p.10 #1 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
SchnellerGT wrote:
If Canon MGMT has half a brain, they are reading this now. And hopefully pissing their pants.
Let's hope!
I really hate to sell 10 lenses, 3 flashes, and the ST-E2, and learn a whole new system.
We know they have been testing larger sensors for years. And I just saw a Nikon 800 image that was apparently taken in July 2011, so Canon must have known the 800 was coming.
But did they commit in September, and gear up production, marketing, etc? Canon has about 1 month to announce ....
p.10 #3 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Will wait to see what Canon has in store, but perhaps in the fall will be seriously looking D800E, 14-24 and a couple of other lenses. Will miss my 24LII if I do it, hmmm. I have never really considered jumping ship before, going all the way back to the 300D rebel, always been a Canon guy (and Elan IIe in film days)
p.10 #4 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Jman13 wrote:
Though with MUCH lower resolution, unless you are shooting medium format or larger. And modern DSLRs outresolve most medium format films starting around 16 MP.
High resolution images which look like plastic crap have no appeal to me. I've seen some quality work with digital - work posted in these forums being prime examples - but none I've been able to duplicate with my 5D (now sold). And if I'm going to kill myself in post trying to duplicate the look of film, why not reach for the 'original' for its look and impact?
Horses for courses of course. Your PP skills must be more advanced than mine, and we don't want to OT this thread into a film vs digital one.
p.10 #5 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Very impressive, I just am not crazy about going to such large file sizes and upgrading a computer to work with 200 mb TIFF files and then the storage and the cards and the. . . .
I do like what I am seeing so far but not sure if it would make me a better photographer just one with more technology. :^)
p.10 #7 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
I sold my Canon kit over the last two years and liberated enough cash to buy a D700, an excellent kit of Nikon manual focus lenses. I have enough left to fund purchase of a D800. I placed my order this morning. My frustration with Canon focusing was ended with the D700, so now I'm just having fun playing with exceptionally well built gear that performs beautifully. I mention it for all those Canon shooters who have an abundance of L glass. It is possible to liberate those dollars. I've not had one moment of remorse over making the switch and am grateful the investment in Canon gear has enabled me to build a Nikon kit that gives me great pleasure. I'm excited to find out how my kit of MF lenses will perform on the D800. It should be fun.
If you don't want to make the switch, I hope for your sake that Canon finally comes to its senses and puts a professional focusing system in its prosumer FX camera, as Nikon did with the D700 and has done once again with the D800. They really shot themselves in the foot with the 5D Mark II... If they'd been smart back then I'd likely never have tried the D700.
p.10 #8 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
> Canon finally comes to its senses and puts a professional focusing system in its prosumer FX camera
Curious - have you used the EOS 3 (film camera)? How would you compare its system with the D700's?
Agreed about poor AF in lower models. Before I went 100% film, I owned the 20D and the 5D and found them less than pleasing in this department, relative to the EOS 3.
p.10 #9 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
CGrindahl wrote:
I sold my Canon kit over the last two years and liberated enough cash to buy a D700, an excellent kit of Nikon manual focus lenses. I have enough left to fund purchase of a D800. I placed my order this morning. My frustration with Canon focusing was ended with the D700, so now I'm just having fun playing with exceptionally well built gear that performs beautifully. I mention it for all those Canon shooters who have an abundance of L glass. It is possible to liberate those dollars. I've not had one moment of remorse over making the switch and am grateful the investment in Canon gear has enabled me to build a Nikon kit that gives me great pleasure. I'm excited to find out how my kit of MF lenses will perform on the D800. It should be fun.
If you don't want to make the switch, I hope for your sake that Canon finally comes to its senses and puts a professional focusing system in its prosumer FX camera, as Nikon did with the D700 and has done once again with the D800. They really shot themselves in the foot with the 5D Mark II... If they'd been smart back then I'd likely never have tried the D700....Show more →
But...but then there would be no MF Nikon glass thread
p.10 #10 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
CGrindahl wrote:
My frustration with Canon focusing was ended with the D700... I'm excited to find out how my kit of MF lenses will perform on the D800.
(I realize you have a few AF lenses, I'm mostly being a smartass)
p.10 #11 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Tom K. wrote:
The only reason not to completely abandon Canon right now is the 17 TSE. Otherwise Nikon blows the doors off of Canon in too many ways for me to list here right now.
No, that lens doesn't really interest me as I prefer the 24 TS-E. Why I wouldn't switch at this stage, the superteles, MP-E 65 and 135L, 100-400L, 400 f/5.6L, 70-200 f/2.8L IS mk II.
p.10 #12 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Jman13 wrote:
Though with MUCH lower resolution, unless you are shooting medium format or larger. And modern DSLRs outresolve most medium format films starting around 16 MP.
Not really.
p.10 #13 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Boy going back to the old days-- early days of digital DSLRs-- Canon was so far ahead of Nikon. I never thought Nikon would be able to catch Canon. Over the last few years, it looks as if Nikon has surpassed Canon in a number of parameters. The high quality high iso images was the first real parameter that impressed me... now this new camera. I am just reading about this camera and what is not clear to me is whether or not the sensor will out resolve most of the available Nikon glass.
p.10 #16 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
I'm curious how many folks here mean what they say.
When the 5D2 was announced, many folks slammed Canon for getting into the megapixel race. (Remember the 24 MP D3X was only released some time after the 5D2.) They described just beautiful the D700 high ISO shots were. It certainly took people a long time to appreciate their 21 MP files.
Now that the 36 MP D800 is announced, everything gets turned around.
Ah... people are strange.
In the meanwhile, I am looking at many beautiful winning shots taken with the pathetic and lame 12 MP D3/D3s here and here.
"This was a surprise to me when I recently evaluated my use of the two cameras on assignments where I was carrying both: I shot more with the D3s than the D3x...
The thing I was trying to address in my article was what the camera makers--specifically Nikon and Canon--had concluded about pixels versus target customer. My conclusion: they think that the amateur/enthusiast will respond more to pixels, the professional more to low-level pixel integrity. Thus, we'll get more pixels in the lower cost bodies."
p.10 #18 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
anandnvi wrote:
> Canon finally comes to its senses and puts a professional focusing system in its prosumer FX camera
Curious - have you used the EOS 3 (film camera)? How would you compare its system with the D700's?
Hello,
EOS-3, EOS-1D and 1Ds have basically the same AF system (1D bodies sans ECF). 1D Mk2 line has the same sensor, but faster processing (one more AF processor).
So compared to D700 it is 45pt vs 51pt, 7cross vs 15 cross. But: Canon's crosses are high precision, however they only work with lenses f/2.8 and brighter. Otherwise they are single-orientation just like the rest. Nikon's crosses work all the time, but perhaps less precise (this is still uknown to me, how well these "normal" crosses perform with their new f/1.4 lenses).
Canon then has the central cross working with f/4 lenses and brighter (but with L lenses only ), and AF working as such on center up to f/8 (without taping the pin on TC, this f/8 is in specs).
That would be basic on-paper difference. I think Nikon can activate "assist" points around the chosen point at any time, but Canon allows that only from certain focal length and AF mode in their 1D Mk2 version, or chose a pair of points.
Personally I have only 1D Mk2/3 AF experience, I couldn't try D700 yet.
p.10 #20 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Chris Sharp wrote:
The omission of sRAW on the D800 is its number 1 fail. Otherwise seems like the perfect camera. And a "crop" mode is no substitution for sRAW
They need to save a few features for the D800 Mk II.
If they'd been smart back then I'd likely never have tried the D700.
