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S Dilworth
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p.15 #1 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


I saw the lens and performance proofs at Photokina, and I can assure you it rendered nothing like the 1.4/35 T* Distagon.

The truly info-starved can read my thoughts on my fledgling lens blog. (The ‘tomorrow’ referenced at the end hasn’t quite arrived! It will.)



Oct 01, 2012 at 04:13 PM
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Oct 01, 2012 at 04:24 PM
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p.15 #3 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


S Dilworth - Thank you for sharing your experience. This seems to be a very exciting lens.

Siddhu - I'm looking forward to see your pictures with this lens.



Oct 01, 2012 at 06:11 PM
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p.15 #4 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


S Dilworth, interesting and nice to read blog! looking forward to more...

"The ZF.2 model has a lockable aperture ring, partially covered in rubber."
What exactly does that mean? on the photos there is no aperture visible, or am I missing something?

on the next page about the 135, on the T* coating: "An English-language Zeiss brochure once boasted that the coatings suppressed ‘veiling glare, flare, and narcissism,’ proving you get more for your money with Zeiss".

narcissm? yeah!

edit: oh, I see the aperture ring now, it is visible on your first image.



Oct 01, 2012 at 06:58 PM
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p.15 #5 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


The development of 55/1.4 sounds interesting but any news on the new ZM guys


Oct 01, 2012 at 10:37 PM
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p.15 #6 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


atran wrote:
The development of 55/1.4 sounds interesting but any news on the new ZM guys


Last I heard someone from Zeiss said it wouldn't be announced until 2013



Oct 01, 2012 at 10:49 PM
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p.15 #7 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


S Dilworth, thanks for the article. Interesting read.

Only one point I don't understand,
with the requisite exception of the secondary f-number scale for Nikon's ancient Aperture Direct Readout system (I'm surprised the lens supports this)

What is nikons apenture direct readout system?


[edit] never mind, found it [/edit]



Oct 02, 2012 at 03:22 AM
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p.15 #8 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


If anyone else is wondering, Nikon’s Aperture Direct Readout (ADR) was an optical system for transmitting the selected f-number of a mounted lens to the viewfinder of supported cameras.

This is what it looks like on my Nikon FM2N, for example:

http://static.squarespace.com/static/500588eae4b0306d6cfd107c/t/506aab0fe4b099c2648b1672/1349167887717.jpg

The small lens on the underside of the prism housing is positioned to peer down on a second row of tiny f-numbers on Nikon lenses. Old Nikkors had various features designed to allow more ambient light to fall on these tiny numbers, to better illuminate them in the viewfinder ADR window (which was located just above the viewfinder image).

It actually worked fairly well, but at a manufacturing cost that would never fly today.

That the Distagon 1.4/55 features this secondary row of engraved f-numbers surprises me a little, because the lens is hardly likely to be popular with nostalgic F3 shooters! So why did Zeiss include it?

My guess is that Zeiss is either following an official AI-P lens specification from Nikon to the letter, i.e. they’re licensing the mount, or they’re being ultra-cautious in their reverse engineering just in case Nikon (or another F-mount camera maker) ever decides to use this feature for some unorthodox purpose in the future (the F-mount has a long history of unexpected uses for old features).

Thanks for your comments on the blog, all.



Oct 02, 2012 at 04:19 AM
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Siddhu wrote:
It's get's better, I'm testing it on a Nikon 800e and even though I'm shooting fashion I have not had any moire problems!


That is no compliment to the lens.












Oct 02, 2012 at 10:15 AM
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>>>That the Distagon 1.4/55 features this secondary row of engraved f-numbers surprises me a little, because the lens is hardly likely to be popular with nostalgic F3 shooters! So why did Zeiss include it?

My guess is that Zeiss is either following an official AI-P lens specification from Nikon to the letter, i.e. they’re licensing the mount, or they’re being ultra-cautious in their reverse engineering just in case Nikon (or another F-mount camera maker) ever decides to use this feature for some unorthodox purpose in the future (the F-mount has a long history of unexpected uses for old features).<<<

There may be phtographers out there, like myself, who want to throw this lens on their F2AS and see what this lens does to Velvia. Maybe not a lot of photographers, but I'm happy they thought of the film photogs. Can't wait for the wide angle version.




Oct 02, 2012 at 11:16 AM
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Toothwalker wrote:
That is no compliment to the lens.



That's what I was thinking.



Oct 02, 2012 at 11:39 AM
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p.15 #12 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


Yep, but I'm not chalking that up as a hit against the lens, rather against the review and perhaps the reviewer's credibility.



Oct 02, 2012 at 12:29 PM
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p.15 #13 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


http://chromaticabrasion.com/blog/2012/10/thoughts-zeiss-distagon-t-star-1-4-55-at-photokina-2012

Nice blog, Samuel.



Oct 03, 2012 at 10:36 AM
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p.15 #14 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


Thanks, Benjamin. Nice of you to say so.

carlitos wrote:
There may be photographers out there, like myself, who want to throw this lens on their F2AS and see what this lens does to Velvia. Maybe not a lot of photographers, but I'm happy they thought of the film photogs.


You’re right that a few people will use the lens on film (I bet it fairly etches an image into the emulsion!), but do you strictly need Aperture Direct Readout to do that? You could count clicks or take your eye away from the viewfinder to set the aperture, the way photographers did for over a century before Nikon gave them ADR.

Not that I’m against the inclusion of ADR support, mind you. I actually quite like it. It shows a certain respect for Nikon’s history that appeals to me. (But probably it’s just some heartless contractual obligation!)



Oct 03, 2012 at 03:19 PM
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AhamB wrote:
http://chromaticabrasion.com/blog/2012/10/thoughts-zeiss-distagon-t-star-1-4-55-at-photokina-2012

Nice blog, Samuel.


Will the new lens cover medium format?
Don’t be silly.


I really liked that part.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Oct 03, 2012 at 04:37 PM
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p.15 #16 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


Maybe Nikon will come up with a mirrorless FF version of a FE2, FM2 or FA and incorporate the ADR as a retro feature? - I'd love that


Oct 04, 2012 at 10:24 AM
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S Dilworth wrote:
Thanks, Benjamin. Nice of you to say so.

You’re right that a few people will use the lens on film (I bet it fairly etches an image into the emulsion!), but do you strictly need Aperture Direct Readout to do that? You could count clicks or take your eye away from the viewfinder to set the aperture, the way photographers did for over a century before Nikon gave them ADR.

Not that I’m against the inclusion of ADR support, mind you. I actually quite like it. It shows a certain respect for Nikon’s history that appeals to me. (But probably it’s
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Nope, you don't need the ADR, necessarily, but you do need the AI-s cam.



Oct 04, 2012 at 10:46 AM
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p.15 #18 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


BTW - Zeiss & Nikon have removed the aperture index "tab", so the earliest Nikon SLR you can use with the ZF2 and the 55/1.4 is the F2AS (possibly a Nikkormat).

Time moves on.



Oct 04, 2012 at 10:56 AM
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S Dilworth wrote:
Thanks, Benjamin. Nice of you to say so.

Yup, nice blog.


Concerning the new lens line, I wonder whether Zeiss has plans to employ the larger Canon mount to realize fancy designs not possible with Nikon. (I don't expect you to know the answer, I am just philosophizing.)



Oct 04, 2012 at 11:19 AM
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p.15 #20 · Zeiss: new lenses at photokina


Great blog indeed, I have bookmarked it!


Oct 04, 2012 at 03:22 PM
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