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p.1 #110d replacement information
Looks like in september the 10d replacement will be announced. This came from Paul Pope, a very reliable source. Unfortunately no other details.
Jul 22, 2004 at 11:25 AM
p.1 #210d replacement information
Kyle definitely says the 1D MK II will be replaced -- No details yet unfortunately. 
Of course ALL DSLR's will be replaced until the technology stabilizes out -- we are still in the infancy period of this technology --but it's getting better with each new cam.
Cheers
-K
Of course ALL DSLR's will be replaced until the technology stabilizes out -- we are still in the infancy period of this technology --but it's getting better with each new cam.Cheers
-K
Jul 22, 2004 at 11:37 AM
p.1 #310d replacement information
Well I tried to wait for that but I just can't wait much longer and hence I bought 1DmkII and it was goooooooooood 
Ike
Ike
Jul 22, 2004 at 12:04 PM
p.1 #410d replacement information
I really dont think this is new news. This has been mentioned many times so why is it any different since Paul Pope says it.
Jul 22, 2004 at 04:52 PM
p.1 #510d replacement information
I think the original source for the earlier discussions was that same guy.
Jul 22, 2004 at 06:12 PM
p.1 #610d replacement information
Actually, all Paul said was that production has started (or is about to start, I forget) on the 10D replacement. Nothing else.
Considering what my 10D does now, I don't think I'll be in the market for another camera for a good while.
Considering what my 10D does now, I don't think I'll be in the market for another camera for a good while.
Jul 22, 2004 at 06:17 PM
p.1 #710d replacement information
what are we speculating the 10D replacement will be like... very similar to the 10D but in a bit higher megapixel form?
Jul 22, 2004 at 06:44 PM
p.1 #810d replacement information
"what are we speculating the 10D replacement will be like... very similar to the 10D but in a bit higher megapixel form?"
Probably the same body 'n sensor but with E-TTL II, ECF, iTunes compatibility (useful while waiting for good light), MIDI compatibility (for user customized beep tones) and will be made in Taiwan instead of Japan. Oh, the 10D will drop to below $1000 street...
Probably the same body 'n sensor but with E-TTL II, ECF, iTunes compatibility (useful while waiting for good light), MIDI compatibility (for user customized beep tones) and will be made in Taiwan instead of Japan. Oh, the 10D will drop to below $1000 street...
Jul 22, 2004 at 07:10 PM
p.1 #910d replacement information
I am interested only if it has 1.3X crop factor and the 45 point autofocus system. Then I can send my 10D of to my father in-law as a Christmas, Birthday, Anniversary gift.
Gerry
Gerry
Jul 22, 2004 at 07:24 PM
p.1 #1110d replacement information
The rumor I'm hoping comes true is actually a dual replacement. One very similar to the actual 10D and lower price and another, around $2000 or a bit more, intended to be a real "midrange" DSLR. Specs are anyone's guess but, of course, for the higher priced model, it will be somewhere in between the 10D and the 1DMKII.
As for the crop factor, I think that in all but the "1" series models, 1.6X is the only thing we'll see from Canon for a few *years* to come.
Marc P.
As for the crop factor, I think that in all but the "1" series models, 1.6X is the only thing we'll see from Canon for a few *years* to come.
Marc P.
Jul 22, 2004 at 08:06 PM
p.1 #1210d replacement information
10DFT wrote:
Considering what my 10D does now, I don't think I'll be in the market for another camera for a good while.
me neither
Considering what my 10D does now, I don't think I'll be in the market for another camera for a good while.
me neither
Jul 22, 2004 at 08:22 PM
p.1 #1310d replacement information
>>The rumor I'm hoping comes true is actually a dual replacement. One very similar to the actual 10D and lower price and another, around $2000 or a bit more, intended to be a real "midrange" DSLR. Specs are anyone's guess but, of course, for the higher priced model, it will be somewhere in between the 10D and the 1DMKII.
As for the crop factor, I think that in all but the "1" series models, 1.6X is the only thing we'll see from Canon for a few *years* to come.
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I'm with you. I believe Canon has a firm corporate idea of what comprises a "consumer" camera and what comprises a "professional" camera, and certain things won't cross the boundary.
For instance, the pro cameras have enviro sealing, 240 volt flash syncs, big buffers, interchangeable focusing screens, high-cycle shutters, and big sensors. Those are things I don't think they will ever put in the the "consumer" cameras (we see the same sort of thinking in the film line).
I agree with you that there will be a modest 10D update--probably USB 2.0 and/or Firewire, a Secure Digital slot along with the Compact Flash, whatever is the latest version of DIGIC, and some other modest tweaks. They might keep it at $1200 to compete with the D70, or they might raise it back to $1500.
I also agree that there is a good chance they'll put a pro-level camera into that $2000-2500 bracket. It might have either the 1.3x sensor or the big buffer, but not both. It won't have enviro sealing, but it might have the 240 volt trigger circuit. It might have the high-cycle shutter or interchangeable screens, but not both.
As for the crop factor, I think that in all but the "1" series models, 1.6X is the only thing we'll see from Canon for a few *years* to come.
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I'm with you. I believe Canon has a firm corporate idea of what comprises a "consumer" camera and what comprises a "professional" camera, and certain things won't cross the boundary.
For instance, the pro cameras have enviro sealing, 240 volt flash syncs, big buffers, interchangeable focusing screens, high-cycle shutters, and big sensors. Those are things I don't think they will ever put in the the "consumer" cameras (we see the same sort of thinking in the film line).
