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A.S. Aspiring Second Shooter. (will shoot for any FM member for free!)

So I have second shot my first wedding (yay me!), but cannot post it due to the contract. Last weekend was a good friends wedding and I shot the getting ready simply because I was already there (5am, the photographers started at the tea ceremony 4 hours later and were with the bridal party for ~13 hours). Ok ok, I admit I wanted to shoot some

Harsh C&C desired, I am looking for ways to improve. They had quite a few people sleep at their place the night before so the house was a bit messy, was it too forced the way I used the flash to hide that?


1)
http://www.whyafoto.com/photos/i-6rZC6M4/0/XL/i-6rZC6M4-XL.jpg

2)
http://www.whyafoto.com/photos/i-B5kQQbB/0/XL/i-B5kQQbB-XL.jpg

3)
http://www.whyafoto.com/photos/i-SG9CPsQ/0/XL/i-SG9CPsQ-XL.jpg

4)
http://www.whyafoto.com/photos/i-PPz6JJG/0/XL/i-PPz6JJG-XL.jpg

5)
http://www.whyafoto.com/photos/i-5cGPbFM/0/XL/i-5cGPbFM-XL.jpg

6)
http://www.whyafoto.com/photos/i-nB7WFHL/0/XL/i-nB7WFHL-XL.jpg

7)
http://www.whyafoto.com/photos/i-GXZ4qnh/1/XL/i-GXZ4qnh-XL.jpg

8)removed

9r) * Likely I am the only one who likes this, but hey, I like it.
http://www.whyafoto.com/photos/i-NkvmsfR/0/XL/i-NkvmsfR-XL.jpg
10r)* Likely I am the only one who likes this, but hey, I like it.
http://www.whyafoto.com/photos/i-Dt7XHwS/0/XL/i-Dt7XHwS-XL.jpg


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Sep 20, 2012 at 02:55 AM
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p.1 #2 · A.S. Too forced? edition


great images, maybe too similar but great.
I think a second lenses, a wide, would have make the difference.

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Sep 20, 2012 at 03:45 AM
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p.1 #3 · A.S. Too forced? edition


I think you did a wonderful job, great set!


Sep 20, 2012 at 03:46 AM
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p.1 #4 · A.S. Too forced? edition


I don't mind the mess so much if it reinforces the wedding day's story. These are not romantic portraits, for the most part. So mess or blown out backgrounds... kind of a tossup for me. The 'mess' that definitely bothers me though is the camera sitting on the table in #4, as I presume that's your mess (could be wrong).


Sep 20, 2012 at 07:46 AM
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p.1 #5 · A.S. Too forced? edition


Pretty standard stuff for pre shots. I think they would be a stronger set if the they were BW. Just my opinion.


Sep 20, 2012 at 08:08 AM
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p.1 #6 · A.S. Too forced? edition


i would hire you to second shoot for me based on these images. they are really solid.

the only thing i'd crit a bit is that i'd like MORE depth of field in them...especially number 1.




Sep 20, 2012 at 08:30 AM
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p.1 #7 · A.S. Too forced? edition


I think these are nice.

Couple things that I would do:

2. clone out the guy's face behind the girl. it's an interesting composition, but maybe if you had waited until the make up artist's hand/brush arm were also in the frame?

3. crop tighter to get rid of... looks like a container of pretzels.

4. again crop tighter to get rid of the person on the left.



Sep 20, 2012 at 08:39 AM
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p.1 #8 · A.S. Too forced? edition


Get that camera out of #4!

Good job overall. I would hire you to second.



Sep 20, 2012 at 08:43 AM
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p.1 #9 · A.S. Too forced? edition


widjayaman wrote:
Get that camera out of #4!

Good job overall. I would hire you to second.


Depends on whose camera that is. Haha.



Sep 20, 2012 at 08:46 AM
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p.1 #10 · A.S. Too forced? edition


Mitch W wrote:
I don't mind the mess so much if it reinforces the wedding day's story. These are not romantic portraits, for the most part. So mess or blown out backgrounds... kind of a tossup for me. The 'mess' that definitely bothers me though is the camera sitting on the table in #4, as I presume that's your mess (could be wrong).


