sebboh wrote:
they don't say that you can't make good lenses with stabilization, they just said they want to focus on maximizing image quality so they didn't include it. you guys are reading to much into this. adding image stabilization means adding another set of constraints to lens design, so for any given price point a lens designed with stabilization will have inferior image quality to one without. a more complex and expensive design is needed to reach the same level of optical quality. since wide angle lenses tend to be more complex designs the amount of price difference is almost certainly greater for equal stabilized versus unstabilized lenses....Show more →
Regarding the new fast ZM lens, I just got this response. Not sure what he did mean comparing with Zeiss blog.
Dear Mr. Truong,
Thank you for your inquiry to Carl Zeiss and your interest in our products.
Yes, we plan to announce a new fast ZM-lens within the next year. Further details will be published next year, such a lens will not be introduced at the Photokina 2012.
Hoping to be of service to you we kindly ask you to contact us again should you need further assistance.
ltruong8 wrote:
Regarding the new fast ZM lens, I just got this response. Not sure what he did mean comparing with Zeiss blog.
Dear Mr. Truong,
Thank you for your inquiry to Carl Zeiss and your interest in our products.
Yes, we plan to announce a new fast ZM-lens within the next year. Further details will be published next year, such a lens will not be introduced at the Photokina 2012.
Hoping to be of service to you we kindly ask you to contact us again should you need further assistance.
The 55/1.4 is at least the same size as the ZA 135/1.8, probably larger. I really would love the best quality but not at the price of slipped disks, and 3000 euros.
edwardkaraa wrote:
The new super duber übermensch, hmm, überobjektive line announced:
I'm really surprised at the lack of chatter here. Is everyone tired or just broke?
Zeiss say this new family begins with 3 primes. Any guesses what the other 2 might be?
I suppose 55mm is a critical length for studio/fashion work and I'm guessing an 85 is likely and would hope the other is a 35 but its just the roll of a dice.
OneAnt wrote:
I'm really surprised at the lack of chatter here. Is everyone tired or just broke?
Zeiss say this new family begins with 3 primes. Any guesses what the other 2 might be?
I suppose 55mm is a critical length for studio/fashion work and I'm guessing an 85 is likely and would hope the other is a 35 but its just the roll of a dice.
Ant.
I think it's because the guys who were nagging for the super lenses from Zeiss realized they can't afford them
Prices around 3000€, corner to corner sharpness, high resolution, very low CA.
I know many of you demanded this kind of performance, now show us your money
This is getting insane.. 3000 for a manual focus lens to be used on an SLR which is not mainly design for MF lenses. My 35 f/2 and 100 f/2 was sharp enough, its me who lets them down by not getting the exact focus when shooting wide open. I think I'll past, very interesting but no thanks.
OneAnt wrote:
I'm really surprised at the lack of chatter here. Is everyone tired or just broke?
Zeiss say this new family begins with 3 primes. Any guesses what the other 2 might be?
I suppose 55mm is a critical length for studio/fashion work and I'm guessing an 85 is likely and would hope the other is a 35 but its just the roll of a dice.
Ant.
I think it has to do with the huge amount of nice news we got. Leica M, Schneider 35 and 50/1.4, Zeiss nex lenses ect.
Nevertheless great news. Don't use SLR's now, but a D800 with this 55mm looks temping.
OneAnt wrote:
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I'm really surprised at the lack of chatter here. Is everyone tired or just broke?
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No, you guys are the only ones not on the Zeiss booth at the Photokina fair!
I am there on Friday.
I think most - like me - would not want to spend that much money for another hobby lens.
But I am happy and eager to see the new lenses - professional interest because on my job these lenses could be helpfull.
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OneAnt wrote:
I'm really surprised at the lack of chatter here. Is everyone tired or just broke?
Zeiss say this new family begins with 3 primes. Any guesses what the other 2 might be?
I suppose 55mm is a critical length for studio/fashion work and I'm guessing an 85 is likely and would hope the other is a 35 but its just the roll of a dice.
Ant.
I am guessing the other two will be an 85 (and I bet they haven't decided on f/1.2 or f/1.4 yet so that is part of the reason it isn't announced) and I think a 28 rather than a 35. The reason I make this suggestion is the Z* 35 f/1.4 is a relatively new design and a great performer, but the 28 is still based on the old CZ 28 and doesn't have any special glass. I am betting it could be substantially improved. An improved version might even be highly desirable as a video lens too. Just my guess.
For me I will get the 55 eventually, but only if it is as good as the Leica M Aspherical 50 summilux. To me that lens is worth $3,500 as it is that much better than anything else out there. If the Zeiss is that good too, then I think it would be worth it. I might get the 85 as well, but I would be less inclined there because there are a lot of extremely good short teles and few are anywhere near this price. Finally, if I am right and the third lens is a 28, I wouldn't bother. I like the 35 f/1.4 a lot and I can't see needing a better lens.
So now that we have all acclimated to the ~1500 euro lens price Zeiss offers uncompromised image quality for 3000 euro. It's hard to imagine what kind of performance some of these will offer. I guess the CA and distortion should be pretty much non-existent? Edge to edge performance @f/1.2 sounds like a neat trick.
I'm interested to see the other 2 lenses. It's not until fall next year, so there is plenty of time to save up (hopefully for a 28mm or 24mm 1.4). I already have a very good 55mm.
Steve Spencer wrote:
I am guessing the other two will be an 85 (and I bet they haven't decided on f/1.2 or f/1.4 yet so that is part of the reason it isn't announced) and I think a 28 rather than a 35. The reason I make this suggestion is the Z* 35 f/1.4 is a relatively new design and a great performer, but the 28 is still based on the old CZ 28 and doesn't have any special glass. I am betting it could be substantially improved. An improved version might even be highly desirable as a video lens too. Just my guess.
For me I will get the 55 eventually, but only if it is as good as the Leica M Aspherical 50 summilux. To me that lens is worth $3,500 as it is that much better than anything else out there. If the Zeiss is that good too, then I think it would be worth it. I might get the 85 as well, but I would be less inclined there because there are a lot of extremely good short teles and few are anywhere near this price. Finally, if I am right and the third lens is a 28, I wouldn't bother. I like the 35 f/1.4 a lot and I can't see needing a better lens. ...Show more →
I was also thinking 28mm. It's an under represented focal length in terms of high performance lenses, not only from Zeiss, but also all the other SLR manufacturers.
It's interesting that Zeiss state in that blog post that a physical/mechanical aperture ring is technically not feasible with this design, implying it's not just the EF but also F mount that will lack on-lens aperture control (as seen in the photo of the lens on a Nikon body)
As far as the 50 Lux ASPH is concerned, it really is a very good lens, but does lose some technical brilliance at near distances with a pretty wavy MTF which influences non-central image quality wide open. I'm more interested to see how this new Zeiss compares agains the new 50 Cron AA. While it's an f/2 lens, it seems to be technically spectacular. With the new M it will now be possible to do direct comparison of SLR vs. M lenses...
At least for me, the biggest turn off of the new Zeiss is the size.
I think it's not possible to fit those into the smaller throat size of the Nikon mount (well maybe that's why we have a Distagon 55mm). And I would pay Leica price if they actually make that 28/1.2 ... Can't wait till next year.
edwardkaraa wrote:
I think it's because the guys who were nagging for the super lenses from Zeiss realized they can't afford them
it's more fun to pick at little flaws than to praise perfection.
i have the same problem with this lens i have with the ZF line – to big. if i do end up throwing down that kinda cash it'll be for a rangefinder lens. i'm excited to see how this performs though.
... Can't wait till next year.