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p.1 #1 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


How would the lower-end (< $2K) Nikon lenses work with the D800?

Would the sensor considerably out-resolve them? Or are they sharp enough to work well with the D800.

Do any of them offer image stabilization?

Regardless, which one of those would you recommend for the D800?

Thanks!



Apr 01, 2012 at 10:52 PM
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p.1 #2 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


you have the AF-D 300mm f4 (500ish used) or the AF-S 300mm f4 ($1000ish used), both are great lenses, you won't find anyone here who doesn't think they perform admirably for the price. but since the 2000 release of the AF-S 300/4, people have been wanting an updated version with VR- the problem being the 300 2.8's that have been updated since then with VR, are much pricer. nikon has yet to see a need to close the price gap in bettween the $1500 F4 and the $5000-6000 VRII 2.8. perhaps the nikon 300/4 doesn't sell well enough to justify making it a $2300 G VRII N lens. your other options around $2000 are the AF-I 300mm 2.8 (1600-2400) or the AF-S I 300mm 2.8 (2500-2800). both great lenses- many like to shy away from the AF-I lenses in fear of not finding repairable parts for the focus motors, from what i've heard that isn't a huge issue. (old school 1986 AF ED 300 2.8 is also an option- got one for $1300 off ebay a few years back).


Apr 01, 2012 at 11:03 PM
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p.1 #3 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


Thanks for the information!

It looks like the 300mm f/4 ED-IF AF-S Nikkor may be the way to go if budget constrained (< $2K)?

But again, would the D800 sensor out-resolve this lens?



Apr 01, 2012 at 11:23 PM
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p.1 #4 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


D800 sensor will out-resolve any current Nikon or Zeiss lenses.


Apr 01, 2012 at 11:38 PM
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p.1 #5 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


James R wrote:
D800 sensor will out-resolve any current Nikon or Zeiss lenses.


Even the 14-24?

(It's no longer April1st here in Ohio.)



Apr 01, 2012 at 11:42 PM
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p.1 #6 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


I wouldn't worry about the D800 "outresolving" the 300/4 AF-S. Does it outresolve the D7000? Nope, and that's a comparable pixel pitch to the D800. It's a great lens -- the best 300mm Nikkor, short of the f/2.8 versions.

What it will do is reveal every blemish in your technique -- it's a lens/camera combo that will shine brightest when properly supported.



Apr 02, 2012 at 08:15 AM
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p.1 #7 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


Thanks for all of the information everyone!


Apr 02, 2012 at 01:58 PM
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p.1 #8 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


I am using the 300/4 AF-S on a D5100 until my D800E arrives. Does great on the D5100, same sensor as the D7000, close to the same resolution as the D800 in DX mode.


Apr 02, 2012 at 02:10 PM
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p.1 #9 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


Don't forget the older still 300/2.8 AI and AI-S lenses. Very sturdy build and can be had for as little as $700 from KEH in BGN condition. Around $1000 gets you better condition or more accessories. Focusing these will take some practice though...


Apr 02, 2012 at 03:21 PM
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p.1 #10 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


You could also look into the first version of the AF-S 300/2.8 lens. Should be around 2K.

Else the AFS 300/4 with a wine cork in the collar does a great job. Pair it with the 1.4TC for minimal loss in IQ to get to 400mm.





Apr 02, 2012 at 04:08 PM
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p.1 #11 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


Does anyone have a D800e yet?

If so, has anyone shot it with the 300mm f/4 AF-S attached?



Apr 03, 2012 at 08:15 AM
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p.1 #12 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


The AFS 300mm/4 is at the egde with the D800 when shot wide open. Be careful and check before you buy.
Andy



Apr 03, 2012 at 08:18 AM
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p.1 #13 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


AndreasE wrote:
The AFS 300mm/4 is at the egde with the D800 when shot wide open. Be careful and check before you buy.


When you say "at the edge," what do you mean?

How would I check before buying? Rental?



Apr 03, 2012 at 08:20 AM
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p.1 #14 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


Depending on your output requirements, the 300mm shot wide open might not accomodate your quality requirements. If you have decent output sizes, thing are fine. The closer you get towards 100% in images shot at f4, the more you see limitations of the lens (at high level)

Andy



Apr 03, 2012 at 08:36 AM
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p.1 #15 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


Thanks Andy...

I believe that 12 x 18" (about A3) might be what I am shooting for, and my maximum print for home printing is 13x19" (A3+).

I might see myself going a bit higher (16x24") if I get prints made from a lab.

Your thoughts about these output sizes with the above combination?



Apr 03, 2012 at 08:41 AM
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p.1 #16 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


The 300 f4, I think its plenty sharp. Below is a 1.2X 24MP pic from D800 (out of camera JPG with sharpening set to 5) and a 100% crop. Did not have LR or PS (now) to process it so this is a straight out of camera resized/cropped in paint to 1200x800. You can definitely do a lot better with LR or PS. This should give you an idea of the lens capabilities on D800.

Edited on Oct 09, 2012 at 07:54 PM · View previous versions



Apr 03, 2012 at 09:53 AM
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p.1 #17 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


@bbvaj:

Thanks for sharing! That's a nice shot.

Does anyone else have opinions about this lens and any examples shot with this lens wide open?

Again, I doubt if I will be printing anything larger than A3, 12 x 18", 13 x 19", or 16 x 24".





Apr 03, 2012 at 11:35 AM
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p.1 #18 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


cameron12x wrote:
Thanks Andy...
Your thoughts about these output sizes with the above combination?


You should be fine with these output sizes.

To visually compare
D800 & AFS 300mm/4 @ f4, 100% crop, distance 100 ft
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142476181/original.jpg

ditto @ f8
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142476186/original.jpg


The (much more expensive) AFS 300mm/2.8 VR II is open (f2.8) closer to the f8 image of the AFS 300mm/4.

regards,
Andy



Apr 03, 2012 at 12:22 PM
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p.1 #19 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


I am actually suprised how well some of my cheaper lenses work with this megapixel monster

Mostly I was worried about my 70-300 VR. When I tested it, it was performing really well. On my sample there was in the right side of the image something like 200px wide part which was clearly softer than rest of the image. I can post some examples later when I get to my computer.

On the other hand. I tested 24-120/4 with this D800 in a store and 85mm-120mm end looked terrible. Have to think again before bying that.

I would also regommend 300/4 AF-S if you need the speed. It's much better than my 70-300VR and I just sold mine, because I needed the stabilizer.




Apr 05, 2012 at 01:03 AM
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p.1 #20 · 300mm Lens Options For D800


James R wrote:
D800 sensor will out-resolve any current Nikon or Zeiss lenses.


What? I don't think so. I think it's the other way around, the sensor is the limitation not the lens, at least when you are talking any decent lens.



Apr 05, 2012 at 11:10 PM
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