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@EOS20: live view gives you the EOSfun you need :-)

Anyway interesting read here on the 5D successor. I believe there is one thing in the specs guesstipulated :-) that is wrong. And on another note: is nobody surprised like I was that this camera doesn't have a tilt and swivel screen? For a camera whose predecessor that defined the new segment of the video D-SLR? When I asked a Canon rep in Vegas recently I got a marketing blabla response that "Canon has good expectations from their Cinema models", which makes it clear that marketing defined the specs of this camera rather then technological progress. As often I found it more interesting see what this camera does not have than what it has. I predict trouble for Canon (and a few other manufacturers) from other, unexpected, companies soon, not their rivals on paper like Nikon. The neglect of the social media revolution from imaging media producers like Canon is stunning. I am afraid investors will respond soon. Well that might sound like an off topic rant, but to me this is related to EOSfun in the (mid) long term directly related to Canon's recent introductions like the G1X, 1DX and the 5D successor



Jan 25, 2012 at 04:46 AM
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More buttons are good ! If the new camera follows in 7D steps, most of them will be customizable.

PS. I wonder if the camera has two front buttons (like 1Dx)



Jan 25, 2012 at 05:51 AM
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eosfun wrote:
@EOS20: live view gives you the EOSfun you need :-)

Anyway interesting read here on the 5D successor. I believe there is one thing in the specs guesstipulated :-) that is wrong. And on another note: is nobody surprised like I was that this camera doesn't have a tilt and swivel screen? For a camera whose predecessor that defined the new segment of the video D-SLR? When I asked a Canon rep in Vegas recently I got a marketing blabla response that "Canon has good expectations from their Cinema models", which makes it clear that marketing defined the specs
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Nice, to see you back eosfun! Guess Vegas was a success for you. And pleasure
I missed you and your comments. Wich one is wrong? I hope the MP one, not the ISO








Jan 25, 2012 at 05:59 AM
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Eosfun

It's really good to have you back on FM, you were missed!



Jan 25, 2012 at 06:02 AM
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eosfun wrote:
Anyway interesting read here on the 5D successor. I believe there is one thing in the specs guesstipulated :-) that is wrong. (


We need a hint!





Jan 25, 2012 at 07:00 AM
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Love the "Fail" button for the French market. Linguistic foresight at its best.


Jan 25, 2012 at 07:12 AM
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Rate Canon!



Jan 25, 2012 at 07:16 AM
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EOS20 wrote:
Two new buttons added, but still no mirror lockup button!


Sure there is, it is the button with the big red circle in the middle to the top right of the main lcd



Jan 25, 2012 at 09:06 AM
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the RATE button is used to RATE 'How did the outer focus points work for you" it sends feedback to Canon when you upload your pics"


Jan 25, 2012 at 09:15 AM
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There is also this "M-Fn" button near the shutter button.
I have never seen this on any camera. Is there another camera with this ?
If this is personalizable, that might be quite interesting (especially if it is possible to bind, e.g., MLU to it).



Jan 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM
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Xavier Rival wrote:
There is also this "M-Fn" button near the shutter button.
I have never seen this on any camera. Is there another camera with this ?
If this is personalizable, that might be quite interesting (especially if it is possible to bind, e.g., MLU to it).


It's there on the 7D.



Jan 25, 2012 at 10:39 AM
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eosfun wrote:
And on another note: is nobody surprised like I was that this camera doesn't have a tilt and swivel screen? For a camera whose predecessor that defined the new segment of the video D-SLR?


I am not surprised. The D800/D300s do not have tilt and swivel screens, so why should the 5D3?
All these cameras are targeted at the pro photography crowd. Furthermore, the popularity of the 5D2 in the video segment caught Canon unawares. Canon's current (and fitting) response to the video crowd is the EOS C300 + some other camera in future. I think Canon is doing the right thing by separating photography and videography gear. Some overlap is a good thing but too much of it can turn the pros away.



Jan 25, 2012 at 11:00 AM
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eosfun wrote:
And on another note: is nobody surprised like I was that this camera doesn't have a tilt and swivel screen? For a camera whose predecessor that defined the new segment of the video D-SLR?

eosfun wrote:
I predict trouble for Canon (and a few other manufacturers) from other, unexpected, companies soon, not their rivals on paper like Nikon.


I totally agree, I mentioned it on the first page of the other thread and I've been surprised I haven't seen anyone else comment on it besides you.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1079332

To make a 5DII successor without an articulating screen would be just plain stupid so I thought for sure this mystery body should be the 3D instead. Maybe the still photographers here don't care (landscapers should) about an articulating screen but they are really going to piss off the video crowd which is a HUGE market for this camera. I agree they are headed for trouble in this regard considering the low end bodies from competitors seem to be packing a lot more features lately.




Jan 25, 2012 at 11:13 AM
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^^^ If they put a tilt and swivel screen on it, I wouldn't take it for free.


Jan 25, 2012 at 11:24 AM
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Chad S wrote:
^^^ If they put a tilt and swivel screen on it, I wouldn't take it for free.


I would buy it in a heartbeat.

I do industrial and commercial work on a tripod, it would be a godsend to have a high quality full frame camera with a swivelling screen. I'm sure many landscapers and interiors shooters would like it too.



Jan 25, 2012 at 11:27 AM
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^^^ And macro photographers


Jan 25, 2012 at 11:30 AM
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Chad S wrote:
^^^ If they put a tilt and swivel screen on it, I wouldn't take it for free.


That's a pretty funny statement, thanks for the laugh. I guess you haven't played with any cameras the competition is making where the swivel screens are rock solid. You don't have to use them if you don't want to, and they fit tightly in place without affecting the ergos/quality of the camera. I personally don't care if it has one but tell this to the video/landscape crowd who makes up a huge percentage of the 5D market.



Jan 25, 2012 at 11:30 AM
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dhphoto wrote:
I would buy it in a heartbeat.

I do industrial and commercial work on a tripod, it would be a godsend to have a high quality full frame camera with a swivelling screen. I'm sure many landscapers and interiors shooters would like it too.


At the last wedding I shot, there was a videographer who was about 6'7", and he was walking around like a zombie with his video camera with the screen flipped out. He was in every one of my shots.

Now every time I see a screen like that, I have the urge to kill someone.



Jan 25, 2012 at 11:32 AM
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Chad S wrote:
At the last wedding I shot, there was a videographer who was about 6'7", and he was walking around like a zombie with his video camera with the screen flipped out. He was in every one of my shots.

Now every time I see a screen like that, I have the urge to kill someone.


Once you try one you'll realize they come in handy, even for photography. How about those shots where you are holding your camera close to the ground or above a crowd and just firing way hoping to get the shot?



Jan 25, 2012 at 11:39 AM
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artsupreme wrote:
Once you try one you'll realize they come in handy, even for photography. How about those shots where you are holding your camera close to the ground or above a crowd and just firing way hoping to get the shot?


I'm sure they're handy, but I just don't want, or need it. I've had cameras in the past with it, and it was ok, but I personally just don't need it.

I don't need video or even Live View, but none of that matters, because I don't work for Canon



Jan 25, 2012 at 11:42 AM
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