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denoir wrote:
I very often do only resize and sharpening in PS so I don't need or want a second TIFF/PSD image. It just clutters my LR library. Also if you import it as raw into photoshop, you can make ad-hoc ACR adjustments.


But what do you do after you sharpen and resize? You have to save it, right? What do you save it as?

I guess I just don't really see the issue, but I guess that's me....I do see the advantage of being able to make adjustments and such in Camera RAW after you've worked a bit. Does it act like a smart object then?




Mar 07, 2012 at 03:44 PM
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p.3 #2 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Eyeball wrote:
This is not 100% correct. ACR 6.7RC actually contains the new 2012 process engine and can be used with LR4. You will get the warning that you need ACR 7 but if you tell it to go ahead and process, it will do it using the 2012 process settings you used in LR4.

This is of limited use, however, since even though the 2012 process is contained within ACR 6.7RC, you do not have access to the 2012 controls - not in the normal ACR interface nor as a Smart Object from LR4.

It does allow you to render directly into CS5
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That's a good news, I didn't bother loading 6.7 but now I will
That might be a way to avoid upgrading to CS6...
Although I will probably anyway, there is a really good improved cloning tool
based on content-aware algorithm and a few other things.
I can't stand Adobe upgrading policies although I really like the tools.
I own a suite and a PS license and it's truly ridiculous now.
5.5 update of the suite didn't touch PS for example, but I guess in the future
I will have to keep upgrading or I'll lose the license









Mar 07, 2012 at 03:52 PM
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p.3 #3 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Eyeball wrote:
This is not 100% correct. ACR 6.7RC actually contains the new 2012 process engine and can be used with LR4. You will get the warning that you need ACR 7 but if you tell it to go ahead and process, it will do it using the 2012 process settings you used in LR4.


Great info, thanks!


Jman13 wrote:
But what do you do after you sharpen and resize? You have to save it, right? What do you save it as? I guess I just don't really see the issue, but I guess that's me.


A small web sized jpeg that goes to my web host and not back into my LR database. The issue is that I don't want duplicate images in my image library. The workaround is of course simply to delete the newly created (full size) image once I'm done with it in PS, but it's an annoying extra step.

I do see the advantage of being able to make adjustments and such in Camera RAW after you've worked a bit. Does it act like a smart object then?

Yep, you import it as a smart object.



Mar 07, 2012 at 03:54 PM
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p.3 #4 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Great engineers, poor product management people.


Mar 07, 2012 at 03:56 PM
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p.3 #5 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Argh, things are going just as poorly this time as they did the last time I tried to order through the Adobe website, to get the lower price they offer. Somehow these people are completely bloody incompetent. The whole thing is Flash, of course, the worst plugin known to man. I tried to log in repeatedly, failed and eventually had to reset the password.

Once in, I typed in my address, and it insisted that it was wrong, and that I should add the part of town I live in to the address (which is of no interest to the mailman, just to the tax department), but I managed to ignore that and move on. Then I chose credit card, figuring that was the easiest (since PayPal failed last time), but it got stuck somewhere and asked me to check my input. I did, everything was correct, and then it booted me out on the next try, back to the login screen.

I am so fed up with Adobe! I hate their stuff (other than Lightroom which is somehow decent, even if its colours aren't as nice as Aperture, Capture 1, RPP and maybe other packages. Photoshop is built on the oldest code base short of IBM mainframe code, and everything is bundled into the worst installers you can imagine, which generously spread crud all over, including all sorts of applications I don't want.

Why does this company insist on existing? They should just sell their IP to someone else and go out of business.

I will go to cyberport and pick it up there. These people are competent.



Mar 07, 2012 at 04:49 PM
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Lol your frustration and anger just drips off the post, couldn't help but laugh through it.

I think we've all been there with various products. I just accidentally ordered TWO of the new iPads because the Apple server is slammed and double entered my order.



Mar 07, 2012 at 05:01 PM
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p.3 #7 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


snowboarder wrote:
That's a good news, I didn't bother loading 6.7 but now I will
That might be a way to avoid upgrading to CS6...
Although I will probably anyway, there is a really good improved cloning tool
based on content-aware algorithm and a few other things.
I can't stand Adobe upgrading policies although I really like the tools.
I own a suite and a PS license and it's truly ridiculous now.
5.5 update of the suite didn't touch PS for example, but I guess in the future
I will have to keep upgrading or I'll lose the license



Uh oh, am I missing something by not updating to 5.5? I thought they decided to waive the whole 1 version upgrade policy after Scott Kelby called them out on how ridiculous it is.



