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p.4 #1f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
Bifurcator wrote:
What's the deal with the string in those top two shots Lars?
It's some kind of blessing and good luck string. it often goes from the golden Buddha statue and holy water trough the hands of all the monks. You can see it everywhere in Thailand. And if you go into a temple and the monks bless you. They will take a piece of that white string and attach around your wrist. And you will keep it until it fall off. It's for good luck.
What's the deal with the string in those top two shots Lars?
It's some kind of blessing and good luck string. it often goes from the golden Buddha statue and holy water trough the hands of all the monks. You can see it everywhere in Thailand. And if you go into a temple and the monks bless you. They will take a piece of that white string and attach around your wrist. And you will keep it until it fall off. It's for good luck.
Apr 14, 2012 at 11:17 AM
p.4 #2f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
fantastic shots Lars!
thanks for the comparison efgm!
some shots from the FL 55/1.2 on 4/3:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5043/5368900361_2771812880_o.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5288/5255268582_79747a0975_o.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2797/4497127418_fd75b6f1b9_b.jpg
thanks for the comparison efgm!
some shots from the FL 55/1.2 on 4/3:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5043/5368900361_2771812880_o.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5288/5255268582_79747a0975_o.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2797/4497127418_fd75b6f1b9_b.jpg
Apr 14, 2012 at 12:31 PM
p.4 #3f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
incredible images Lars!
For older fast 50ish mm lenses, Walter E. Schön's Colorfoto article offers some comparisons. The lower the number the better the quality,
Comparisons
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52809064/compare%2050%201.2.jpg
Data and charts
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52809064/50er1.jpg
A summary of the test. Scores smaller the better.
Lenses tested-----------------------f/1.2 -----f/2.8 -----f/5.6 -----Average
Pentax SMC 50mm f/1.2 --------101 -------77 ---------50 --------228
Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 ------116 -------73 ---------49 --------238
Canon FD 55mm f/1.2 ----------117 -------82 ---------45 --------244
Minolta MD Rokkor 50mmf/1.2 -117 -------75 ---------54 --------246
Canon FD 55mm AL f/1.2 -------117 -------84 ---------51 --------252
Yashica ML 55mm f/1.2 --------124 -------90 ---------51 --------265
Olympus Zuiko 55mm f/1.2 -----125 -------90 ---------60 --------275
Nicon Noct-Nikkor 58mm f/1.2 -158 ------107 ---------52 --------317
Leitz Noctilux 50mm f/1.0 ----152 -------97 ---------67 --------316
Konica Hexar 57mm f/1.2 ------166 ------129 ---------58 --------353
(summary and comparison chart jpeg taken from http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1041&thread=35994153&page=2; data and charts from http://www.systemkamera-forum.de/sony-nex-objektive/12158-vergleich-von-lichtstarken-50mm.html)
For older fast 50ish mm lenses, Walter E. Schön's Colorfoto article offers some comparisons. The lower the number the better the quality,
Comparisons
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52809064/compare%2050%201.2.jpg
Data and charts
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52809064/50er1.jpg
A summary of the test. Scores smaller the better.
Lenses tested-----------------------f/1.2 -----f/2.8 -----f/5.6 -----Average
Pentax SMC 50mm f/1.2 --------101 -------77 ---------50 --------228
Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 ------116 -------73 ---------49 --------238
Canon FD 55mm f/1.2 ----------117 -------82 ---------45 --------244
Minolta MD Rokkor 50mmf/1.2 -117 -------75 ---------54 --------246
Canon FD 55mm AL f/1.2 -------117 -------84 ---------51 --------252
Yashica ML 55mm f/1.2 --------124 -------90 ---------51 --------265
Olympus Zuiko 55mm f/1.2 -----125 -------90 ---------60 --------275
Nicon Noct-Nikkor 58mm f/1.2 -158 ------107 ---------52 --------317
Leitz Noctilux 50mm f/1.0 ----152 -------97 ---------67 --------316
Konica Hexar 57mm f/1.2 ------166 ------129 ---------58 --------353
(summary and comparison chart jpeg taken from http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1041&thread=35994153&page=2; data and charts from http://www.systemkamera-forum.de/sony-nex-objektive/12158-vergleich-von-lichtstarken-50mm.html)
Apr 14, 2012 at 12:41 PM
p.4 #5f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
Minolta Rokkor 58/1.2 on EOS 5D, with extension tube (not sure 8 or 12mm)
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Apr 14, 2012 at 03:54 PM
p.4 #6f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
this picture is awesome, but what exactly am i looking at?
