Have any of the students taken one shot, I've been watching randomly and not once i've seen them doing anything but sitting there like puppets. Is clear that they love to talk about themselves but man, this is terrible. I hope that must seminars are not like this one.
thegt1 wrote:
Have any of the students taken one shot, I've been watching randomly and not once i've seen them doing anything but sitting there like puppets. Is clear that they love to talk about themselves but man, this is terrible. I hope that must seminars are not like this one.
Does shooting in a situation like this even matter? If I was there was there I would not be shooting either....I would be watching with all the attention I could muster.
thegt1 wrote:
Have any of the students taken one shot, I've been watching randomly and not once i've seen them doing anything but sitting there like puppets. Is clear that they love to talk about themselves but man, this is terrible. I hope that must seminars are not like this one.
I'm watching bits here and there and I saw a student take some shots yesterday. They had the student go through their steps to set the strobe position, set strobe power based on ambient/strobe ratio, and then drag the shutter to adjust bg exposure. I'm guessing they do this a lot for their workshops and the workshops are a lot more hands on.
joelconner wrote:
Does shooting in a situation like this even matter? If I was there was there I would not be shooting either....I would be watching with all the attention I could muster.
Yeah the format is quite different from say bambi's which was very hands on. I'm not sure how much more the students are getting than people seeing it on the net though.
I gotta wonder about the whole expodisc thing. yes, i see how it is good to set WB once per setup and be done with it, and get an exposure dialed in. I get that.
But, I feel like I can get my exposure dialed in just as well with a quick spot-meter on the subject's skin. WB I can handle after the and apply in batches.
If I shot JPEG, an expodisc would be just about the best investment possible. But for RAW.....?
benee wrote:
I gotta wonder about the whole expodisc thing. yes, i see how it is good to set WB once per setup and be done with it, and get an exposure dialed in. I get that.
But, I feel like I can get my exposure dialed in just as well with a quick spot-meter on the subject's skin. WB I can handle after the and apply in batches.
If I shot JPEG, an expodisc would be just about the best investment possible. But for RAW.....?
My hope is that an accurate in camera WB will reduce or eliminate most of my post WB woes .. in mixed lighting finding a good neutral tone for the eyedropper can be tedious and time consuming. With the eyedropper it's often settling for something close but not dead on.
My initial thoughts based on some testing around the house here is that the expodisc WB is perfect, and I shot a few with my AB's with a mix of strobe and tugnsten and the results were dead on as well.
But not cheap by any means .. local price including tax was like $146.
I would be interested to try one out...if it works as well as they say it does, it could be a great thing. Granted...I had never even heard of the thing before they spoke on it.
i tuned in to this session with parts of Day 2 and Day 3. Probably because i'm a noob, but i found the information to be very good! So good that I actually bought the class to watch what i missed
No, I didn't order an expodisc, but they did sell it pretty good - which looks like it worked since most are OOS at B&H
One a sidenote, has anyone used KISS for photobooks? Or how about the Sandisk Vault versus a CD to deliver images?
JR Magat wrote:
i tuned in to this session with parts of Day 2 and Day 3. Probably because i'm a noob, but i found the information to be very good! So good that I actually bought the class to watch what i missed
For any beginning or less experienced (or struggling experienced) wedding photographers looking for a blueprint on all essential aspects of a successful wedding photography business this $99 is money very well spent.
I have to say, I found the class a wonderful experience...and I am definitely not "beginning" or "less experienced." I have around 60+ weddings under my belt and 27 all ready on the books for this year.
In all my time, I have never...I mean NEVER...had the chance to watch a successful photographer (or pair, in this case) work. I have never been to a hands-on workshop, never had wedding technique training, and never second shot for a photographer that was any better than I was. I have been almost totally self-taught. It was so great to watch how someone else goes through their process and gets the job done. I feel like I gained more from watching this than almost anything else I have seen in a while. What I gained was much less about photography per se, and much more about how to interact with clients and how to set up shots etc.
brett maxwell wrote:
A little tip, every can of Pringles ($4) comes with a free Expodisc disguised as a lid.
I've heard this a lot of times but never tried it. I just might have to buy a can of pringles to find out. I like the pringles anyway so no loss there .
As to those who balk at the price of the expodisc...
It seems to be $100.00 at B&H
It seems to be the kind of accessory you really only buy once.
If it works as well as advertised AND IF YOU USE IT while you are paid to, it could save tons of time back at the computer (unpaid work). I've never tried it. I bought a whibal and used it a bit but THAT is a pain in the ass because you have to have an assistant go put it in front of the clients, or ask the clients to hold it, which is TOTAL CHEESE.
I will also need to try the pringles lid trick.... Thanks of the suggestion Brett!
As for the info covered, I totally agree, it was really cool to see them talk through how they set up their shots and WHY (ex. metering their strobes to shutter speed 1/100). Day 3 was amazing on the business end of things.. so it was money well spent in my book!
