Clear Zoom to my understanding is actually using some sort of algorithm to try to generate additional pixels in a manner that preserves details rather than just doing a basic bicubic uprez.
The digital zoom (IMHO always useless save for if its a really tricky scene to meter and you know you will heavily crop in post, which lets me honest, probably doesn't happen much) is no better than simply cropping the image as all its doing is giving effective reach at cost of resolution.
I was skeptical of CZ at first but figured I'd give it a try and now I keep it on when doing casual shooting. Results are better of course less your zoomed in, but CZ, along with simply having 20megs of resolution to start with really does allow the RX100 to punch above its weight as far as being limited by a 100mm zoom goes. Realistically I'm finding I can get nearly the same overall quality out of somewhat cropped and CZ images at 200mm equiv as I can get using smaller sensored 101-2meg travel zooms at equiv focal lengths.
This is pretty fantastic because it really adds to the ways I can use my RX100 and cameras it can replace.
Used at 28mm equiv and f1.8-f2.0 its just exceptional and gives me some quite impressive IQ that can stand up to nearly all my imaging needs
Used within its optical range up to 100mm its still as good for casual shooting as results I've gotten for my older 12meg m4/3 cameras with slower kit zooms
Used up to 10x zoom it still gives me IQ on par, and sometimes better than what I can get from my Panasonic ZS7 and similar travel zooms, save of course for the extreme focal lengths some can now produce, and which I frankly never really find myself using.
absolutic wrote:
Great job! I unlocked the clear zoom feature and turned off the digital zoom feature in my RX100, and waiting to use it. Looks like clear zoom makes it 7X zoom at 20PM, and over 10X zoom at 10MP, and I think 14X zoom at 5MP. Of course some people will say that one can simply crop in pp, but apparently clear zoom is something else. I am waiting for an opportunity to try it. I would appreciate more example with use of Optical Clear Zoom
millsart wrote:
Clear Zoom to my understanding is actually using some sort of algorithm to try to generate additional pixels in a manner that preserves details rather than just doing a basic bicubic uprez.
The digital zoom (IMHO always useless save for if its a really tricky scene to meter and you know you will heavily crop in post, which lets me honest, probably doesn't happen much) is no better than simply cropping the image as all its doing is giving effective reach at cost of resolution.
I was skeptical of CZ at first but figured I'd give it a try and now I keep it on when doing casual shooting. Results are better of course less your zoomed in, but CZ, along with simply having 20megs of resolution to start with really does allow the RX100 to punch above its weight as far as being limited by a 100mm zoom goes. Realistically I'm finding I can get nearly the same overall quality out of somewhat cropped and CZ images at 200mm equiv as I can get using smaller sensored 101-2meg travel zooms at equiv focal lengths.
This is pretty fantastic because it really adds to the ways I can use my RX100 and cameras it can replace.
Used at 28mm equiv and f1.8-f2.0 its just exceptional and gives me some quite impressive IQ that can stand up to nearly all my imaging needs
Used within its optical range up to 100mm its still as good for casual shooting as results I've gotten for my older 12meg m4/3 cameras with slower kit zooms
Used up to 10x zoom it still gives me IQ on par, and sometimes better than what I can get from my Panasonic ZS7 and similar travel zooms, save of course for the extreme focal lengths some can now produce, and which I frankly never really find myself using.
Well, the reason I was inquiring, is that the most obvious use I can think of is concert photography. Quite often you cannot bring a large camera to these events, but they are almost always ok with a little point-and-shoot. I used to use Panasonic Travelzooms like ZS7, I also used Sony HV9, and I've used Panasonic GF1 m4/3 (my wife would sneak in a 45-200 lens for Panasonic in a sunglasses case). I got some decent results with all of these, but having plenty of zoom is a major requirement for those photographing from the seats. I wish I could you RX100...Show more →
Ultrapix and Ron, thank you for the compliments Ron, your experience and contributions as a real life photog has been amazing within these forums! Still would love to see your shots with the RX100
absolutic, very nice focus on the eyes
James, the detail in the shot is quick amazing for a P&S!!
millsart wrote:
Najibs, your certainly getting some excellent results out of it, any secrets to share as to your workflow with the RX100 files ?
I just import the JPEGs into LR4 (which does some decent JPEG tweaks still) and give it a very slight color boost, increase a tiny bit of clarity, and that's about it.
Najibs, great photos; converted in BW and printed on some fine art paper, they would look like vintage prints from the best american school.
BTW, I agree to let them in colors, telling today's story, though through a "traditional" eye
I tried the RX100's in-camera HDR function a few days ago, while waiting at a hotel for others to arrive. I've done HDR's via post processing, but had never used any in-camera HDR function. This one was at the "3" setting for HDR. Wish I'd tried other settings, especially lower, but I was just playing around. To be honest, didn't really expect anything worth keeping. I'll certainly be trying more HDR's with this RX100 now.
Impressive. I shoot interior for job, and I still have two Sinar Norma 4x5 and 5x7; to get a shoot like this, that could easily fit a mid gamma commercial catalogue, was a nightmare just a few years ago
ultrapix wrote:
Impressive. I shoot interior for job, and I still have two Sinar Norma 4x5 and 5x7; to get a shoot like this, that could easily fit a mid gamma commercial catalogue, was a nightmare just a few years ago
! I used to haul 4x5's around, many years ago. You're right, this is impressive, especially for a camera that I pulled from my pocket!
Even more impressive: I wasn't even trying for a good shot. This was hand-held, in Aperture priority mode, with no EV compensation. The base exposure was right on, first try.
That's quite an impressive HDR shot from the RX100. Question: since this "auto HDR" works in JPEG files only what if you have the camera set on RAW + JPEG? If that is selected can you turn on HDR and of course only have it apply the three shot technique to the JPEG file but still record a RAW file simultaneously?
I know PS & LR don't support the RX100 RAW file yet - but they will soon.
That's quite an impressive HDR shot from the RX100. Question: since this "auto HDR" works in JPEG files only what if you have the camera set on RAW + JPEG? If that is selected can you turn on HDR and of course only have it apply the three shot technique to the JPEG file but still record a RAW file simultaneously?
I know PS & LR don't support the RX100 RAW file yet - but they will soon.
Thx
tarheel
It does not work with RAW+JPEG, unfortunately. I ended up storing the settings for HDR in one of the memory recall channels, so at least it's quick to select that to change to JPEG only, and set it to HDR.
Like a lot of others, I'm anxious to see RAW support from Adobe. I hear DxO will also have it this month.
Ron, your experience and contributions as a real life photog has been amazing within these forums! Still would love to see your shots with the RX100
! I used to haul 4x5's around, many years ago. You're right, this is impressive, especially for a camera that I pulled from my pocket!