Mar 07, 2012 at 06:07 PM
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p.3 #8 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


I believe that Adobe announced a special policy of allowing CS4 users to upgrade directly to CS6 for a short time, but not a full revocation of the plan. I own CS4 and will probably take advantage of this offer, but CS6 may be my last Photoshop ever. I do not like this company one bit, and in any case, there is so much to do in CS6 and I take advantage of so little, I simply cannot justify buying faster than I learn.

Edited on Mar 07, 2012 at 06:45 PM · View previous versions



Mar 07, 2012 at 06:10 PM
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p.3 #9 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


They announced phased pricing as a limited time offer. The older your PS version the more you pay. That applies as far back as CS3 but if you own CS3 or CS4 you only get upgrade pricing until Dec 31, 2012.


Mar 07, 2012 at 06:42 PM
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p.3 #10 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Leica includes Lightroom 4 with most camera purchases:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/03/15/Adobe-includes-Lightroom-4




Mar 15, 2012 at 11:18 PM
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p.3 #11 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Got my copy of the update yesterday.

Has anyone else noticed the missing manual CA sliders for yellow/blue and green/magenta? All I see is a box to check for CA, and that is not giving complete correction that I'm used to. In LR3 I use lens profile with its build in correction, then go to the manual side for individual CA tweak.

Is the feature buried somewhere?



Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM
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p.3 #12 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Post #7 at last page.

No, the manual lateral CA control sliders are gone, not buried somewhere.



Mar 16, 2012 at 10:37 AM
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p.3 #13 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Jonas B wrote:
No, the manual lateral CA control sliders are gone, not buried somewhere.


Adobe...



Mar 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM
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p.3 #14 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


During the beta for LR 4, Adobe asked if anyone could do a better job with CA using the sliders than LR can do automatically and no one could. That's why the sliders are gone.

If you REALLY needed the sliders for one particular image, you could switch that image to the older process (in the Calibration tab) and you'd have them.

Personally, I haven't seen the check box do a very good job yet but then again, neither have the sliders. Maybe it's me? I just reduce the purple and magenta saturation.



Mar 16, 2012 at 03:17 PM
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p.3 #15 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Thanks for the responses.

Here are a couple examples where I could use the manual CA correction in LR.

The current issue was the Canon EF 28-300L lens. The auto CA correct was very good, but still left a little telltale magenta fringing. Same happened under LR3, but there I would make slight additional correction. I believe it was +15 magenta, and +10 yellow. Now, no chance to remove that last little bit.

One of the circumstances that drew me to LR3 was a problem I had with Canon's original version 24 TS-E. Canon's DPP (which I'd used religiously on Canon RAW files) did not offer CA correction or lens profile for this lens. The worst thing about the lens was the color fringing and resulting unsharpness. LR3 offered the solution with manual sliders and breathed a bit of new life into that lens, just before I bought the later version II. Still, it was an elegant solution that greatly improved the lens' output.

There are a lot of lenses, both OEM and Alt, that are not profiled on the LR list. To do any fix on them, we need the manual controls to be as versatile as possible.

I guess it's my own fault for not getting involved with the LR4 beta testing.



Mar 16, 2012 at 03:43 PM
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p.3 #16 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Does the CA auto-correction rely entirely on lens profiles, or does it measure CA in the image and correct it?


Mar 16, 2012 at 03:51 PM
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p.3 #17 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


AhamB wrote:
Adobe...


I looked all over for them in the Beta, finally found that the gradient and brush have CA removal now. I haven't upgraded still using 3.6 because there are so many problems with 4 with importing libraries and speed.



Mar 16, 2012 at 03:57 PM
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p.3 #18 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Does anyone here have experience moving an Aperture library to Lightroom, with as much info intact as possible?


Mar 16, 2012 at 04:29 PM
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p.3 #19 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


carstenw wrote:
Does anyone here have experience moving an Aperture library to Lightroom, with as much info intact as possible?


Does having a nightmare and waking up in a cold sweat count as experience? There is a lot of feedback on this on the Internet, I don't think you'll be too happy with the results/conclusions.



Mar 16, 2012 at 06:15 PM
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p.3 #20 · Lightroom Version 4 is available


Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I am not quite sure how I will handle it. I might leave everything up to and including the D3 in Aperture and start with the D800E in Lightroom. Or I might move the D3 over too, although that would be a lot of work...


Mar 16, 2012 at 06:19 PM
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