sirimiri wrote:
Yes, it is a poor decision for a user standpoint, to mimic the "film-loading" method of the "analogue" M cameras. The M8 could have been a clean break with the plate of yore, but instead Leica removed "the notch" at the viewfinder housing and kept the bottom plate. My opinion is that for reasons of commonality, the M9 then became captive to the accessory grip designed for the M8.
You sit and fiddle in cold, or wet weather, with a plate in your left hand, a camera in your right hand, the battery...in...your third hand.
By "an accessory that gives people the option", how do you mean?
I understand your complaints. With my style of shooting, I rarely have to change a card or battery in the field. The only time I have to pull a batter out is if the camera decideds to hang up on me. After all this time, I thought that crap would be over.
Anyways, as far as the accessory I was speaking of loosely earlier. In my mind, I was thinking something like a grip that allows you to access the battery and SD card but is removable as well. There is a company that makes one already...I can't remember the name of hand. Anyhow, something similar. Again, it has never bothered me that bad.
I've always loved my leicas because they are simple and more or less the exact same as an M3 I once had. There is no confusion when you pick one up. The new M is a little awkard to me because of that. It almost looks like a V-Lux or something. I know that isn't the best description but it is still weird looking. When I think Leica M, I think photo, photograph, photographer not video, movie, videographer. Just a little weird.
I must be super coordinated, since I have no problems changing batteries or cards in the field with the M9.
Looking at the new M, I see nothing that will impact my shooting style. All the 'extra' buttons aren't in places where I'll accidentally hit them. Some people must really fondle their cameras while shooting.
chrisdee wrote:
That CMOSIS sensor looks incredible. The claimed 90dB dynamic range translates to 30 stops
Where did you see that? 30 stops would be unrealistic imo.
Anyway, I am personally thrilled by the new M. It blends modern features with the unobtrusiveness of the M system. I can see it replacing basically most of my needs in studio, street and event (PJ) work. Only for sports will I still require the speed/reach of a D4.
VladiD wrote:
Where did you see that? 30 stops would be unrealistic imo.
Anyway, I am personally thrilled by the new M. It blends modern features with the unobtrusiveness of the M system. I can see it replacing basically most of my needs in studio, street and event (PJ) work. Only for sports will I still require the speed/reach of a D4.
I'm going to wait until we see some tests before getting too excited about the new sensor. FWIW, this thread is interesting about CMOSIS and Fill factory history: link to leica forum
I'm not sure it matters, anyways. Even though the M9's sensor, in terms of technical specs, is outperformed by most recent fullframe sensors from other brands, as well as some aps-c sensors, people defend the CCD as if it is magical. I'm sure we'll see the same for this sensor, regardless of the performance.
Um, the brochure for the M clearly shows the micro lenses and how they differ from traditional micro lenses.
Here is the exact quote:
"in the case of the Leica max 24 mP sensor, and in contrast to standard CmoS sensors, even light rays with large angles of incidence, e.g. from wide-angle lenses or large apertures, are captured precisely by the photodiodes of the sensor. This is enabled by the special microlens design and the smaller distance between the colour filter and photodiode, which allows more light to enter the system, and ensures that it falls more directly on the respective photodiodes."
The "flat" sensor surface probably refers to the shorter distance mentioned above between the colour filter and photodiode. My curiosity is if all of the above are "toppings" that have been applied to a Sony basic 24MP sensor. Even if it is, it would not make it any less of a sensor.
Yes, I might've made a mistake there, as the lit area translates into pixel charge so it's ~6dB per stop instead of 3. It equates to 15 stops dynamic range in the end.
Still good stuff, even compared to D800's 14.4 stops.
EDIT: looks like the sensor is 14bit, so the dynamic range will be limited by the bit depth of the ADC (14 stops). Is the D800 sensor 14bit or 16bit?
douglasf13 wrote:
I'm going to wait until we see some tests before getting too excited about the new sensor. FWIW, this thread is interesting about CMOSIS and Fill factory history: link to leica forum
I'm not sure it matters, anyways. Even though the M9's sensor, in terms of technical specs, is outperformed by most recent fullframe sensors from other brands, as well as some aps-c sensors, people defend the CCD as if it is magical. I'm sure we'll see the same for this sensor, regardless of the performance.
I agree. I am also interested to see some concrete high ISO shots. The thought of usable 6400 excites me, I never shoot beyond that anyway.
Regardless of the sensor's origin, the advertised 15-stop dynamic range seems promising. Assuming it's without the AA filter, this could be a killer camera. I'll await either Mr. Chambers or Mr. Reid to do a review on it before I make the final decision. It's time to save up.
douglasf13 wrote:
VladiD, I agree. Usable 6400 would be plenty for me, too.
Tariq, I'm pretty sure this sensor is from CMOSIS, not Sony.
Yes, I know that's what all the press reads. I suppose I'm curious what CMOSIS actually contributes though. Their website looks fairly sparse. I guess I'm just curious if they just optimize an available, off the shelf sensor/ basic design.
