p.2 #2 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Chris Ventura wrote:
I don't know where you get your information from.. but increased MP does NOT increase diffraction
Correct, but it does increase your (er, the image sensor's) ability to record that diffraction. For a given f-number there will be a minimum size Airy disc projected on the image plane, if your image pixels (or crystals, or whatever) are smaller than that disc, you don't record more resolution information (the pixels may be useful for other purposes, such as oversampling).
p.2 #6 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Ben Horne wrote:
The D800(e) pretty much satisfies my list of the ideal landscape camera. Looks like a beast!
I just wish the Nikon 24mm PC-E lens was a super-rotator like the Canon 24mm TS-E.... and that they had a 17mm PC-E.
Do you mean tilt and the shift mechanisms to be rotated independently of each other? I believe Nikon can fix that if you send it in. I'm not sure. Anyone knows?
Yes, no 17TSE but they have the 14-24mm.
14-24mm, 24mm PC-E and 85mm PC-E should not be bad, especially from you coming from large format.
p.2 #7 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Fred Miranda wrote:
Should I move the this thread about the absolutely awesome D800, 36mp, af at F8, etc, to the Nikon board?
No. I believe we are mature enough on this board to be able to discuss how Nikon might influence Canon's next release.
To the people who complain about this being a Nikon...get a life. I use cameras to take my photos....I really don't care if they start with a C or a N or something wild like S or heaven forbid P.
p.2 #9 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Fred Miranda wrote:
Do you mean tilt and the shift mechanisms to be rotated independently of each other? I believe Nikon can fix that if you send it in. I'm not sure. Anyone knows?
Yes, no 17TSE but they have the 14-24mm.
14-24mm, 24mm PC-E and 85mm PC-E should not be bad, especially from you coming from large format.
The 14-24 can in no way serve as a substitute for the TSE-17 with its 12mm of shift. The TSE-17 is for me the biggest factor to stay loyal to Canon.
p.2 #11 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
My "canon loyalty" is basically gone. I am just waiting for a chance when I can afford to switch.
Canon's system sucks overall. Everything they have done has been behind ever since the D700/D3/D3x era began. The 7D serves no purpose for me, and that has been their most rounded/best overall design in a long time. Autofocus is the bane of Canon. Truncating AF functionality and having a focus system that is neither practical (e.g. 5D single center point only to work with for some semblance of reliability) nor consistently reliable...100% my biggest problem with Canon.
God I just hate the unreliability of Canon AF. Even trying the 1D series cameras at PMA I was left feeling like, "Ok so why isn't it focusing consistently accurately? Nikon can do it..."
If Canon made their AF more reliable, I would want to keep my stuff. It's just that one, extremely critical problem that ruins them for me. I could live with not having the highest resolution or best noise control...which of course Canon has been inferior to Nikon on both counts since the D3/D3x/D700 era began.
p.2 #12 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
If the price is good and we get an early release in Hong Kong I might buy one for the summer and sell it afterwards in Europe. Can't wait to pair a 36mp camera with a good prime lens and do some high resolution panorama's.
p.2 #14 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
ViscaB wrote:
The 14-24 can in no way serve as a substitute for the TSE-17 with its 12mm of shift. The TSE-17 is for me the biggest factor to stay loyal to Canon.
Same here.
Nikon does not have an answer for the 17mm TS-E and from I have read, the 24mm TS-E is better in functionally and image quality when comparing to Nikon's equivalent.
p.2 #15 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
D800 will use a Sony 36MP sensor capable of 1080 30p HD. However, Sony is designing a new 24MP chip for its FF SLT and NEX cameras. It'll be interesting to see the difference in hi-ISO performance between the two Sony sensors.
Give us FF 1080 60p please... Sony or Canon... plus video autofocus!
p.2 #17 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Fred Miranda wrote:
Do you mean tilt and the shift mechanisms to be rotated independently of each other? I believe Nikon can fix that if you send it in. I'm not sure. Anyone knows?
Yes, no 17TSE but they have the 14-24mm.
14-24mm, 24mm PC-E and 85mm PC-E should not be bad, especially from you coming from large format.
Just like with the old style Canon 24mm TS-E the Nikon 24mm PC-E does not allow you to easily change the orientation of tilt vs. shift in the field. It can be done by unscrewing a few screws and rotating the mount, but that's nowhere near as easy as the new Canon 24mm TS-E II that will rotate with the flip of a switch. It has two points of rotation --- one between the lens and the body, and the second between the tilting portion and the shifting portion --- very handy.
You've definitely hit the nail on the head regarding the 14-24mm though. It would be nice to use such an amazing lens without fiddling with an adapter.
The whole discussion of potentially buying a Nikon is quite amusing really. Several years ago, a good friend and I would constantly battle about the ideal camera/car/computer setup. I shot Canon, drove a Toyota 4Runner, and used a Mac. He shot Nikon, drove a Jeep, and used a PC. My next car will likely be a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, my next camera will likely be a Nikon, and my computer... well, that will always be a Mac. :-)
I'm in no rush to buy a new camera... but it would be nice to have something to compliment my Large format setup, which will be my primary camera for a VERY long time. 8x10 is ridiculously awesome.
p.2 #18 · D800, 36mp, af at F8, ect, press release out
Fred Miranda wrote:
Nikon does not have an answer for the 17mm TS-E and from I have read, the 24mm TS-E is better in functionally and image quality when comparing to Nikon's equivalent.
There's that. Also, how long before the successor to the 5DII is released, and what if it turns out to also be beyond 30 MP? Haven't heard any rumors of Canon removing moire/AA from the low pass filter, but that has always seemed like something that would gradually be abandoned as pixel counts continue to rise. OK, maybe it will turn out that Canon's spring releases are all huge disappointments and Nikon will rule for six months, a year, more...But it seems silly to talk that way the moment Nikon announces a new body.
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