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p.7 #1Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
Here from Canon and an L lens 
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Nov 22, 2012 at 08:14 PM
p.7 #2Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
How does it compare to the Carl Zeiss 35/1.4 Distagon?
Nov 22, 2012 at 08:21 PM
p.7 #3Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
kewlcanon wrote:
Here from Canon and an L lens. Now tell me the Canon rep is fine with this .
http://julianchen.smugmug.com/Misc/Lens/Canon-50L/i-fh7FDsg/0/XL/20111211-Canon-EOS-7D-IMG2886-XL.jpg
Those OOF highlights are caused by mirror box clipping and there's nothing you can do about it. It's not poor lens design, but something all ultra-fast lenses will have issues with wide open. It's a camera limitation. Needs a bigger mirror box.
Here from Canon and an L lens
. Now tell me the Canon rep is fine with this .http://julianchen.smugmug.com/Misc/Lens/Canon-50L/i-fh7FDsg/0/XL/20111211-Canon-EOS-7D-IMG2886-XL.jpg
Those OOF highlights are caused by mirror box clipping and there's nothing you can do about it. It's not poor lens design, but something all ultra-fast lenses will have issues with wide open. It's a camera limitation. Needs a bigger mirror box.
Nov 22, 2012 at 08:44 PM
p.7 #4Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
Wow, you guys are measurebating waaaay too hard.
Nov 23, 2012 at 12:25 AM
p.7 #5Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
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Nov 23, 2012 at 01:01 AM
p.7 #6Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
RogerC11 wrote:
Wow, you guys are measurebating waaaay too hard.
Yep.
Over analysis paralysis.
Wow, you guys are measurebating waaaay too hard.
Yep.
Over analysis paralysis.
Nov 23, 2012 at 01:07 AM
p.7 #7Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
Quoting RobDickinson
"So people have a choice, pay more for a canon with nicer bokeh or get the cheaper sigma which is probably sharper. Who loses?"
Absolutely right. Now I understand creamy bokey is important for some photographers but it isn't for everyone, speaking entirely subjectively personally I am interested in sharpness/control of corner coma at f1.4 on objects I am focused on, we are not all OOF fetishists (nothing wrong if you are of course). If the Sigma is really good at sharpness/corner coma at or near wide open then it would be mighty attractive particularly at a sensible price.
"So people have a choice, pay more for a canon with nicer bokeh or get the cheaper sigma which is probably sharper. Who loses?"
Absolutely right. Now I understand creamy bokey is important for some photographers but it isn't for everyone, speaking entirely subjectively personally I am interested in sharpness/control of corner coma at f1.4 on objects I am focused on, we are not all OOF fetishists (nothing wrong if you are of course). If the Sigma is really good at sharpness/corner coma at or near wide open then it would be mighty attractive particularly at a sensible price.
Nov 23, 2012 at 04:02 AM
p.7 #8Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
Legion5 wrote:
Sigma invented a lens that produces bad Bokeh at every opportunity it gets.
Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.
You think it fair to slate a lens you don't own based on one image that you have no idea has been processed? Looks like you are justifying your Canon L from a fanboy standpoint.
Sigma invented a lens that produces bad Bokeh at every opportunity it gets.
Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.
You think it fair to slate a lens you don't own based on one image that you have no idea has been processed? Looks like you are justifying your Canon L from a fanboy standpoint.
Nov 23, 2012 at 04:23 AM
p.7 #9Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
Wiiispa wrote:
Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.You think it fair to slate a lens you don't own based on one image that you have no idea has been processed? Looks like you are justifying your Canon L from a fanboy standpoint.
Come, come, now that's not fair..
Legion5's painstaking analysis of the bokeh of this new Sigma has convinced me that I should in fact buy a used Canon 35mm 1.4L.
Perhaps I'll buy the one that Legion5 himself is currently selling:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1166631/0?keyword=x#11124098
Edited on Nov 23, 2012 at 06:45 AM · View previous versions
Legion5 wrote
Sigma invented a lens that produces bad Bokeh at every opportunity it gets.Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.
Come, come, now that's not fair..
Legion5's painstaking analysis of the bokeh of this new Sigma has convinced me that I should in fact buy a used Canon 35mm 1.4L.
