AM
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p.21 #16 · New Leica Mini?


RIP Leica....................and that Xbox one too while we're at it!

Yup



Jun 11, 2013 at 11:14 AM
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p.21 #17 · New Leica Mini?


I like the samples from thew new vario but the lens is way too bulky to make it a convenient point and shoot. I wonder what kind of market they're targeting with this camera? Don't get me wrong I love Leica's rangefinder and lenses but you'd have to really love red dots to consider spending money on this one.


Jun 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM
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p.21 #18 · New Leica Mini?


Sample photos, preview, hands-on, press release and more - The X Vario Has Arrived!


Jun 11, 2013 at 12:13 PM
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p.21 #19 · New Leica Mini?


Techradar review
Full-rez jpegs on Flickr



Jun 11, 2013 at 12:58 PM
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p.21 #20 · New Leica Mini?


ROFL!

The Internet Hates X Vario



Jun 11, 2013 at 01:20 PM
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