Frank_Maiello wrote:
I’d argue that the D700 is a better machine for taking pictures, while the D600 has a better computer.
Not sure if this was intended to be a joke or not, if not could you elaborate?
I guess it was more of an "annoyance" than anything with the weight. As far as video, if it is implemented well it is a feature I don't use a bunch but nice to know its there, doesn't take up any more space.
I don't get whining about video being on the camera. Just ignore it if you don't want to use it. I'm sure there are features on the D700 that people don't use. Should we pick out every feature that we don't use for all of our electronics and whine about it? I can get being dismayed about some missing feature that you wanted but complaining about an extra feature that you won't use?? Just move on.
Frank_Maiello wrote:
I’d argue that the D700 is a better machine for taking pictures, while the D600 has a better computer.
Michaelparris wrote:
Not sure if this was intended to be a joke or not, if not could you elaborate?
Sure. Consider for example that high-performance SLR cameras have long been equipped with eyepiece shutters that can be closed as needed. If stray light enters the viewfinder during a long exposure, there’s a good chance it’s going to fog the picture. Thankfully it only takes half a second to close the D700’s eyepiece shutter, but the process for the D600 involves an easy-to-lose accessory that must be installed and uninstalled repeatedly during a session, or a roll of gaffers tape. In this case, one device is more a competent, versatile machine than the other.
The joke is that too many people don’t seem to understand there’s more to photography than computing power.
DigMeTX wrote:
I don't get whining about video being on the camera. Just ignore it if you don't want to use it. I'm sure there are features on the D700 that people don't use. Should we pick out every feature that we don't use for all of our electronics and whine about it? I can get being dismayed about some missing feature that you wanted but complaining about an extra feature that you won't use?? Just move on.
brad
Taking a wild guess, I suspect that customers are paying more for video features they may not use than say, an intervalometer they may not use.
Frank_Maiello wrote:
Sure. Consider for example that high-performance SLR cameras have long been equipped with eyepiece shutters that can be closed as needed. If stray light enters the viewfinder during a long exposure, there’s a good chance it’s going to fog the picture. Thankfully it only takes half a second to close the D700’s eyepiece shutter, but the process for the D600 involves an easy-to-lose accessory that must be installed and uninstalled repeatedly during a session, or a roll of gaffers tape. In this case, one device is more a competent, versatile machine than the other.
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So your disqualifying for that treason.....not sure I can agree
I actually downloaded the manual and couldn't find an answer. How do you change from 39 point autofocus to 9 point or single point? Do you have to go through the menu?
Michaelparris wrote:
So your disqualifying for that treason.....not sure I can agree
I'm not "disqualifying" anything, I'm simply pointing out that one of those cameras is a more sophisticated machine in ways that are relevant to picture-taking. When I shoot long, nighttime exposures with a 600mm lens, the convenience of flipping a tiny lever that doesn't shake the camera around is preferable to a more physical approach.
Its omission is a message from Nikon to many of us that says, "This isn't the camera you're looking for, but don't worry, we make that one as well."
Michaelparris wrote:
How does it compare. Good, bad and otherwise....
When I owned the D700 the only thing(s) I did not like were the weight, lack of video, resolution and a few 2 fingered ergonomic controls.....
What say you....
The D600 is lighter, has video, and has higher resolution. IMO the button layout on the D700 is better.
The D600 has 3 things you did not like on the D700.
eSchwab wrote:
I actually downloaded the manual and couldn't find an answer. How do you change from 39 point autofocus to 9 point or single point? Do you have to go through the menu?
From memory (not always so good) I think you hold down the lower left focus mode selector button and scroll one of the command dials while watching the LCD.
That's how you do it on the D800. THe 600 has the same type of switch/button, so it's probably the same way. One switch changes between af-s and af-c. The other one changes between single, 9, 21, all, 3d track. Note that in AF-S only single and Auto (all) are available (which is too bad).
I sold my D700 and purchased a D600. I am so happy I made the change. I am continually amazed when I zoom to 100% in LIghtroom. So much resolution. I image quality IMO is far better with the D600.
I wrote the following on the day I purchased the D600
Ok First impressions of the D600. Remember, I am coming from a D700 with a grip!
THis is a "physical" impression. You will be seeing many images taken with it. You can judge them yourself.
Honestly? When I first took it out of the box and held it my initial thought was, "This feels cheap!" It is smaller and lighter than the D700. I was a bit saddened. You know what a D700 is. It is a tank! With the grip it weighs a ton. The D800 evens feels like a light weight next to the D700. I've never held a D4, but I suspect it too falls short. THe D600 is my camera now, so I'll have to make do. Those feelings are from the first few minutes of having the new camera.
The camera has not left my side since I picked it up. I've shot 78 pictures so far. Not a lot, but enough to start to get the feel of the camera. At the photo club meeting this afternoon the camera was on my lap. My right hand was holding the camera. Out of the blue I thought "THis feels nice!" It is starting to feel comfortable in my hand. NICE!
THe shutter button feels different. I don't have to press it as hard to click the first shot. THe second shot I have to consciously lift my finger up. I found myself pressing the button (for the 2nd shot) and nothing happened. I have to lift my finger farther. No big deal, just different
THe shutter sounds different. Quieter. IT also sounds faster. I'm sure that is my imagination...
The screen appears brighter. I don't have a GGS LCD Screen Protector on it yet, so that may change.
Dog gone it, they moved the "OK" button. I am always looking to the lower left for it. OK is now at the center of the Command Dial. I'll get used to it
THe command dial is smaller. When I first looked at it I wasn't too happy. But in use I like it better than the D700. WIth the D700 half the time when I pressed the button, I would be actuating the adjacent button (for example, when pressing the command dial "straight up" I would be pressing the one 90 degs from it). I haven't missed with the D600.
After playing with it for awhile I have to say it feels very comfortable in my hands. I typically open my left hand and rest the camera/lens on it. THe D600 drops right in and feels good.
I found myself looking for the shutter button on my (non existant) grip when I rotated the camera 90 deg for a portrait shot. The grip has been ordered. That will not be an issue soon.
Oh. I always thought having a 2nd card in the camera as a silly option. When I walked to the club meeting this afternoon I was clicking away. By the time I returned home I had shot about 70 pictures. I looked at my MBP and thought CRAP. The memory card was still in the card reader. Guess what? THe photos I took were stored on the memory card in slot #2 of my camera. Nice!!!! I now like having 2 cards in my camera
Bottom line. I like it. It feels good. It sounds good. I suspect when the grip arrives I will very pleased with things
Here are a few D600 pictures taken with my old fashion manual focus lenses For more images check the manual focus thread and look for photos by "leighton w"