Groom's camera, no way I would leave one of mine in frame.

Thanks for all the comments so far.



Sep 20, 2012 at 10:33 AM
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I guess I'm in the minority in that I find the blowing out to be very distracting in all the images. The eye will naturally gravitate to the brightest spot in any image first, which in these images is never the subject. The only one where it sort of works is the second one where the eye must travel to the darkest spot by virtue of the composition. It also seems like the white balance is off -everything is very orange although that could just be my monitor.

- trr



Sep 20, 2012 at 10:50 AM
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p.1 #12 · A.S. Too forced? edition


SloPhoto wrote:
Groom's camera, no way I would leave one of mine in frame.

Thanks for all the comments so far.

Groom shoots with decent gear!



Sep 20, 2012 at 10:50 AM
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TRReichman wrote:
I guess I'm in the minority in that I find the blowing out to be very distracting in all the images. The eye will naturally gravitate to the brightest spot in any image first, which in these images is never the subject. The only one where it sort of works is the second one where the eye must travel to the darkest spot by virtue of the composition. It also seems like the white balance is off -everything is very orange although that could just be my monitor.

- trr


Not your monitor. They had horrendous CCFL lights in the house, and the faces are lit by those lights + a touch of not gelled enough flash that is filling from the light behind them. I like images a bit warm, but this is as close as I could get it without going beyond just the WB sliders in LR.

Mitch W wrote:
Groom shoots with decent gear!


Yea, I used to loan him a spare camera for some events and about 1 year ago he decided to get into the hobby. As a wedding present, the bride got him a 24L.



Sep 20, 2012 at 10:56 AM
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p.1 #14 · A.S. Too forced? edition


these are nice ... but the orange skin is a little over the top.
agree with a few crop suggestions and convert 1-2 to B&W.



Sep 20, 2012 at 03:41 PM
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p.1 #15 · A.S. Too forced? edition


Ziffl3 wrote:
these are nice ... but the orange skin is a little over the top.
agree with a few crop suggestions and convert 1-2 to B&W.


Yea, you and TRR's comments are driving me to go through and edit them again tonight.

The light quality was poor, but it is likely the split-toning and color curves that I use that are making it look as bad as it does.

I may also try doing a B&W conversion on the first two, I am not usually one to do any black and white.... but you guys have me curious now.



Sep 20, 2012 at 03:46 PM
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p.1 #16 · A.S. Too forced? edition


Slo... just to clarify..... either 1 or 2 images from the entire set - convert to B&W.


Sep 20, 2012 at 03:54 PM
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p.1 #17 · A.S. Too forced? edition


Ziffl3 wrote:
Slo... just to clarify..... either 1 or 2 images from the entire set - convert to B&W.


Yes, I understood, I am *personally* most curious what 1 and 2 will look like after conversion. Might try one of the tighter crops too.



Sep 20, 2012 at 04:20 PM
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p.1 #18 · A.S. Too forced? edition


marti.g3 wrote:
Pretty standard stuff for pre shots. I think they would be a stronger set if the they were BW. Just my opinion.


I 2nd this. I was going to say all of them would work well black and white, except for the last one where the hair/makeup lady is jamming two fingers into the brides ear. I might drop that one.

B



Sep 20, 2012 at 04:24 PM
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p.1 #19 · A.S. Too forced? edition


Yeah, too consistently hot/blown. It’s fine on one or two pictures, but it’s a bit much in every picture posted. I don’t know if you cranked the exposure in some of them (#1 in particular looks hotter than it might otherwise be) but it’s a style best gone to sparingly, IMO.

However, Chuck is right, these show enough promise to hire as a second, or at least get an interview and a portfolio review.



Sep 20, 2012 at 05:30 PM
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p.1 #20 · A.S. Too forced? edition


As the primary, I am not concerned about the processing. I only care about the content of the photos. And the content is pretty good in most of the frames.


Sep 20, 2012 at 05:35 PM
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