I have to say some of the 35mm samples seem to indicate splendid performance from the camera/lens combination.
I'd love to see more 18mm shots as well. I have a feeling this lens is the weak one in the stable, so far, and it seems to not suite landscape imaging well.
Spyro: cool, I just read that, and that is a great thing. Framing accuracy is a bit iffy on the optical finder with superimposed patch and I can't see any info on parallax correction, I doubt there is any and I doubt it would matter much since the frame lines are very generous.
EDIT: it would seem ridiculous to resort to extreme measures to enhance parallax correction and distance info for an add on adapter via mechanical coupling. I would certainly NOT want to pay that premium. If is that critical, the EVF will show you 100%. That is as accurate as it gets, and it is in the camera already, "for free".
well if there's no parallax correction on the OVF I may as well get any NEX or M4:3 and stick an external VF on the hotshoe for $100, why bother with this camera?
I've done that by the way and hated it... parallax correction is fairly inaccurate as it is, but no correction whatsoever is a whole new level of inaccuracy.
Spyro P. wrote:
well if there's no parallax correction on the OVF I may as well get any NEX or M4:3 and stick an external VF on the hotshoe for $100, why bother with this camera?
I've done that by the way and hated it... parallax correction is fairly inaccurate as it is, but no correction whatsoever is a whole new level of inaccuracy.
I doubt highly they won't offer parallax correction
kosmoskatten wrote:
EVF is the setting to use I guess, unless you shoot wide angle glass and zone focus. That would save on batteries too. 300 shots per charge is not much to brag about, they could have improved that substantially I think. Considering how large a camera it is, why don't fit a bigger one in already? A slight fail, me thinks.
In power consumption NEX-5N wins; not sure about the 7. Maybe a tie between GXR and X100, possibly the X100 edging out the GXR, can't recall. At least the X100/GXR packs were relatively cheap and easily found. What of the X Pro 1?
Do we have details on the battery, as in model number? I'm wondering if it is still a single cell "battery" as opposed to the 7.4V dual cell battery pack seen in the NEX. If still a single lithium ion cell that would suggest they are reusing a lot of the same electronics rather than refining the design. There's nothing wrong with that of course if it all adds up to harmony.
Also... was not the OVF a bigger power drain on the X100? It doesn't make intuitive sense but that was my recollection.
PS: Those newer photos do look better than what we've seen previously and I share your opinion on the 18mm... that's not a lens I'd want based on what we've seen so far.
h00ligan wrote:
I doubt highly they won't offer parallax correction
Why not? The Contax G2 had parallax correction. It may not be perfectly accurate (as someone suggested)
but it really is miles better than no correction.
The X100 had parallax correction in the OVF. Wasn't perfect but was workable until you got close in. No doubt the XP1 will have it.
Douglas, thanks for the OVF images. That seals it for me... I'm waiting for the next model.
On the X100 I found I used the EVF more than I didn't except for street or any shot with some movement into / out of the frame. The new OVF with magnification suggests I'd be using the EVF just as much if not more with the longer lenses.
After a lifetime of using optical finders on 35mm, 6x6, rangefinders, zone focused 35mm compacts and 120 folders... I guess I've adapted to EVFs rather quickly. Using a live view rear mounted finder held out in front I've been pleasantly surprised is quite workable as an alternative to optical finders for grasping more than the frame.
No doubt others have exactly the opposite experience to mine.
My hope is that Fujifilm brings out an X ILC model without the cost of the OVF baked into the price; it seems overly intricate for someone who is willing to use an EVF or even prefers them. Perhaps that's what their next model will look like.
edwardkaraa wrote:
Well, 24x36 is not a magic formula or the holy grail. But it has worked well for a century and bigger is still better. Maybe for guys who started photography with digital, the advantages of 24x26 are not immediately obvious. But as long as we obstinated old timers who have shot years of film are still alive, they will have to cater for us
really the advantage of 24x36 was that it's small not that it's large. the smaller film allowed manufacturers to make reasonable sized very fast and very good lenses while the film size didn't reduce quality too much. with the insistance on autofocus driving up the size of lenses and digital sensors performing better than similar size film it may be the that aps-c is a better middle ground of lens size versus quality on mirrorless cameras for most people in the autofocus and digital age. i hope i'm wrong on this though...
edit: what i really want is a digital texas leica or mamiya 7, but you know, with sony's evf.
I'd like, no, love, a Digital Mamiya 7 (or 6, I'm not greedy), with Ricoh's build quality, Fujifilm colours and sensor probably, and Sony's EVF and pricing structure (meaning really quite inexpensive).
Is tomorrow too soon? Are pre-orders available anywhere?
edit: Ok, that is unreasonable. How about just the above but a full frame version instead in a scaled down body. See, suddenly that seems reasonable!
michaelwatkins wrote:
Do we have details on the battery, as in model number? I'm wondering if it is still a single cell "battery" as opposed to the 7.4V dual cell battery pack seen in the NEX.
The X Pro1 uses the NP-W126 pack which is also used in a number of other Fujifilm cameras such as the HS33EXR. This is a two-cell lithium ion battery pack with a rated capacity of 1200mAh, ~ 9 watt hours using 3.9v per cell as a point of reference for potential power calculation.
The X100 uses a NP-95 single cell lithium ion pack with a rated capacity of 1800mAh, ~ 7 watt hours.
In comparison the NEX series uses the NP-FW50, a two cell pack, 1080mAh, ~ 8.5 watt hours. The NEX-5N with EVF mounted seemed to easily best the X100 in terms of length of time in operation plus # shots. Maybe the X Pro1 will also fare better.
Lotusm50 wrote:
Why not? The Contax G2 had parallax correction. It may not be perfectly accurate (as someone suggested)
but it really is miles better than no correction.
jcolwell wrote:
Of course, then nobody could afford it.
No wait! I've figured it out. The X-Pro 1 will be the 645 version...
what i mean is that the X-P1 is the same size as a leica but with a smaller sensor. it's really more like an olympus pen-f than a texas leica in everything but brand name. it's definitely a step in the right direction though.
sebboh wrote:
what i mean is that the X-P1 is the same size as a leica but with a smaller sensor. it's really more like an olympus pen-f than a texas leica in everything but brand name. it's definitely a step in the right direction though.
I agree. The X-Pro 1 isn't too different in size from the Fuji 645 rangefinders, especially the folder. The next gen X-Pro with larger sensor size will come in an appropriately larger body. Digital Texas Leica here we come!
