p.1 #4 · I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
I'll admit it's frustrating when it happens. I give 'em 2 hrs (to show me the money) then it's on to the next in line. Works for me.
Used to take it personally, then realized it's business...and their loss.
p.1 #5 · I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
Me too I give them a small window to show up or pay up otherwise goes to the next buyer, this somehow is not working for me.
When I get a lower offer I give them a deadline to pay or the deal is off seems to work.
p.1 #6 · I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
trenchmonkey wrote:
I'll admit it's frustrating when it happens. I give 'em 2 hrs (to show me the money) then it's on to the next in line. Works for me.
Used to take it personally, then realized it's business...and their loss.
I agree totally with Will! I also ask them to include a phone number so we can talk. No phone number, no communication in given time, I move on. If there is a communicated extenuating circumstance to the time limit and I feel it is genuine, the time limit is flexable. It has happened allot here on FM recently.
Lost a few sales due to this type of inconsideration.
Dan
p.1 #7 · I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
trenchmonkey wrote:
I'll admit it's frustrating when it happens. I give 'em 2 hrs (to show me the money) then it's on to the next in line. Works for me.
Used to take it personally, then realized it's business...and their loss.
Do you tell them upfront or do you just wait the 2 hours and then move on.
p.1 #8 · I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
+1 to Will and Dan
I think it's entirely fair to say up front that you have a time window within which you expect to be paid, assuming that you have offered a payment option that permits them to comply with your timeframe.
p.1 #9 · I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
trenchmonkey wrote:
I'll admit it's frustrating when it happens. I give 'em 2 hrs (to show me the money) then it's on to the next in line. Works for me.
Used to take it personally, then realized it's business...and their loss.
mspencer1 wrote:
Do you tell them upfront or do you just wait the 2 hours and then move on.
Well, yeah they know upfront when I send my PP addy. I'll wait for a guy to get off work etc.
if he's well established...never a problem in 400+ transactions here.
p.1 #12 · I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
Ed Woodson wrote:
I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
Crap happens.......
Yes, but you're MUCH better off not dealing with a person like that so it's BETTER for you that they flake-out BEFORE you send them any merchandise. Last thing you'll want is someone wanting their money back after a sale because they 'changed their mind'.
p.1 #13 · I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
Well, trenchmonkey, I wished you had let me know your 2 hr window policy yesterday when I was communicating of buying your pelican case. Just got tied up with something at work before I could get back to you (about 30 mins apart). Next thing I know, you sold it to someone without letting me know. Being an established member did not mean much here. I guess I should not take it personally as business is business.
trenchmonkey wrote: I'll admit it's frustrating when it happens. I give 'em 2 hrs (to show me the money) then it's on to the next in line. Works for me. Used to take it personally, then realized it's business...and their loss.
mspencer1 wrote: Do you tell them upfront or do you just wait the 2 hours and then move on.
Well, yeah they know upfront when I send my PP addy. I'll wait for a guy to get off work etc. if he's well established...never a problem in 400+ transactions here
p.1 #14 · I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
^ dude, you're playing the 'hurt feelings card' in public
Da facts:
You never said you'd take it.
You offered me less.
In between your 2nd and 3rd PM's with MORE questions, an eager buyer appeared/PayPal'd/had his label printed.
Sorry if you think I've done you wrong, but we never had a "deal". Pretty bush league posting, probably should have pulled
the trigger if you wanted it so bad, eh?!
Jayem1 Re: pelican Ok, that is fine. One more thing… Dec 27, 2011
07:54 AM
minimk3 Pelican 1514 Hi, I'll take it! I'm a former… Dec 27, 2011
07:49 AM
omarlyn Re: Pelican Well, didn't hurt to ask. That… Dec 27, 2011
07:42 AM
omarlyn Pelican Morning Will & Happy Holidays… Dec 27, 2011
07:25 AM
Jayem1 Re: pelican Sorry, just read it again and… Dec 27, 2011
07:24 AM
Jayem1 pelican Hi, I am interested. Does it come… Dec 27, 2011
07:12 AM
p.1 #17 · I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
Just happened to me....then he lied about me after I posted neg. feedback on him here is our conversation....check my feedback if you would like to see what he wrote. ALL my responses were instant to him (while in the middle of my work day I might add) except when I said I would get back as to how much insurance would be on a $1700.00 camera....