ZoneV wrote:
Minolta Rokkor 58/1.2 on EOS 5D, with extension tube (not sure 8 or 12mm)
http://www.4photos.de/galerie/Sonstiges/slides/Gold.jpg
ZoneV wrote:
Minolta Rokkor 58/1.2 on EOS 5D, with extension tube (not sure 8 or 12mm)
http://www.4photos.de/galerie/Sonstiges/slides/Gold.jpg
Apr 14, 2012 at 04:02 PM
p.4 #7f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
john_edwards wrote:
85L @1.2 on 1ds2 (not exactly alt)
that's cool, i envision this as more of a comparison thread than just an alt show off thread. it's nice to see what all of the different ultraspeed lenses can do no matter the brand.
85L @1.2 on 1ds2 (not exactly alt)
that's cool, i envision this as more of a comparison thread than just an alt show off thread. it's nice to see what all of the different ultraspeed lenses can do no matter the brand.
Apr 14, 2012 at 04:08 PM
p.4 #8f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
sebboh wrote:
this picture is awesome, but what exactly am i looking at?..
Hot fluid gold.
OK, it is only cold water on a table of a street café, at night illumination.
Thank you!
this picture is awesome, but what exactly am i looking at?..
Hot fluid gold.
OK, it is only cold water on a table of a street café, at night illumination.
Thank you!
Apr 14, 2012 at 04:48 PM
p.4 #9f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
ZoneV wrote:
Hot fluid gold.
OK, it is only cold water on a table of a street café, at night illumination.
Thank you!
cool, is that steam coming off too?
a couple more from the pen f 42/1.2 on a NEX:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7139/6931848694_d6f7f7383d_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/6931848616_9d41a55d3a_o.jpg
sebboh wrote
this picture is awesome, but what exactly am i looking at?..OK, it is only cold water on a table of a street café, at night illumination.
Thank you!
cool, is that steam coming off too?
a couple more from the pen f 42/1.2 on a NEX:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7139/6931848694_d6f7f7383d_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/6931848616_9d41a55d3a_o.jpg
Apr 14, 2012 at 05:31 PM
p.4 #10f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
This thread has been great inspiration to go out for a walk with a MC Rokkor PG 58/1.2 (on Canon 5D):
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/fence.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/flowerbed.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/planters.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/trees.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/redleaves.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/trunk.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/pipes.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/lab.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/lead.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/chalkboard.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/fence.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/flowerbed.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/planters.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/trees.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/redleaves.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/trunk.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/pipes.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/lab.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/lead.jpg
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20120414_rokkor_58_1.2/chalkboard.jpg
Apr 14, 2012 at 06:51 PM
p.4 #11f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
I have some...
Canon 50L on a 1DIV
McLaren MP12C 3 by leemiks, on Flickr
Canon 50L on a 5DII
McLaren MP12C 2 by leemiks, on Flickr
Minolta MC Rokkor PG 58mm f1.2 on a 5DII
IMG_3805 by leemiks, on Flickr
Minolta MC Rokkor PG 58mm f1.2 on a 5DII
IMG_3792 by leemiks, on Flickr
Olympus OM Zuiko 55mm f1.2 on a Sony NEX-5
DSC01422 by leemiks, on Flickr
Olympus OM Zuiko 55mm f1.2 on a 5D MKII
christmas2010_0753 by leemiks, on Flickr
Canon 50L on a 1DIV
McLaren MP12C 3 by leemiks, on Flickr
Canon 50L on a 5DII
McLaren MP12C 2 by leemiks, on Flickr
Minolta MC Rokkor PG 58mm f1.2 on a 5DII
IMG_3805 by leemiks, on Flickr
Minolta MC Rokkor PG 58mm f1.2 on a 5DII
IMG_3792 by leemiks, on Flickr
Olympus OM Zuiko 55mm f1.2 on a Sony NEX-5
DSC01422 by leemiks, on Flickr
Olympus OM Zuiko 55mm f1.2 on a 5D MKII
christmas2010_0753 by leemiks, on Flickr
Apr 14, 2012 at 08:29 PM
p.4 #12f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
This is silly unless we limit it to FF equivalent 1.2 and faster. 1.4 on MFT is like 2.8 on FF. Not that special.
