does anyone who has responded use off camera flash? I mean i have yet to read a single person mention flash sync and real world experience. my D700 pushes past 320 easy. where are the D600 users finding sync speeds failing them? I don't care about MP count.
thanks
Im not trying to be snarky, looking for an educated response.
Tete wrote:
does anyone who has responded use off camera flash? I mean i have yet to read a single person mention flash sync and real world experience. my D700 pushes past 320 easy. where are the D600 users finding sync speeds failing them? I don't care about MP count.
thanks
Im not trying to be snarky, looking for an educated response.
If you're using Nikon CLS with FP sync, there is no issues at all unless you need to sync at 1/8000s for your creative needs. If you use regular strobes, 1/200s can be an issue unless you're willing to use ND filters in the front of your lens. I did some tests and its doable for regular subjects; but, whether or not you want to go that route is totally another thing.
70-200VRII at f/22 1/200 base ISO turning the day into night.
mshi wrote:
If you're using Nikon CLS with FP sync, there is no issues at all unless you need to sync at 1/8000s for your creative needs. If you use regular strobes, 1/200s can be an issue unless you're willing to use ND filters in the front of your lens. I did some tests and its doable for regular subjects; but, whether or not you want to go that route is totally another thing.
70-200VRII at f/22 1/200 base ISO turning the day into night.
DavidWEGS wrote:
Works up to 1/250th in Auto FP. You can use HSS with radio poppers too.
However, I am finding it to be more frustrating if you want to use the higher SS. I now realize I used 1/8000 more often that I thought.
mshi wrote:
There is a reason Nikon capped it at 1/4000. After all, its called consumer body. How many Joe Six-packs really have reasons to do 1/8000 FP sync?
I dunno, but would suggest that it probably has nothing to do with FP sync. IIRC, the d600 ISO range is down to 50, a full stop lower than the d700, reducing the apparent need for 1/8000 SS.
It tracks smoothly with modern lenses in my testing so far. It isn't until you shoot it back to back quickly against a D4 or D3S that you realize maybe the acquisition speed isn't quite the same, but my keeper rate with fairly simple settings (which I also employ on my D3S) suggests it's up to the job.
mjk115 wrote:
For me, I love using fast glass outdoors. The 1/4000 shutter speed of the D600 is a big deterrent. ND filters can be used, of course, but it's not always convenient.
Also, I handled a D600 this weekend, and I had read many conflicting posts about the AF sensor array. To my eye, it is noticeably more clustered in the middle. You lose some of those all important rule-of-thirds points.
I personally primarily use my D700 for people shots with either the 35/1.4, 85/1.4 or the 70-200/2.8(sigma). Max resolution is rarely my main need. If resolution is something you need, the D600 looks like an excellent, less expensive alternative to the D800 and an upgrade from the D700.
If you're like me, the D700 is still meeting your needs and in some ways is still superior....Show more →
Correct me if I'm wrong, but d700 base iso is 200. Base iso on the d600 is 100. So the 1/4000th limit is moot, unless of course you somehow need 1/8000th of a second to freeze action.
Hardcore wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but d700 base iso is 200. Base iso on the d600 is 100. So the 1/4000th limit is moot, unless of course you somehow need 1/8000th of a second to freeze action.
So if Nikon decides to come up with base ISO at 25, the max shutter speed has to be reduced to say 1/1000? For some reason, I find myself hard to swallow the equivalent exposure argument.
mshi wrote:
There is a reason Nikon capped it at 1/4000. After all, its called consumer body. How many Joe Six-packs really have reasons to do 1/8000 FP sync?
I struggle with that one. Somehow I don't see many "Joe Six-packs spending over $2000 on a camera body. Most of those type of people I know think you are nuts for spending more than $500 on an entire kit including lenses, but I get what you mean.
This is an interesting read. Having a D700 myself that I thoroughly enjoy, comparisons with the D600 and D800 are interesting to me. I don't have an issue with the weight, but my wife does. This might be a good camera for that purpose, as well as giving me a killer second FX body that exeeds my current one in many ways.
mshi wrote:
So if Nikon decides to come up with base ISO at 25, the max shutter speed has to be reduced to say 1/1000? For some reason, I find myself hard to swallow the equivalent exposure argument.
I'm not saying it has to be reduced. Not sure if your getting what I mean.
ISO 100 F1.4 @ 1/4000th is the same as ISO 200 F1.4 @ 1/8000th. The exposures will look the same.
Hardcore wrote:
I'm not saying it has to be reduced. Not sure if your getting what I mean.
ISO 100 F1.4 @ 1/4000th is the same as ISO 200 F1.4 @ 1/8000th. The exposures will look the same.
Sort of… However, this falls apart when shooting very fast moving subjects where the faster SS provides less apparent camera shake in the fine details.
I have to also add that 1/4000, while not as fast as I would have liked, does the job most times.
DavidWEGS wrote:
Sort of… However, this falls apart when shooting very fast moving subjects where the faster SS provides less apparent camera shake in the fine details.
I have to also add that 1/4000, while not as fast as I would have liked, does the job most times.
You're talking about fast moving subjects and then you're talking about camera shake in the same sentence. Two different things and I can't imagine 1/4000 showing camera shake.
DigMeTX wrote:
You're talking about fast moving subjects and then you're talking about camera shake in the same sentence. Two different things and I can't imagine 1/4000 showing camera shake.
brad
Ya, usually, 1/2000th is plenty to stop the action. Heck, I shoot hockey at 1/800th and 90% of the time it is fast enough to stop the action and that is the fastest game on earth.
DigMeTX wrote:
You're talking about fast moving subjects and then you're talking about camera shake in the same sentence. Two different things and I can't imagine 1/4000 showing camera shake.
brad
Oops, silly me. I meant to say subject movement. Doesn't matter if you don't print big, but if you do… it can show.
BTW, ISO 50 has less DR and recovery headroom than standard 100 ISO. So although you can use it to slow the shutter, it does not do the same thing entirely.
