p.6 #1 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
n0b0 wrote:
Video in dslr is infinitely more useful than those stupid daytime running lights you see on modern cars.
As a motorcyclist i'm a bit fan of using headlights during the day. The fact the it annoys you means it has resulted in increased awareness on your part.
p.6 #2 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
15Bit wrote:
As a motorcyclist i'm a bit fan of using headlights during the day. The fact the it annoys you means it has resulted in increased awareness on your part.
They don't annoy me, I just think they're stupid and a waste of money. If you don't notice a car behind you in broad daylight, It's called negligence and you shouldn't have the privilege of being on the road.
p.6 #3 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
n0b0 wrote:
They don't annoy me, I just think they're stupid and a waste of money. If you don't notice a car behind you in broad daylight, It's called negligence and you shouldn't have the privilege of being on the road.
Yes, day time running lights. Terrible. Or maybe great. And I think I'll have another hot dog. Hot dogs are good. Especially in summer. And isn't summer ending soon? I guess I'll have to get some warmer clothes. I wonder if a sweater would be nice? A red sweater. I love red...
p.6 #4 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
Steve Torelli wrote:
Dan,
My point is that video doesn't have anything to do with photography..
As a still photographer who does not do video, I learn a lot about visual perception and even get shooting ideas from movies and video. Seems to me that the two media actually have quite a bit in common.
p.6 #5 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
gdanmitchell wrote:
Yes, day time running lights. Terrible. Or maybe great. And I think I'll have another hot dog. Hot dogs are good. Especially in summer. And isn't summer ending soon? I guess I'll have to get some warmer clothes. I wonder if a sweater would be nice? A red sweater. I love red...
Wait a minute, what were we talking about?
;-)
Dan
It's spring for us downunder. And I'm sure going off topic here doesn't hurt this thread one bit. After all, we're just going back and forth about something that Noone will agree on.
p.6 #6 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
n0b0 wrote:
They don't annoy me, I just think they're stupid and a waste of money. If you don't notice a car behind you in broad daylight, It's called negligence and you shouldn't have the privilege of being on the road.
they also help for two lane highways and have been shown to catch attention of oncoming cars, but i you want someone with their mind wandering/etc. to ram you head on....
it doesn't matter a whit whether someone does something they shouldn't and takes their eye of the road or shouldn't be driving if their mind wanders, etc. if they smack you head on you've still been smashed head on whether they should have done that or been able to do that to you or not
if someone helps someone notice you before slicing into you lane from whatever direction, that is all good no?
and certain color cars under certain lighting/weather sometimes don't stick out so well
p.6 #7 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
skibum5 wrote:
they also help for two lane highways and have been shown to catch attention of oncoming cars, but i you want someone with their mind wandering/etc. to ram you head on....
it doesn't matter a whit whether someone does something they shouldn't and takes their eye of the road or shouldn't be driving if their mind wanders, etc. if they smack you head on you've still been smashed head on whether they should have done that or been able to do that to you or not
if someone helps someone notice you before slicing into you lane from whatever direction, that is all good no?
and certain color cars under certain lighting/weather sometimes don't stick out so well ...Show more →
It takes more than a wandering mind to not notice that you're drifting towards incoming traffic. Usually happens if the driver takes his eyes off the road, in which case he wouldn't have seen any light coming towards him.
Then there's another driving crutch that completely voids your argument, It's called lane departure warning system. For those who don't like to pay attention or simply unable to stay in their lane.
p.6 #8 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
I would point out that a lane departure warning system might work where you are, but in places where the road is covered with snow for several months of the year its a bit useless.
I agree that driving standards should be higher, but they aren't. And the solution to this - to make all drivers regularly retake extended driving tests - is completely unworkable (not to mention unpopular). Having lights on all the time is a little thing, but one that genuinely improves the ability for other road users to see each other. You'll find few on two wheels who don't do it.
And if you are worried about economic and environmental impact of the extra 120W of power you are using, turn down your aircon or drive 1mph slower...
p.6 #9 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
For motorcycles it's mandatory for the light to be on all the time, at least where I am. That's because they usually do what we call "lane splitting", and unlike cars, sometimes they're harder to spot.
Like I said, takes more than a wandering mind to miss the average car around 1.7m wide and 4m long, you gotta be texting or doing something you're not suppose to while driving. In that case, you're gonna need a damn spotlight pointing straight at you to notice it, not a bunch of puny DRL LEDs.
I'm not worried about anything, I just think they're a useless cosmetic junk for cars, that's all. Much more useless than video in modern DSLRs... Which brings me to my next point.
If we can't agree on something as trivial as a pack of LEDs on a car, somehow I doubt we'll agree on whether video should be available on a DSLR.
p.6 #11 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
n0b0 wrote:
Like I said, takes more than a wandering mind to miss the average car around 1.7m wide and 4m long, you gotta be texting or doing something you're not suppose to while driving. In that case, you're gonna need a damn spotlight pointing straight at you to notice it, not a bunch of puny DRL LEDs.
Yes. Or maybe no. And that's why video is important to me in a DSLR. Or, wait, maybe it isn't important.
p.6 #12 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
Steve Torelli wrote:
Dan,
My point is that video doesn't have anything to do with photography and the fact that the current DSLRs with video are the best photographic tools there are is coincidental.
Adding video is the one thing the camera companies have done that has nothing to do with photography. If they liked it once they'll love it twice so I'm afraid they'll start throwing in a lot of extraneous stuff to justify selling you a new camera every three years or so.
Look, I'm not trying to tell anybody what they should do. And we're not all going to agree, some people want all the doodads that the company can put on whether they'll ever use them or not. Others like to keep things simple like myself. But, IMHO, cameras are getting more and more sophisticated which is fine. I just think they should stay with what got 'em there.
This is a bit of a straw-man I think. They haven't added some random piece of technology to a camera in order to get video. They have a sensor that takes images for a set time period, all they have done is allowed the software to capture a time-lapse photo 24/30/60 times per second until you decide to stop capturing. They haven't added something different to the camera, just enhanced a certain functionality and used existing hardware to achieve two goals instead of one.
How does that take anything away from still photography? Why does a camera have to follow a purists view of the technology? Is a camera part of a spiritual connection you have with the old masters, if so I agree with others that have suggested traditional film and LF view cameras.
p.6 #13 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
Zero value 99% of the time.
The 1% of time I do you it, priceless. I capture family video moments just because I already had the camera in hand/near me and the kiddo decides to do something uber sweet.
In the past 6 months, this has happened only twice. These two videos I will cherish forever. And no, phone video would not have worked well. (One situation, it was very dark, in another situation, I didnt have phone one me as we were in YSNP on vacation and battery was low)
p.6 #14 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
15Bit wrote:
I would point out that a lane departure warning system might work where you are, but in places where the road is covered with snow for several months of the year its a bit useless.
I agree that driving standards should be higher, but they aren't. And the solution to this - to make all drivers regularly retake extended driving tests - is completely unworkable (not to mention unpopular). Having lights on all the time is a little thing, but one that genuinely improves the ability for other road users to see each other. You'll find few on two wheels who don't do it.
And if you are worried about economic and environmental impact of the extra 120W of power you are using, turn down your aircon or drive 1mph slower......Show more →
and no amount of driving tests will prevent the odd times someone drives with lesser sleep or in some upset state etc.
and they really have found that head lights really do grab attention, even from the corner of the eye
p.6 #20 · How important is video in a DSLR to you ?
I could care less about video in my DSLR.....I bought it for stills....Perhaps if they ever get the AF and aperture controls similar to still use I'd be more inclined to use it
