p.18 #1 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
I ended up using the 5D3 during some rare hot bright weather in the UK over the weekend, I moved up from a 5D2 to the 5D3 and the AF points were an issue for me too. I really hope that this can be sorted out, the camera is brilliant, but for me this is an issue.
p.18 #2 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
Canon rumors just posted today that canon will have a major firmware update coming soon! Hopefully something to address this. I must have email with complaints and suggestions about 15 times!
p.18 #3 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
Mind boggling that there is 18 pages of nonsense on this topic. Millions of 7D owners like myself have been using the same illumination system with no issues at all. I do not even notice it with my new MkIII. This is not an issue and I shoot in harsh light, to pitch black at night for auto racing.
To tell you how much of a non issue this is, I did not even notice that it did not light up until I started reading these whining threads. And yes I have owned 1D's so I know how they light up red. Deal with it people!!
p.18 #4 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
do you even use the camera? try mounting a 1.2 lens and shoot in bright daylight and tell me what you can see...then again if you shoot with 2.8, 4.0 or 5.6 lenses it will be ok in bright daylight...Noticed I said ok, not great.
p.18 #5 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
Just because your shooting style doesn't match that of others doesn't mean you're a genius and everyone else is a whiner. Maybe, just maybe, you would be getting more out of your camera if the AF points were illuminated in red.
I also recall a bunch of shills saying something similar about the AF on the 1D3 when it was first released. And they were proved wrong.
p.18 #6 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
The 1DmkIII fiasco and this are not even close to the same thing. The AF systems on the 7D and 5DmkIII work just fine. You don't need to point to light up in red to use the dam thing. It would not help me in any way. This is a non issue.
pompo, no, I never use my cameras, they just sit in my camera bag so that I can say I own them. I also did not read this entire thread, after the first couple of posts you realize it's a waste of time.
p.18 #7 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
really? I see your equipment on your site is all 2.8 and 4.0 and extenders (!) , and by looking at your site you mostly use center point ...no wonder it's not an issue...Dont update the firmware if it 'll ever be somehow fixed....Simple
p.18 #8 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
Really, almost all my motorsports stuff is bottom focus point, and 99% of all the aircraft on the ground are bottom focus point. This was never even considered an issue when the 7D came out, because it is not an issue to anybody who knows what the heck they are doing. As for extenders, I should probably sell those. I have not used them in the last 4 years.
p.18 #9 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
Looking at your site, you obviously know what you are doing, and it's not even close to what I'm doing. I really don't think you would be so seriously handicapped with focus points that are black.
p.18 #10 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
ok I m learning he and I don't know what I'm doing , to tell you the truth I don't care what you think, what I care is what Canon thinks on the matter...
p.18 #11 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
Tim Adams wrote:
Mind boggling that there is 18 pages of nonsense on this topic. Millions of 7D owners like myself have been using the same illumination system with no issues at all. I do not even notice it with my new MkIII. This is not an issue and I shoot in harsh light, to pitch black at night for auto racing.
To tell you how much of a non issue this is, I did not even notice that it did not light up until I started reading these whining threads. And yes I have owned 1D's so I know how they light up red. Deal with it people!!...Show more →
Brilliant.
A user of a lower end camera is unfamiliar with higher end cameras' features and therefore those features are not needed or useful.
If the successor to the 7D arrives at a higher price with features removed (without advertising this fact) to cut costs let everyone know if that makes sense to you because the feature set now matches what a T3i user expects. If I were a T3i user I could then post here about how many more millions of users have gotten by without this feature (something like the missing top LCD) so everyone expecting more is just whining.
p.18 #12 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
As I said, I owned and used a 1DmkIIn and 1DsmkII for over two years. I'm very familiar with how the 1D AF system works. Really, how did any of you ever use a manual focus SLR, where nothing lit up. You all must have been lost.
p.18 #13 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
Funny how some people literally get upset because they don't agree with other people's view of how a certain feature should function. Get mad...that'll show em'
p.18 #14 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
Tim Adams wrote:
As I said, I owned and used a 1DmkIIn and 1DsmkII for over two years. I'm very familiar with how the 1D AF system works. Really, how did any of you ever use a manual focus SLR, where nothing lit up. You all must have been lost.