Perhaps I'll buy the one that Legion5 himself is currently selling:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1166631/0?keyword=x#11124098
Edited on Nov 23, 2012 at 06:45 AM · View previous versions
Nov 23, 2012 at 04:41 AM
p.7 #10Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
Wiiispa wrote:
Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.You think it fair to slate a lens you don't own based on one image that you have no idea has been processed? Looks like you are justifying your Canon L from a fanboy standpoint.
I would prefer an expensive (old or new) 35L with wonderful bokeh over any sigma 35 f1.4 with so-so bokeh.
Legion5 wrote
Sigma invented a lens that produces bad Bokeh at every opportunity it gets.Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.
I would prefer an expensive (old or new) 35L with wonderful bokeh over any sigma 35 f1.4 with so-so bokeh.
Nov 23, 2012 at 04:41 AM
p.7 #11Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
I think the Sigma will be a great and fast 35mm lens. All that talk about it's bad bokeh from a lot of people here that don't even have seen or used the lens have be taken with a large pinch of salt.
I'm interested in the new Sigma even if I own both the Zeiss ZE 35/1,4 and ZE 35/2 lenses. And if wonderful bokeh is important to you, the Zeiss 35/1,4 is way better than the Canon 35L. The Canon is not even close to the Zeiss when comparing the bokeh
I'm interested in the new Sigma even if I own both the Zeiss ZE 35/1,4 and ZE 35/2 lenses. And if wonderful bokeh is important to you, the Zeiss 35/1,4 is way better than the Canon 35L. The Canon is not even close to the Zeiss when comparing the bokeh
Nov 23, 2012 at 05:26 AM
p.7 #12Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
Lord Gnome wrote:
Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.You think it fair to slate a lens you don't own based on one image that you have no idea has been processed? Looks like you are justifying your Canon L from a fanboy standpoint.Come, come, now that's not fair..
Legion5's painstaking analysis of the bokeh of this new Sigma have convinced me that I should in fact buy a used Canon 35mm 1.4L.
Perhaps I'll buy the one that Legion5 himself is currently selling:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1166631/0?keyword=x#11124098
yes it's so good!! that he don't even like to keep it
Wiiispa wrote
Legion5 wrote
Sigma invented a lens that produces bad Bokeh at every opportunity it gets.Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.
Legion5's painstaking analysis of the bokeh of this new Sigma have convinced me that I should in fact buy a used Canon 35mm 1.4L.
Perhaps I'll buy the one that Legion5 himself is currently selling:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1166631/0?keyword=x#11124098
yes it's so good!! that he don't even like to keep it
Nov 23, 2012 at 05:27 AM
p.7 #13Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
I guess that explains everything...
Nov 23, 2012 at 08:36 AM
p.7 #14Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
Lars Johnsson wrote:
Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.You think it fair to slate a lens you don't own based on one image that you have no idea has been processed? Looks like you are justifying your Canon L from a fanboy standpoint.Come, come, now that's not fair..
Legion5's painstaking analysis of the bokeh of this new Sigma have convinced me that I should in fact buy a used Canon 35mm 1.4L.
Perhaps I'll buy the one that Legion5 himself is currently selling:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1166631/0?keyword=x#11124098
yes it's so good!! that he don't even like to keep it
Lord Gnome wrote
Wiiispa wrote
Legion5 wrote
Sigma invented a lens that produces bad Bokeh at every opportunity it gets.Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.
Legion5's painstaking analysis of the bokeh of this new Sigma have convinced me that I should in fact buy a used Canon 35mm 1.4L.
Perhaps I'll buy the one that Legion5 himself is currently selling:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1166631/0?keyword=x#11124098
yes it's so good!! that he don't even like to keep it
Nov 23, 2012 at 08:46 AM
p.7 #15Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
I'm glad to see that the optical quality of the Sigma is so high. But I already wish the 35L, which I own and love, were lighter and more compact than it is. I'll probably end up with the new Canon 35/2 IS if it's as good as the Imatest suggests – not for the IS, but for the smaller weight and size.
