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p.1 #1 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


Has anyone done micro adjustments on their 5D3 yet? Are you way off 0?

I performed MA on my old 5D2 and I have to say most of my L lenses were at 0 out of the box with no adjustments and the one lens that wasn't I sent back to Canon for adjustment. I use the live-view method.

Now w/ the new 5D3, i'm noticing its not at 0. I find it a PITA if I'm going to have to go back adjusting all the lenses to this new body.

The new 5D3 has more options (I have to go read the manual) with a W and a T adjustment. I'm noticing I'm consistently back focusing.... Typically at -10 T. I thought about sending it back but who knows when I'm going to get a replacement or send it to canon.

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Eric

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Apr 16, 2012 at 12:01 PM
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p.1 #2 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


I've noticed it too. My 24-105 was pretty good on my 5DII with no MA, but now needs 0 (W) and -7 (T) on the 5DIII. However, my 85L doesn't need MA on either body, so that's strange.

-Mike




Apr 16, 2012 at 12:07 PM
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p.1 #3 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


DarthMTS47 wrote:
I've noticed it too. My 24-105 was pretty good on my 5DII with no MA, but now needs 0 (W) and -7 (T) on the 5DIII. However, my 85L doesn't need MA on either body, so that's strange.

-Mike




Interesting, I have to go back and test my 85L again. It was 0 on my 5D2. I don't remember what it is on the 5D3 except I have to adjust it.....

Thanks,
Eric



Apr 16, 2012 at 12:11 PM
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p.1 #4 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


My lenses barely needed adjustment on the 5D Mark II and the same goes for the 5D Mark III. I would consider any adjustement within +- 10 to be normal and anything beyond +-15 although annoying, is still acceptable. Anything more than 15... well, fortunately, none of my lenses required anything more than normal. To be frank, if it is +- 2-3 or so, I left it to 0 and I didn't bother adjusting.


Apr 16, 2012 at 12:14 PM
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p.1 #5 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


rick5 wrote:
I find it a PITA if I'm going to have to go back adjusting all the lenses to this new body.



I don't see that as being unique to the 5D Mk3. You would probably have to do it to any new body.



Apr 16, 2012 at 12:22 PM
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Imagemaster wrote:
I don't see that as being unique to the 5D Mk3. You would probably have to do it to any new body.



Qc check with each new body to make sure it's at 0.... Yes, thats quick. The fine adjustment each lens and test when all the lenses are off, that takes a while.

-eric



Apr 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM
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p.1 #7 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


Canon, like any other camera/lens manufacturers, based this aspect on tolerance levels. As long as they work within tolerance levels, both camera bodies and lenses, that's fine. We are talking about mass produced items here and not precision laboratory instruments that will have to be individually calibrated. I think you need to put that into perspective.


Apr 16, 2012 at 01:00 PM
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p.1 #8 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


I had a 5D3 that I returned because of a problem with SD card interface. That body and the replacement that I got were/are both dead on with a bunch of zooms and primes, the only exception so far being a 135L that required a similar MA on my 5D2 and 1D4.

Your body may be out of calibration, but I'd first try doing an "all lenses" MA with a lens that had been at 0 with your 5D2. Then see if the other lenses line up without individual MA.



Apr 16, 2012 at 01:01 PM
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p.1 #9 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


All of my other bodies have required MA to some extent but not on the 5D MK3 so far. I haven't calibrated all of them yet but I guess the difference between bodies gives reason to have a MA function.

Jim



Apr 16, 2012 at 01:03 PM
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p.1 #10 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


MA numbers can be very different between bodies, even if it is the same sort of body. The numbers are not transferable between bodies:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1099993



Apr 16, 2012 at 01:09 PM
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p.1 #11 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


All my lenses are microadjusted using LensCal. My 35L is at +4, my 24-105L is at something like +3W and +5T, my 70-200 II at +3 and +5 or something... Nothing high though, just small tweaks to maximize IQ.




Apr 16, 2012 at 02:11 PM
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p.1 #12 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


What is with this W and T adjustments? Can you adjust the wide and tele end of zooms seperately? If so, does it work well?


Apr 16, 2012 at 02:15 PM
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p.1 #13 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


i've had almost no lenses on any body be best at 0

i think 300 2.8 IS + 2.0 TC III + 7D is the only combo, ever



Apr 16, 2012 at 02:31 PM
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p.1 #14 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


AGeoJO wrote:
My lenses barely needed adjustment on the 5D Mark II and the same goes for the 5D Mark III. I would consider any adjustement within +- 10 to be normal and anything beyond +-15 although annoying, is still acceptable. Anything more than 15... well, fortunately, none of my lenses required anything more than normal. To be frank, if it is +- 2-3 or so, I left it to 0 and I didn't bother adjusting.


if you are shooting with longer lenses, 2-3 steps off can radically reduce your take, especially for sports of wildlife
even 1 step can make a noticeable difference



Apr 16, 2012 at 02:32 PM
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p.1 #15 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


Daan B wrote:
What is with this W and T adjustments? Can you adjust the wide and tele end of zooms seperately? If so, does it work well?


Yes, you can now with the 5D Mark III. How well? I have not had the need for that but I am sure it comes in handy in some cases.



Apr 16, 2012 at 02:34 PM
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p.1 #16 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


skibum5 wrote:
if you are shooting with longer lenses, 2-3 steps off can radically reduce your take, especially for sports of wildlife
even 1 step can make a noticeable difference


So far, I haven't seen any difference and I consider that as within the tolerance level. I am really not fretting about that at all.



Apr 16, 2012 at 02:42 PM
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p.1 #17 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


AGeoJO wrote:
Yes, you can now with the 5D Mark III. How well? I have not had the need for that but I am sure it comes in handy in some cases.


Sounds promising in theory. I remember the days when adjusting a zoom lens at the tele end, only to find out it was off at the wide and (and vice versa).



Apr 16, 2012 at 03:08 PM
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p.1 #18 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


AGeoJO wrote:
My lenses barely needed adjustment on the 5D Mark II and the same goes for the 5D Mark III. I would consider any adjustement within +- 10 to be normal and anything beyond +-15 although annoying, is still acceptable. Anything more than 15... well, fortunately, none of my lenses required anything more than normal. To be frank, if it is +- 2-3 or so, I left it to 0 and I didn't bother adjusting.


+1

Mine required the same adjustment as on my 5D2 which was nothing or not far from it. +6 was the largest and that was the 24 1.4 L II.



Apr 16, 2012 at 07:25 PM
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p.1 #19 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


I just upgraded to Fo-Cal Pro and did most of my glass this weekend except for the big whites..
24L 1.4ll ~ 35L 1.4 ~ 50L 1.2 ~ 85L 1.2ll ~ 100L 2.8ll ~ 135L 2.0 ~ 16-35L ~24-105L . 70-200L 2.8ll
It's a duly process as Fo-Cal does not support auto on the 5DMKlll so each lens requires at least 8-10 steps.. anyways bottom line is ...none ma'd at 0. Also none ma'd at 0 on my 5DMKll either except the 300L 2.8 and 200L 2.0. The 500L 4.0 I've never tried.

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Apr 16, 2012 at 09:53 PM
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p.1 #20 · Canon 5D MK3 microadjustments


MMMmmm 5DmkIV Whats it like?

Your only going to get a MA of 0 if your lens and body are both perfectly at the ideal spec. Tolerances arnt tight enough to achieve this, prices are WAY too low to offer that level of accuracy.



Apr 16, 2012 at 09:57 PM
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