Another great post.
You're exactly right, strip out all the modern features and keep raising the price. Then everyone will see how pointless all those features really were. We used to get by with so much less. We should thank Canon for removing all these crutches.
p.18 #16 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
For me the 5D3 AF points are not an issue but since switching to digital I have owned several Canon dSLRs and I can see how the new system would bother some shooters who are used to the previous AF point style. Having owned the 7D and knowing the 5D3 was a similar system I was not surprised by it. Hopefully Canon will find a solution...
p.18 #17 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
Tim Adams wrote:
Really, almost all my motorsports stuff is bottom focus point, and 99% of all the aircraft on the ground are bottom focus point. This was never even considered an issue when the 7D came out, because it is not an issue to anybody who knows what the heck they are doing. As for extenders, I should probably sell those. I have not used them in the last 4 years.
See, therein is the difference. Perhaps you should dial back a page or two and complete my questionnaire before you start labeling others whiners. If all you do is use the same two focus points and only switch them when it comes time to shoot, of course you won't worry about this issue. I, for one, shoot in many different situations and I am **constantly** switching AF points in each and every situation. As such, not easily seeing the AF point and not having the ability to be quickly reminded what AF point I have selected affects the way I shoot.
Not everyone shoots like you. Therefore you should concede you are not as all-knowing as you previously presumed to be.
p.18 #18 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
Recently I was talked into photographing some little league baseball players. Not the type of thing I typically shoot, but it offers a good example of what I'm talking about. During this two hour shoot I was constantly moving my AF point around. I changed the AF point to suit the scene; I didn't just park it in just one location for the duration of the shoot. If I saw something interesting happening I quickly moved the AF point, but there are times during the action when you forget where it is parked. With my 5D, 5D2, and 1D3 I would tap the joystick on the back to see where the AF point was parked, move it if necessary, and follow the action using the red AF point in AI Servo mode. During this game an at least 7 different action-packed shoots since receiving the camera I have been hindered as a result of this change. It takes me longer to find the AF point in the VF and it takes longer to move the AF point because it it not nearly as intuitive as it was before.
In each of these examples I have the AF point selected in a different place (forgive the annoying "proof" watermark--they are the only shots I had immediately available for this post):
Now, it may be easy for someone to adjust to this nuisance if all they do is shoot landscapes, still life, and portraits...or if you use only the same AF point during an entire shoot (as you yourself claim to do, Tim). But if you are the type of person who shoots in many different environments using a variety of different AF points it is a royal P.I.T.A. And because there was no warning about this feature change, I have chosen to complain in a forum of fellow photographers in hopes of getting the problem (somewhat) fixed. That is my choice, just like it is your choice to shoot with your AF glued to the same AF point; not a method I personally recommend, but that is your choice. It is also your choice not to follow this thread if it annoys you.
p.18 #19 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
Todd Klassy wrote:
With my 5D, 5D2, and 1D3 I would tap the joystick on the back to see where the AF point was parked, move it if necessary, and follow the action using the red AF point in AI Servo mode.
So with the 5D3, you can still do the same with the joystick, tap it once and then move it around to your new position. You have to enable this in Custom Controls menu. Then if you were outside shooting baseball wouldn't the black point show up well enough to follow the players etc?? I've used my 5D3 mostly for BIF shooting and have been able to track easily with the black points and use the same type of method to tap the joystick and move to a different point. I also use a lot of different points while out shooting birds like you described. I realize you can't see any red outside with the 5D3 but I've found the black to show up really good.
p.18 #20 · 5d M III Viewfinder illumination and af points!
first of all I would like to be able to just move the joystick without having to tap the other button on the right first. it seems like after I moved it if I wait a minute or so I cannot move the joystick again without having to make it "active" with th other button, that already sucks compared to 5dM2 and 1DMIV.
