After the release of awesome lenses like the 17TS and 24TS, I was hoping for the tilt and swivel LCD as well...Not only for the angles but also to remove some of the heat from the camera. Landscape and studio photographers rely on live view.
Video is not too important for me, Live View I can't live without, articulating screen I orginally thought was useless until I had one. At first I never used it then one day I had that difficult shot and now I wish it was on all my cameras because there are times I could use it.
I noticed they moved the zoom button from the top right to the left. I preferred where it was.
eosfun wrote:
I believe there is one thing in the specs guesstipulated :-) that is wrong.
And on another note: is nobody surprised like I was that this camera doesn't have a tilt and swivel screen?
So, you know the 5D-III specs ... but then one of these specs (no articulating LCD) got you by surprise
Hmm.
So, you know the 5D-III specs ... but then one of these specs (no articulating LCD) got you by surprise Hmm. Yes, when I saw it for the very first time recently on a trip in the US. Anway don't worry, have EOSfun
Xavier Rival wrote:
There is also this "M-Fn" button near the shutter button.
I have never seen this on any camera. Is there another camera with this ?
If this is personalizable, that might be quite interesting (especially if it is possible to bind, e.g., MLU to it).
On the 7D the M-Fn button can be assigned only 4 functions: FEL, *, raw/jpeg switching, and VF level (turns on level in the viewfinder). Its other use is that after pushing the AF mode button (the one next to * then you use the m-Fn to cycle through the different AF modes. This button is also on the 1D-X but not sure if it has more available functions on that camera. The nice thing with the 7D is that you can assign a lot of different things to a lot of different buttons through an easy meny accessed from the Q-screen. This seems to have now been transfered to future bodies (I'm not sure if the 1D-IV has this also).
thw2 wrote:
I am not surprised. The D800/D300s do not have tilt and swivel screens, so why should the 5D3?
All these cameras are targeted at the pro photography crowd. Furthermore, the popularity of the 5D2 in the video segment caught Canon unawares. Canon's current (and fitting) response to the video crowd is the EOS C300 + some other camera in future. I think Canon is doing the right thing by separating photography and videography gear. Some overlap is a good thing but too much of it can turn the pros away.
yeah but the $18,000 and $2800 a body film-making crowd, not the same thing, you just say oh your covered (at 10x the price)
Chad S wrote:
^^^ If they put a tilt and swivel screen on it, I wouldn't take it for free.
why? it's useful for a lot of stills work too and you can lock it down when you don't need it
anwyay i'll take your copy fro free then, heck, i'll even pay you a twenty spot for it
jorkata wrote:
Hmm, not sure I agree with you here. And, obviously, neither do the people at Canon
Yeah, and they've been known to lose a few customers due to innovation...it's 2012 ya know? Look around at what Sony, Olympus, Fuji, Panasonic etc. have been doing recently with the compact lines. They are taking market share with innovative products, starting from the bottom up. Just a matter of time before they start putting a dent in the professional DSLR market.
I like the tilt swivel LCD on the G series - its a P&S you can hold over your head or stooped over to shoot up under a toad stool. I just can't see trying that with a 5D and 24-105 or 100 macro, let alone a 70-200 f2.8. Live view on a DSLR seems much more a tripod accessory IMHO.
I will enter the tilt/swivel debate. I think this mainly is a durability issue. I'd be worried to break the darn thing. Although I can see that it would be handy at times I think I would opt out if I had the option.
So, how many MPs does the 5DIII have - more than 24? Let's see what you are made of .
5DIII? What is that? This is what the Canon rep answered me: "Canon has high expectations of the new sensor" , "Canon will stay the leading company in the enthusiast and semi pro D-SLR market segment" "landscape photographers, wedding professionals and other demanding users of our high res full frame cameras wiil appreciate the compact size and features known from the 7D and 5DmkII camera and the new sensor performance". "This Canon camera is high performance for high expectation. It is Canon's update to the wildly popular full frame EOS 5DmkII and it's better than ever". "Canon advanced professionals will appreciate the way we added in camera image processing to reduce steps in the workflow of a pro", #just like Picture Style? my thought# "bla bla bla.....," "blablabla, is dit komkommer 't lijkt wel sla, bla bla, bla" The camera will be EOSfun to many, but I'll stay with my 1DsmkIII's for a while. That is probably the most important hint I can give now
Jeff Nolten wrote:
I like the tilt swivel LCD on the G series - its a P&S you can hold over your head or stooped over to shoot up under a toad stool. I just can't see trying that with a 5D and 24-105 or 100 macro, let alone a 70-200 f2.8. Live view on a DSLR seems much more a tripod accessory IMHO.
I see guys filming with 5DII/70-200's hand holding all the time at the race tracks. They have to hold it up to their eyes and use one of these at minimum, or even more expensive rigs:
Filming with smaller lenses is even easier. They make huge rigs for these things. Checkout cinema5D, there's a whole other world out there.