I mean, sure you get some of the unique wide aperture look (unsharp falloff, SA, color bokeh, spherochromaticism), but not even the funky corners, which IMO are most of the fun of WA lenses.
I mean, sure you get some of the unique wide aperture look (unsharp falloff, SA, color bokeh, spherochromaticism), but not even the funky corners, which IMO are most of the fun of WA lenses.
Apr 14, 2012 at 10:04 PM
p.4 #13f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
^Unless you use half-frame lenses on APS-C, like sebboh with his pen-f 42/1.2. 
Apr 14, 2012 at 10:11 PM
p.4 #14f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
Sp12 wrote:
This is silly unless we limit it to FF equivalent 1.2 and faster. 1.4 on MFT is like 2.8 on FF. Not that special.
I mean, sure you get some of the unique wide aperture look (unsharp falloff, SA, color bokeh, spherochromaticism), but not even the funky corners, which IMO are most of the fun of WA lenses.
no.
it's about lenses and their looks and performance wide open. if you think shooting a 50/1.2 on 4/3 looks the same as shooting a 100/2.4 on FF your deluding yourself. a 50/1.2 on 4/3 looks like you took a 4/3 sized crop of the same 50/1.2 on FF. who said anything about WA lenses? the only wide angle eligible for this thread is the cv 35/1.2. yes some of the character of these lenses is lost on crop, but a lot of it remains. more importantly, a lot of people these days are deciding they don't need FF. this means when they look for a super speed lens they're interested in how it performs on the camera they shoot, not the camera it was intended for. finally, seeing how a lens performs on crop does tell you about it's performance on FF, just the central portion.
here is the rokkor 58/1.2 on FF (film):
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7089/6903713688_3f13e3db0a_o.jpg
and here it is on aps-c (digital):
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6598664975_8b6cd33d39_o.jpg
This is silly unless we limit it to FF equivalent 1.2 and faster. 1.4 on MFT is like 2.8 on FF. Not that special.
I mean, sure you get some of the unique wide aperture look (unsharp falloff, SA, color bokeh, spherochromaticism), but not even the funky corners, which IMO are most of the fun of WA lenses.
no.
it's about lenses and their looks and performance wide open. if you think shooting a 50/1.2 on 4/3 looks the same as shooting a 100/2.4 on FF your deluding yourself. a 50/1.2 on 4/3 looks like you took a 4/3 sized crop of the same 50/1.2 on FF. who said anything about WA lenses? the only wide angle eligible for this thread is the cv 35/1.2. yes some of the character of these lenses is lost on crop, but a lot of it remains. more importantly, a lot of people these days are deciding they don't need FF. this means when they look for a super speed lens they're interested in how it performs on the camera they shoot, not the camera it was intended for. finally, seeing how a lens performs on crop does tell you about it's performance on FF, just the central portion.
here is the rokkor 58/1.2 on FF (film):
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7089/6903713688_3f13e3db0a_o.jpg
and here it is on aps-c (digital):
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6598664975_8b6cd33d39_o.jpg
Apr 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM
p.4 #15f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
Inglis & sebboh thanks for comments
Apr 15, 2012 at 01:55 AM
p.4 #16f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
4x Minolta Rokkor 58 f1.2, either with 5D2 or NEX 5N. The first one is @f1.2, the others are either @f1.2 or @f2.0 (I don't recall for sure).
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/m58_01.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/m58_02.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/minolta58_01.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/minolta58_02.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/m58_01.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/m58_02.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/minolta58_01.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/minolta58_02.jpg
Apr 15, 2012 at 04:19 AM
p.4 #17f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
Woah Markus, the first one is amazing!
Apr 15, 2012 at 04:24 AM
p.4 #18f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
Thanks, jotdeh! Here's how the bokeh changes @f2.0.
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/m58_03.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/m58_03.jpg
Apr 15, 2012 at 04:34 AM
p.4 #20f/1.2 or faster lenses wide open
5d2 Rokkor 58/1.2
5D2 Canon 85L/1.2
5d2 Rokkor 58/1.2
M9 Noctilux F1
Apr 15, 2012 at 06:08 AM