Right back at ya. Feel free to delete anytime - i'll do the same. Thanks!
From: Michaelparris
To: NotoriousPTG
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
What?! We had a deal.....I will post neg feed back for you thanks
From: NotoriousPTG
To: Michaelparris
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
Sorry to have taken your time but I have found another D700. Thanks!
From: Michaelparris
To: NotoriousPTG
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
insurance on that is around $25.00 give or take a couple bucks
From: NotoriousPTG
To: Michaelparris
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
yes i would like it insured. How much should i send?
From: Michaelparris
To: NotoriousPTG
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
Can ship today.....paypal gift, that is a big gift amount but we can try....california time zone. Always ship USPS priority signature confirmation...if you want it insured tours extra
From: NotoriousPTG
To: Michaelparris
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
So send $1700 total? When can you get the item shipped out? Thanks!
From: Michaelparris
To: NotoriousPTG
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
From: NotoriousPTG
To: Michaelparris
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
I don't need to see pix. As long as all it has is minor cosmetic stuff and operates 100% I'm fine. What is your paypal? Can we do paypal gift?
My address is
Pete Gebhardt
225-15 Hillside ave
queens village ny 11427
From: Michaelparris
To: NotoriousPTG
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
1700 net to me and i will sell camera....can send picks if you want
From: NotoriousPTG
To: Michaelparris
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
11427
From: Michaelparris
To: NotoriousPTG
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
what is the zip code for shipping
From: NotoriousPTG
To: Michaelparris
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
are sig primes that terrible? I have a 35 coming tomorrow. I'm afraid i'm going to miss my 24 and 35L big time I like to use as many focus points that are available. Obviously using the 5d i have to center recompose - but i prefer a 1d type arrangement. I just sold 1d4 found it very erratic and IQ no where near 5d2. I don't have a lot of faith that the 1d-x will be awesome.
From: Michaelparris
To: NotoriousPTG
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
I am a focus recompose shooter so I rarely use anything but center still have my 5d but there are a few things I miss about the mk ii. Tired of using two systems canon wins because of primes....focus tracking on d700 is awesome, but I never use it
From: NotoriousPTG
To: Michaelparris
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
I prefer the IQ of canon by a little bit but its no secret the focus system of the nikon is way ahead. I want more focus points.
From: Michaelparris
To: NotoriousPTG
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
You doing a complete system switch? If you don't mind me asking for what reason
From: NotoriousPTG
To: Michaelparris
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
No problem thanks!
From: Michaelparris
To: NotoriousPTG
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
Pretty sure, but let me sleep on it.
From: NotoriousPTG
To: Michaelparris
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
So I'm assuming no grip?
With that many clicks i'd be comfortable at $1700. Can you accept that?
From: Michaelparris
To: NotoriousPTG
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
Info in post
From: NotoriousPTG
To: Michaelparris
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: Re: trade
Message:
I'm trading them both for a d3s tomorrow. I have a 5d still available. Does it have a grip? What is the shutter count? I may be interested in purchasing it.
From: Michaelparris
To: NotoriousPTG
Date: Dec 28, 2011
Subject: trade
Message:
you still interested in the trade for my d700?
p.1 #18 · I really dislike people who make offers then welsh on them.
Michaelparris wrote:
Just happened to me....
Michael, I don't really think it's appropriate to be posting these PM's when the other party isn't even involved in this thread. In either case, I also don't think it's in the 'spirit' of the feedback system to leave feedback when no transaction was completed, no money exchanged, no merchandise shipped…so maybe the potential buyer 'flaked' on you (maybe not since that's only one side of the story), so what…move on to the next buyer. Assuming that your version of the story is accurate, then I can understand your frustration but leaving negative feedback for a NON transaction isn't right either…nor is publicly posting all the PM's without the other party present.
they know upfront when I send my PP addy. I'll wait for a guy to get off work etc.