We don't know what Canon will release but if they release a 5D successor without an articulating screen and fail to release some other 5D'ish "video body" that includes one they will be ticking off a very large crowd and I could see it becoming the new 5DII AF debacle. I realize a lot of photographers probably haven't used a modern swivel but they are built so good now you don't even know it's there unless you pop it out and use it. I'm sure a lot of people are thinking 1990's Sony camcorder style but that's far from it.
Keep in mind it's a new thing for DSLRs so there will be a lot of opposition to them - kind of like not too long ago when people used to say "why would anyone ever want to text message, just pick up the phone and call".
artsupreme wrote:
Yeah, and they've been known to lose a few customers due to innovation...it's 2012 ya know? Look around at what Sony, Olympus, Fuji, Panasonic etc. have been doing recently with the compact lines. They are taking market share with innovative products, starting from the bottom up. Just a matter of time before they start putting a dent in the professional DSLR market.
If you don't have a strong consumer market, your professional market will be toast in no time.
Jeff Nolten wrote:
I like the tilt swivel LCD on the G series - its a P&S you can hold over your head or stooped over to shoot up under a toad stool. I just can't see trying that with a 5D and 24-105 or 100 macro, let alone a 70-200 f2.8. Live view on a DSLR seems much more a tripod accessory IMHO.
I'd have loved to have a swivel LCD on my DSLR when shooting from a tripod. Many times the sun makes using the LCD useless and a little swivel would have made a big difference.
I have the articulated screen on my 60D (and G6 -- wish my G10 had it!) and love it. Goes perfectly with LV and video. Great for image review, and showing pictures to others on the fly. I don't use it that often, but when I need it (especially for tripod work), it comes in very handy. No need to worry about breaking it, unless you are the type of person that snaps off speedlights from the body. It's about that durable. Break it? Fix it! The idea is: don't break it.
Gunzorro wrote:
I have the articulated screen on my 60D (and G6 -- wish my G10 had it!) and love it. Goes perfectly with LV and video. Great for image review, and showing pictures to others on the fly. I don't use it that often, but when I need it (especially for tripod work), it comes in very handy. No need to worry about breaking it, unless you are the type of person that snaps off speedlights from the body. It's about that durable. Break it? Fix it! The idea is: don't break it.
I wouldn't ever want video but I would use an articulating screen more or less all day every day for what I do. I hardly even look through viewfinders now, I just use LV instead, or occasionally tethered.
I will be very surprised if Canon don't make a swivel-LCD full frame camera before long.
eosfun wrote:
5DIII? What is that? This is what the Canon rep answered me: "Canon has high expectations of the new sensor" , "Canon will stay the leading company in the enthusiast and semi pro D-SLR market segment" "landscape photographers, wedding professionals and other demanding users of our high res full frame cameras wiil appreciate the compact size and features known from the 7D and 5DmkII camera and the new sensor performance". "This Canon camera is high performance for high expectation. It is Canon's update to the wildly popular full frame EOS 5DmkII and it's better than ever". "Canon advanced professionals will appreciate the way we added in camera image processing to reduce steps in the workflow of a pro", #just like Picture Style? my thought# "bla bla bla.....," "blablabla, is dit komkommer 't lijkt wel sla, bla bla, bla" The camera will be EOSfun to many, but I'll stay with my 1DsmkIII's for a while. That is probably the most important hint I can give now ...Show more →
So you're saying the 5DII successor (5DX) will have the 18MP 1DX sensor, 7D AF, and the high MP crowd is going to be bummed right? Economically this makes sense for Canon to use the same sensor but I would think they would offer another high MP body for the other half.
I'll be happy with 18MP but really hoping for 8fps minimum.
Gunzorro wrote:
I have the articulated screen on my 60D (and G6 -- wish my G10 had it!) and love it. Goes perfectly with LV and video. ...I don't use it that often, but when I need it (especially for tripod work), it comes in very handy.
dhphoto wrote:
...I would use an articulating screen more or less all day every day for what I do. I hardly even look through viewfinders now, I just use LV instead, or occasionally tethered.
When they're done well, I really like articulated screens. One of the best cameras I ever tried, from an ergonomic standpoint, was the Sony R1. I was about ready to buy one when Sony acquired Minolta and dropped the R1 in favor of the Minolta DSLR line.
The R1 could be used, on a tripod or off, much like a medium-format camera with a waist-level finder. The top-mounted LCD could also be tilted back to use when the camera was held over head, swiveled around to face forward for self portraits, etc. Very good design, in my opinion.
that is wrong. 
#just like Picture Style? my thought# "bla bla bla.....," "blablabla, is dit komkommer 't lijkt wel sla, bla bla, bla" 