SoundHound wrote:
Thank you Chris! That is arcane but interesting and valuable information. Apparently, only the smallish Photodiox company was willing to make such a specialized product. Shame on you Nikon!
Yeah! I agree. I still do not understand why Nikon did not anticipate and facilitate a fix for this filter problem even before they released the 14-24 lens.
Thank you, Chris. Besides on my 5DII and D700, I plan to use the lens on my Red Scarlet (as soon as it shows up). While I have a wide angle matte box that "should" work with the lens -w- a minimum of vignetting, I am glad to hear that Fotodiox will offer a rectangular filer holder. Hopefully, it will accommodate at least a standard 4 x 4 filter.
Yes, that´s right, they are making the holder in plastic because it is the best material to avoid braking it if your camera fall down, adapters are made by aeronautic aluminum alloy, and if the would made the holder in aluminum and it falls down, you would be screw if it gets dented, it doesn´t happen with plastic. Filter size is 165mm because is the size to avoid vignetting in all focus of ultra wide angular lenses, lucroit has made holders to lenses no to comercial filters size. Distance from filter to holder is 0.3mm to put ND 10 stop (big stopper) without the need of using protectors to avoid light coming in (flares).
Lucroit doesn´t have the polarizer option because it doesn´t have any sense using a polarizer in a lens that cover more than 90 degrees.
They also have thread adapters to use their system in the rest of your lenses where you can use the polarizer, because in those lenses it makes sense using it.
As a note, lucroit is made by landscape photographers, and they have adaptors not only for Nikon 14-24, they also have adapters for Canon, Sigma, Tokina... Take a look to their kits here: http://www.lucroit.com
I leave a video I found on youtube where shows how easy is to set it up.
This thread choice also affects the lens cap. Putting the lens cap on takes me a frustrating minute or two. “Big deal,” one might think. But imagine me in the blowing Moenkopi mud—I tend to set up a shot on the tripod and wait for the light to get good (if it ever does).
I rec. my unit last week and I agree with Chris S on his assessment. The lens cap is very frustrating at best. It really needs to be redesigned. I've had it fall off after thinking it was on several times. I'll do a fix when I have a little time and try a few ideas, even gaffer tape would be better. Using the threads the way it is presently designed works very poor. I can work the issue of how large this becomes with either the Lee or the Fotodix but Lee's cap at least goes on/off easily and stays on, the Fotodix cap system leaves me thinking I'll risk scratching the filters every time the lens cap pops off.
Hopefully I'll be able to test the polarizer more this weekend as well as the other filters.
You all saved me some money on this neat item. I would have bought this 14-24 fotodiox hood w/ CP kit, but poor craftsmanship with something as simple as threads is for me, unacceptable.
I like fotodiox but I bought their flash diffuser off ebay a few months back and it came no where near fitting.
They wanted me to pay for return, I tossed it in garbage instead and wrote off the minimal loss.
Why they make and offer a flash diffuser for 580 EXII flash that doesn't fit at all?
This is simple quality control, it either fits or its garbage.
Very poor quality control makes me hessitant to venture beyond buying lens mount adapters from them.
Knowing they have their own factory as discussed earlier in this thread, they should stand behind their products and pay the return shipping on defective items they make and sell.
Taoguy wrote:
I rec. my unit last week and I agree with Chris S on his assessment. The lens cap is very frustrating at best. It really needs to be redesigned. I've had it fall off after thinking it was on several times. I'll do a fix when I have a little time and try a few ideas, even gaffer tape would be better. Using the threads the way it is presently designed works very poor. I can work the issue of how large this becomes with either the Lee or the Fotodix but Lee's cap at least goes on/off easily and stays on, the Fotodix cap system leaves me thinking I'll risk scratching the filters every time the lens cap pops off.
Hopefully I'll be able to test the polarizer more this weekend as well as the other filters.
Not to sound overly harsh, since we all have a notion what we're in for, but Fotodiox is synonymous with price over quality. "We'll get you half the way there".
My last purchase from them was a macro reversing ring for Nikon. I spent 30 minutes trying to get it on the camera and gave up before I did any damage. Too cheap to pursue a refund. Actually, it's not a bad business model from a profit only standpoint.
@lucasjlon: "Lucroit doesn´t have the polarizer option because it doesn´t have any sense using a polarizer in a lens that cover more than 90 degrees." Keep repeating this enough and one day maybe we'll believe it. I suppuse they don't have windows where you're living. Or rivers and streams, or any glass objects for that matter. Interesting.
lucasjlon wrote:
Yes, that´s right, they are making the holder in plastic because it is the best material to avoid braking it if your camera fall down, adapters are made by aeronautic aluminum alloy, and if the would made the holder in aluminum and it falls down, you would be screw if it gets dented, it doesn´t happen with plastic. Filter size is 165mm because is the size to avoid vignetting in all focus of ultra wide angular lenses, lucroit has made holders to lenses no to comercial filters size. Distance from filter to holder is 0.3mm to put ND 10 stop (big stopper) without the need of using protectors to avoid light coming in (flares).
Lucroit doesn´t have the polarizer option because it doesn´t have any sense using a polarizer in a lens that cover more than 90 degrees.
They also have thread adapters to use their system in the rest of your lenses where you can use the polarizer, because in those lenses it makes sense using it.
As a note, lucroit is made by landscape photographers, and they have adaptors not only for Nikon 14-24, they also have adapters for Canon, Sigma, Tokina... Take a look to their kits here: http://www.lucroit.com
I leave a video I found on youtube where shows how easy is to set it up.
and Lee at 150mm does the job and is and has been involved in the manufacture of goods for the film and video industry longer then Lucroit. i have a feeling they have a fair idea about sizing. making a filter 165mm pretty much keeps the market to yourself for more filter sales too.
Try it on a Sigma 10-20 or with a Nikon 12-24 that admits a polarizer and take a picture to the sky at 22-24 real mm of focus and tell me if you have a uniform sky, or take it to the water and tell me if it has transparencies. because I cannot do it.
@Daniel Moore Try it on a Sigma 10-20 or with a Nikon 12-24 that admits a polarizer and take a picture to the sky at 22-24 real mm of focus and tell me if you have a uniform sky, or take it to the water and tell me if it has transparencies. because I cannot do it.
lucasjlon, you've conveniently ignored my post. No one is arguing your statements. But no one is claiming to want to do what you suggest. Please reread and address my point if you care to respond directly to my post.
