Probably because it's an entry-level FX camera. My guess is Nikon is probably going to have three lines in the DX and FX arenas.
Intro, Enthusiast, Flagship (or D600, D800, D4)
What it will be for the DX arena is up to anyone to guess...the entry level is the D3200, the enthusiast will probably be the replacement to the D7K, and then the D400 will probably be their Flagship DX camera.
1/4000 isn't bad. You can always use CPLs and ND filters if you need to kill more ambient.
I've been able to freeze bees wings at 1/250 f/8 with flash and only a CPL, and that's shooting into straight sunlight. 1/4000 is not a huge limit.
What I'm looking forward to is playing around with video at a cheaper price than the D3s and the D800.
leighton w wrote:
Well, this thread got a little off topic, imagine that.
But since it is, I have to say after seeing the latest specs on the D600, that it's no longer on my list. I simply cannot live with a maximum of 1/4000 shutter speed.
I was honestly looking hard at it too, even with the 39pt AF, but this was a killer for me. The next body I get will be an ISO100 base and 1/8000 shutter speed. I wouldn't use it much, but it is really nice to have in bright sunny places and for strobist work.
As it is, I will keep using my D700 and all of my film bodies with infinite MF points and whatever base ISO I choose.
huddy wrote:
I was honestly looking hard at it too, even with the 39pt AF, but this was a killer for me. The next body I get will be an ISO100 base and 1/8000 shutter speed. I wouldn't use it much, but it is really nice to have in bright sunny places and for strobist work.
As it is, I will keep using my D700 and all of my film bodies with infinite MF points and whatever base ISO I choose.
I'm sorry to disappoint you Alan, but the rumoured specs say "only" 1/4000
It seems to me an ideal body for MF-lenses.
To be honest. As far I remember I used 1/8000th two times the last 4 years. And just because I wanted to shoot wide open (1.4). 1/4000th would not be a point to keep me away from this body. More important (for me): How is IQ at ISO 12.800? I am pretty sure it will be better than D800s. But even if not and it is only same I imagine I would this body give a try.
M635_Guy wrote:
I want one, too, but in my opinion they'll sell a LOT more D600's than they would a D400.
I have to disagree. A pro caliber DX body will sell better because more people out there have DX bodies and lenses than FX. Maybe not true of the FM croud, but true of Nikon photogs in general.
The D7K is $1K and the rumored D600 is expected at $2K which leaves a HUGE price point hole that Canon is filling nicely with the 7D. Enter the D400 at $1500.
The typical consumer that wants to upgrade to pro performance AF and FPS will go for a D400 DX body at $1500 that makes the most of all their existing DX lenses long before they make the jump to a $2K D600 body that will require them to outlay a bunch of money in new glass to boot. There are also a large number of advanced enthusiests and pros that want a pro-calliber DX body replacement for the D300s.
Andre -- The D2X and D2H were probably the last two pro-DX cameras Nikon will ever make.
You have a choice of the D3200 or probably an improved version of the D7000. Perhaps a semi-pro D400 will arrive, but it won't be a true pro camera.
Frankly, I'll be surprised if Canon reissues the semi-pro 7D, but maybe so. It's just so "yesterday's news" and would really have to pack some new features to compete with the T4i.
The market seems to be full frame for pro use (and used FF for many entering), and crop for entry level and enthusiast. The biggest market draw these days is the mirrorless, and Nikon is probably looking at a beefier model than the "1".
Gunzorro wrote:
Andre -- The D2X and D2H were probably the last two pro-DX cameras Nikon will ever make.
You have a choice of the D3200 or probably an improved version of the D7000. Perhaps a semi-pro D400 will arrive, but it won't be a true pro camera.
Frankly, I'll be surprised if Canon reissues the semi-pro 7D, but maybe so. It's just so "yesterday's news" and would really have to pack some new features to compete with the T4i.
The market seems to be full frame for pro use (and used FF for many entering), and crop for entry level and enthusiast. The biggest market draw these days is the mirrorless, and Nikon is probably looking at a beefier model than the "1". ...Show more →
Andre Labonte wrote:
I have to disagree. A pro caliber DX body will sell better because more people out there have DX bodies and lenses than FX. Maybe not true of the FM croud, but true of Nikon photogs in general.
The D7K is $1K and the rumored D600 is expected at $2K which leaves a HUGE price point hole that Canon is filling nicely with the 7D. Enter the D400 at $1500.
The typical consumer that wants to upgrade to pro performance AF and FPS will go for a D400 DX body at $1500 that makes the most of all their existing DX lenses long before they make the jump to a $2K D600 body that will require them to outlay a bunch of money in new glass to boot. There are also a large number of advanced enthusiests and pros that want a pro-calliber DX body replacement for the D300s. ...Show more →
As a product management guy, we're going to have to agree to disagree. This isn't about them protecting DX lens investments, it is about moving the serious amateurs up to an FX platform. New price point, they'll buy FX lenses, put pressure on Canon, etc. Look how many D7K owners are salivating at the idea of an FX camera with the D7000 handling.
The D400 crowd doesn't care about the D600 for the most part (including me). I'm hoping it is just a best-kept secret and that the D300s replacement is coming...
I agree that if they launch a D600 for $1500 - $1800 it will be huge and much bigger than a D400 launch. A small affordable FX camera is going to attract DX upgraders, Canon users, and possibly prevent adopters to other formats (like m43). Right now someone looking at a D7000 could be thinking about m43 since image quality isn't too different. But an FX camera would clearly give better images and if the price and size are not much more t will be attractive to some.
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