I agree with you that there will be a modest 10D update--probably USB 2.0 and/or Firewire, a Secure Digital slot along with the Compact Flash, whatever is the latest version of DIGIC, and some other modest tweaks. They might keep it at $1200 to compete with the D70, or they might raise it back to $1500.
I also agree that there is a good chance they'll put a pro-level camera into that $2000-2500 bracket. It might have either the 1.3x sensor or the big buffer, but not both. It won't have enviro sealing, but it might have the 240 volt trigger circuit. It might have the high-cycle shutter or interchangeable screens, but not both.
Jul 22, 2004 at 08:34 PM
p.1 #1410d replacement information
If they were to do the pro-level thing at $2000-2500, I would prefer the 1.3X sensor. Of course, there are others who would prefer a different feature set.
Jul 22, 2004 at 08:47 PM
p.1 #1510d replacement information
I think it will be wireless capabilities, firewire, usb 2.0 capable, 1.6x
unlike previous models this one will be a completely different body design.
unlike previous models this one will be a completely different body design.
Jul 22, 2004 at 08:58 PM
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p.1 #1610d replacement information
5 frames per sec. will be nice plus 8 megapixels......1.6 crop no problem I like that.
Jul 22, 2004 at 09:27 PM
p.1 #1710d replacement information
"unlike previous models this one will be a completely different body design."
The D30 & 60 had the same body. The 10D got a nice upgrade with the magnesium body shell. Why fix it if it ain't broke? EOS bodies tend to slowly evolve. For consumer bodies, not much has changed in the basic control layout since the 1991 Elan (pro bodies are still based in the 15 year old EOS 1). I suspect the body and control layout will remain essentially the same.
The D30 & 60 had the same body. The 10D got a nice upgrade with the magnesium body shell. Why fix it if it ain't broke? EOS bodies tend to slowly evolve. For consumer bodies, not much has changed in the basic control layout since the 1991 Elan (pro bodies are still based in the 15 year old EOS 1). I suspect the body and control layout will remain essentially the same.
Jul 23, 2004 at 12:07 AM
p.1 #1810d replacement information
That is what I love about this forum Compare this thread with the one on dpreview linked in the first post. This discussion is at a much more mature level with no name calling or flaming. My eyes are sore from reading dpreview (I have now gotten to the part where the forum posters are telling the newbie he has no idea since he has only been a member for four months).
Ahhhh, good old FM ...
Compare this thread with the one on dpreview linked in the first post. This discussion is at a much more mature level with no name calling or flaming. My eyes are sore from reading dpreview (I have now gotten to the part where the forum posters are telling the newbie he has no idea since he has only been a member for four months). Ahhhh, good old FM ...
Jul 23, 2004 at 02:45 AM
p.1 #1910d replacement information
On the some of the past posts there were discussions about how pixel density and noise are related. Maybe the 10D replacement will have a 1.5x crop factor - two reasons I can think of two good commercial reasons for this:
1) Puts distance between the 300D and 10D, better product separation
2) Competes head-on with Nikon, Fuji and Pentax's 1.5x sensors.
I agree, 1.3x ain't happening on a $1500-$1800 body - but 1.5 might.
I think the more interesting rumor is the 3D based dSLR which has everything we're looking for (a common characteristic for good vapor-ware). 1.3x, 8MP 4-5 FPS, Eye Control. At $2000-$2500 this would be a great alternative to those of lusting after a 1DmkII but lacking piles of cash in the kitchen and couch cushions!
Another really interesting camera will be the 300D's replacement; at $780 (new w/ lens @ buydig.com). Assume Canon address the flash adjustment parameters, resolves some of the AF issues and ups the camera to 8MP - and $1000!!! I'm assuming it will have the same noise level, etc. For $1k more 10D owners could downgrade and the net-result would be an upgrade!!!
I'm really hoping Nikon updates their line-up. I've noticed the 2DH users here are pretty enthusiastic about the cameras. I could justify jumping ship for the right features & price combination.
1) Puts distance between the 300D and 10D, better product separation
2) Competes head-on with Nikon, Fuji and Pentax's 1.5x sensors.
I agree, 1.3x ain't happening on a $1500-$1800 body - but 1.5 might.
I think the more interesting rumor is the 3D based dSLR which has everything we're looking for (a common characteristic for good vapor-ware). 1.3x, 8MP 4-5 FPS, Eye Control. At $2000-$2500 this would be a great alternative to those of lusting after a 1DmkII but lacking piles of cash in the kitchen and couch cushions!
Another really interesting camera will be the 300D's replacement; at $780 (new w/ lens @ buydig.com). Assume Canon address the flash adjustment parameters, resolves some of the AF issues and ups the camera to 8MP - and $1000!!! I'm assuming it will have the same noise level, etc. For $1k more 10D owners could downgrade and the net-result would be an upgrade!!!
I'm really hoping Nikon updates their line-up. I've noticed the 2DH users here are pretty enthusiastic about the cameras. I could justify jumping ship for the right features & price combination.
Jul 23, 2004 at 03:18 AM
p.1 #2010d replacement information
I remember reading somewhere that Canon have a trend of releasing digital/film cameras in pairs - high end for one and mid/low end for the other. eg, 1D mkII & EOS 30v/e (Elan 7n/e)
As much as I'd love to see a 3D this year, if the trend continues I don't think it's going to happen. Rather, we will probably see a 10D/300D replacement along with a high end film camera, say, a 1 or 3 replacement.
As much as I'd love to see a 3D this year, if the trend continues I don't think it's going to happen. Rather, we will probably see a 10D/300D replacement along with a high end film camera, say, a 1 or 3 replacement.
Jul 23, 2004 at 03:55 AM