Nov 23, 2012 at 09:50 AM
p.7 #16Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
Lord Gnome wrote:
Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.You think it fair to slate a lens you don't own based on one image that you have no idea has been processed? Looks like you are justifying your Canon L from a fanboy standpoint.Come, come, now that's not fair..
Legion5's painstaking analysis of the bokeh of this new Sigma has convinced me that I should in fact buy a used Canon 35mm 1.4L.
Perhaps I'll buy the one that Legion5 himself is currently selling:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1166631/0?keyword=x#11124098
possibly the best first post in FM history
Wiiispa wrote
Legion5 wrote
Sigma invented a lens that produces bad Bokeh at every opportunity it gets.Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.
Legion5's painstaking analysis of the bokeh of this new Sigma has convinced me that I should in fact buy a used Canon 35mm 1.4L.
Perhaps I'll buy the one that Legion5 himself is currently selling:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1166631/0?keyword=x#11124098
possibly the best first post in FM history
Nov 23, 2012 at 09:57 AM
p.7 #17Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
Hi guys ... occasional lurker, first time poster. I've had the lens since Wednesday night... since it looks like there's some contention about processing in the samples Legion5 referenced, I have some sample shots up here: http://smu.gs/R40J1P
Taken with a 5Dc, all the shots are RAWs imported to LR and exported w/ default settings (WB "As Shot," "Adobe Standard" image profile, 25/1/25/0 sharpening, no NR, all other settings 0). Analyze away.
Taken with a 5Dc, all the shots are RAWs imported to LR and exported w/ default settings (WB "As Shot," "Adobe Standard" image profile, 25/1/25/0 sharpening, no NR, all other settings 0). Analyze away.
Nov 23, 2012 at 12:10 PM
p.7 #18Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
rpaul wrote:
Hi guys ... occasional lurker, first time poster. I've had the lens since Wednesday night... since it looks like there's some contention about processing in the samples Legion5 referenced, I have some sample shots up here: http://smu.gs/R40J1P
Taken with a 5Dc, all the shots are RAWs imported to LR and exported w/ default settings (WB "As Shot," "Adobe Standard" image profile, 25/1/25/0 sharpening, no NR, all other settings 0). Analyze away.
Thanks, some great samples. Always love a dog shot
Hi guys ... occasional lurker, first time poster. I've had the lens since Wednesday night... since it looks like there's some contention about processing in the samples Legion5 referenced, I have some sample shots up here: http://smu.gs/R40J1P
Taken with a 5Dc, all the shots are RAWs imported to LR and exported w/ default settings (WB "As Shot," "Adobe Standard" image profile, 25/1/25/0 sharpening, no NR, all other settings 0). Analyze away.
Thanks, some great samples. Always love a dog shot
Nov 23, 2012 at 12:24 PM
p.7 #19Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
robinlee wrote:
Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.You think it fair to slate a lens you don't own based on one image that you have no idea has been processed? Looks like you are justifying your Canon L from a fanboy standpoint.Come, come, now that's not fair..
Legion5's painstaking analysis of the bokeh of this new Sigma have convinced me that I should in fact buy a used Canon 35mm 1.4L.
Perhaps I'll buy the one that Legion5 himself is currently selling:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1166631/0?keyword=x#11124098
yes it's so good!! that he don't even like to keep it
I am Nikon shooter. I have to saying hi to this post. Great found with good Laugh.
Lars Johnsson wrote
Lord Gnome wrote
Wiiispa wrote
Legion5 wrote
Sigma invented a lens that produces bad Bokeh at every opportunity it gets.Canon's 35mm is one of my favorite lenses and that lens is a master of good bokeh. It's a real shame Sigma messed up the bokeh on lens who's reason for existing at least for me is bokeh.
Legion5's painstaking analysis of the bokeh of this new Sigma have convinced me that I should in fact buy a used Canon 35mm 1.4L.
Perhaps I'll buy the one that Legion5 himself is currently selling:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1166631/0?keyword=x#11124098
yes it's so good!! that he don't even like to keep it
I am Nikon shooter. I have to saying hi to this post. Great found with good Laugh.
Nov 23, 2012 at 12:26 PM
p.7 #20Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM first impressions
Canon 35L bokeh is nothing to brag about. I think it's overrated.
Nov 23, 2012 at 01:13 PM