I´m really surprised reading all those nice words to this camera... I find it reaaally ugly, it looks like a brick with a fake? OVF and a lens glued to it... and man, I love bricked things like my golf mk2 lancia delta integrale or volvo 850 but this?
I think there´s something wrong with me , maybe it´s nicer in real life, but if you ask me I think it´s very vey ugly
The shutter release is below the top plate on the accessory grip. If you take both accessory grips off, you'll be left with a body similar in form to an E-P3 with a viewfinder hump, and that will use the shutter release on top.
i also don't really understand all the excitement about the look either. it looks a lot like a film OM. that's not a bad thing aesthetically, but it's not terribly exciting either. we've managed to claw our way back to producing cameras that aren't any uglier than they were 40 years ago, what an achievement! (which is the sarcasm emoticon again) from the usability perspective i view the fact that it looks like an old OM as a bad thing. it's not an slr – making it look like an slr is purposely hamstringing it. for the love of god, get rid of the fake viewfinder hump and put the evf in the top left corner at least. to be fair, this is probably our fault as the market for enthusiast cameras seems to love cameras that look like classic cameras at the expense of usability nearly as much as they love giant bulbous brick's as cameras.
anyway, one thing that does look good is the lack of excessive labeling on the camera screaming about it's wonderful tech features. i'm sure the actual production camera will have all those though...
I wonder why there's such a large boarder around the rear screen though, seems a bit unnecessary. Would be great to see a full sized borderless high resolution screen that size on the back of that camera!
sebboh wrote:
anyway, one thing that does look good is the lack of excessive labeling on the camera screaming about it's wonderful tech features. i'm sure the actual production camera will have all those though...
Why would it have all those things? Currently Olympus Pens don't have excessive labeling. They've got Olympus on the front with the Micro 4/3 system logo, the model number on top, and, in some cases, like the E-P1 "Olympus Pen since 1959" in very small print.
Jman13 wrote:
Why would it have all those things? Currently Olympus Pens don't have excessive labeling. They've got Olympus on the front with the Micro 4/3 system logo, the model number on top, and, in some cases, like the E-P1 "Olympus Pen since 1959" in very small print.
ah, your right. it's panasonic that does that. i would prefer they not have the µ4/3 logo as well on the ep series, but olympus is actually pretty good about this.
sebboh wrote:
i also don't really understand all the excitement about the look either. it looks a lot like a film OM. that's not a bad thing aesthetically, but it's not terribly exciting either. we've managed to claw our way back to producing cameras that aren't any uglier than they were 40 years ago, what an achievement! (which is the sarcasm emoticon again) from the usability perspective i view the fact that it looks like an old OM as a bad thing. it's not an slr – making it look like an slr is purposely hamstringing it. for the love of god, get rid of the fake viewfinder hump and put the evf in the top left corner at least. to be fair, this is probably our fault as the market for enthusiast cameras seems to love cameras that look like classic cameras at the expense of usability nearly as much as they love giant bulbous brick's as cameras.
anyway, one thing that does look good is the lack of excessive labeling on the camera screaming about it's wonderful tech features. i'm sure the actual production camera will have all those though......Show more →
I agree that the "prism" hump is large, but I think a lot of left eyed shooters would agree that a central EVF location may be preferable to the top left corner, despite the top left corner placement being more streamlined.
douglasf13 wrote:
I agree that the "prism" hump is large, but I think a lot of left eyed shooters would agree that a central EVF location may be preferable to the top left corner.
bah, nobody cares about that 10% of the population.
in all seriousness you can train yourself in a matter of days to use your nondominant eye in a viewfinder, it just takes a lot of initial frustration.
sebboh wrote:
i also don't really understand all the excitement about the look either. it looks a lot like a film OM. that's not a bad thing aesthetically, but it's not terribly exciting either.
It could have been a lot, lot worse... they could have hired Marc Newson to design it.
The prism hump looks huge because it has to support a full-size ISO hot shoe... too bad no one has thought about downsizing some of these accessories to match the smaller cameras.
sebboh wrote:
bah, nobody cares about that 10% of the population.
in all seriousness you can train yourself in a matter of days to use your nondominant eye in a viewfinder, it just takes a lot of initial frustration.
I actually trained myself to use my left eye a few years ago, because, despite naturally wanting to use my right eye and having LASIK, my left eye is still better, and I get less headaches. The main issue for me with using my left eye on an M9 or Nex-7 would be my face/nose smudging up the LCD. It isn't much of a problem for me with film cameras with left sided OVFs.
Surely more than 10% use their left eye, no? I can understand when we're talking right vs. left handed, but eyes are pretty important when taking photos.
Oddly, I occasionally pretend my 5N has a left sided EVF, to see if I can be used to the smudging. Maybe I'll learn to live with it. Great thing about the 5N EVF is that I can tilt it a bit, and my whole nose actually clears the top of the camera, and my face doesn't touch the camera at all.
forestmage wrote:
Oh man. I already have an EP3 and GX1. I don't want to lust after another damn camera but it's lovely and does recall my fondness for the OM film cams. I keep telling myself that my white EP3 is prettier so I won't buy an OMD haha. This tactic will likely fail .
douglasf13 wrote:
Surely more than 10% use their left eye, no? I can understand when we're talking right vs. left handed, but eyes are pretty important when taking photos.
i think eye dominance percentages correspond pretty closely to handedness (which is 10%) despite not being completely linked. it's been a while since i looked it up though. i forgot about other eye issues though. reminds me i should probably get my vision checked sometime soon.
in any event the history of rangefinders seems to indicate ignoring people who want to use their left eyes isn't a product killer.
sebboh wrote:
i also don't really understand all the excitement about the look either. it looks a lot like a film OM. that's not a bad thing aesthetically, but it's not terribly exciting either. we've managed to claw our way back to producing cameras that aren't any uglier than they were 40 years ago, what an achievement! (which is the sarcasm emoticon again) from the usability perspective i view the fact that it looks like an old OM as a bad thing. it's not an slr – making it look like an slr is purposely hamstringing it. for the love of god, get rid of the fake viewfinder hump and put the evf in the top left corner at least. to be fair, this is probably our fault as the market for enthusiast cameras seems to love cameras that look like classic cameras at the expense of usability nearly as much as they love giant bulbous brick's as cameras. ...Show more →
I could not agree more. It really is very conventional looking. It appears that they went out of their way -- and unnecessarily -- to make it look conventional, and in the process as sebboh suggests, hamstringing it, and limiting it. They tried to make it look like a conventional SLR/DSLR even though it isn't.
A lot of people want Olympus to do well, myself included. People want to be excited about this. but really I'm not sure there is all that much to be excited about when you get down to it. If you're currently a 4/3'rds owner there may be something here to upgrade to, if you're not currently a 4/3'rds owner, I'm, not sure this is going to bring you over to the format.
Well, speaking for myself this is going to make me a 4/3 owner. Compact, nicely designed and weathersealed body with image quality sufficient for the majority of things I do. Not giving up my Canon gear but I can see this filling the gap between iPhone and 1DsII. This camera with the weather sealed kit lens plus a prime would cover the vast majority of what I shoot.
, maybe it´s nicer in real life, but if you ask me I think it´s very vey ugly
) from the usability perspective i view the fact that it looks like an old OM as a bad thing. it's not an slr – making it look like an slr is purposely hamstringing it. for the love of god, get rid of the fake viewfinder hump and put the evf in the top left corner at least. to be fair, this is probably our fault as the market for enthusiast cameras seems to love cameras that look like classic cameras at the expense of usability nearly as much as they love giant bulbous brick's as cameras.
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