marioalessi wrote:
What hasn't changed is there is always people of the leading edge of style, function, form, and creating content. These people are attacked by the masses that don't get it. thats what lonely at the top means.
In a thread full of self-puffery, this one really grabs the eye.
shoenberg3 wrote:
It's really quite simple; if you are too lazy or busy or maybe just incompetent, and don't want to fiddle with settings and drivers, go with a Mac. For everyone else, getting PC (specifically building your own) should be a no-brainer.
You seriously didn't expect a statement like that to bring out acrimony in people? Come on! Your LSAT-style logical deconstruction is just a little too cute to hide the obvious effort to piss people off.
Your statement envisions a binary world in which Macs are the preferred choice of the busy, lazy, incompetent "non-fiddlers," while everyone who loves to fiddle, has time, is industrious, or has skills should build their own PC. That's bogus.
Optimizing a Mac requires a fair bit of "fiddling," albeit far less than is required to study up and execute a home-built PC. Furthermore, for many competent users, the choice to own a Mac isn't governed by lack of time or competence, but rather because they find the design ethic to be fundamentally appealing. It's pretty hard to build a MacBook Air or iMac, or find a computer case that is laid out quite as well as the modern MacPro.
I personally don't think that case is comparable to a MacPro's from an overall design perspective. And moreover, why do these things ship with LED lights? Do they think I am building a lamp or a computer?
It also doesn't look like the cable management would be as tight as in my MacPro, where I can't even see a cable. Of course, I haven't built a computer in a few years, so maybe there have been innovations in this area I am not aware of.
lordarka wrote:
I personally don't think that case is comparable to a MacPro's from an overall design perspective. And moreover, why do these things ship with LED lights? Do they think I am building a lamp or a computer?
It also doesn't look like the cable management would be as tight as in my MacPro, where I can't even see a cable. Of course, I haven't built a computer in a few years, so maybe there have been innovations in this area I am not aware of.
Personally I think it kicks the Macs hind end. How many drives will that MacPro hold again?
But hey, if you like the Mac, buy it, it's your money.
We have both Window and Mac systems at home but only Mac in the studio. I have a Windows laptop that I use for testing Lightroom presets and tinkering around with .. not that it couldn't be used professionally. I simply choose to use Mac for work because I can work so much faster and do 99.9% of everything in Aperture 3 than by using a Lightroom+Photoshop workflow.
Even general multi-tasking and web browsing is way better on Mac than Windows .. Everytime I grab my wifes windows laptop I get annoyed because I keep trying to use gestures and my wife looks at me like Im an idiot and says it's not a phone it's a computer.
xposurepro wrote:
Even general multi-tasking and web browsing is way better on Mac than Windows .. Everytime I grab my wifes windows laptop I get annoyed because I keep trying to use gestures and my wife looks at me like Im an idiot and says it's not a phone it's a computer.
It's not the fault of the OS that you don't know how to use it.
infocusinc wrote:
I will say however that your work is superb.
Thank you very much! I enjoyed your galleries as well!
My MacPro holds 4 drives, which is plenty for me; 4 3TB drives is a lot of capacity to have in a computer, and then you can start adding external drives. I also like how easy it is to slide the drives in and out on their shuttles; no power or interface cabling to worry about.
To me, the appeal of the case and layout is less about raw features and more about design. The layout is clean, clutter free, and easy to maneuver in. Apple is a company that has been committed to keeping users out of the system. Yet, the MacPro is an elegant example of the opposite, making it easy to get into the system and accomplish the the most likely kinds of upgrades (RAM, hard disks, and video cards).
lordarka wrote:
Thank you very much! I enjoyed your galleries as well!
My MacPro holds 4 drives, which is plenty for me; 4 3TB drives is a lot of capacity to have in a computer, and then you can start adding external drives. I also like how easy it is to slide the drives in and out on their shuttles; no power or interface cabling to worry about.
To me, the appeal of the case and layout is less about raw features and more about design. The layout is clean, clutter free, and easy to maneuver in. Apple is a company that has been committed to keeping users out of the system. Yet, the MacPro is an elegant example of the opposite, making it easy to get into the system and accomplish the the most likely kinds of upgrades (RAM, hard disks, and video cards).
I use my cases for many generations, which makes the MacPro less attractive to me. Want a new system, the entire thing goes. I'm not unhappy with Mac, I have a couple of i7 quad MBPs along with a number of w7 machines.
It's really personal preference. I like the flexibility and choice afforded by building my own servers and workstations. I also enjoy the savings.
I agree with that statement that Macs are the BMW of the computer world.
I currently use both systems after picking up a MBP recently and prefer it to my Dell Studio with similar specs.
all things being equal, the ease of use, accessories and the track pad just makes using a Mac much more of a pleasure.
Every time I've been in a media room at a pro sports venue the Macs outnumber the PCs by a wide margin. These are professional photojournalists that are working against a deadline.
WmPat wrote:
Every time I've been in a media room at a pro sports venue the Macs outnumber the PCs by a wide margin. These are professional photojournalists that are working against a deadline.
And it's exactly the opposite down here. I guess that proves the point.
With the Mac Pro I have never had a blue screen of death, spent time uninstalling and trying unsuccessfully to reinstall an application with fragments of DLL's stopping the proces, never had to spend time cleaning up entries in a registry, and spent less than 10 minutes dealing with tech support over the past 3 years.
By way of contrast my PC's running XP and Windows 7 require constant attention to keep them running properly and even Windows 7 still uses the brain dead concept of a registry for app info. With the Mac if I delete the application folder everything is gone. There are not DLL's to find and delete and no registry to try to edit.
With the Mac OS you spend a lot more time getting work done for which you will get paid. Wintel machines are great for people who like to work through computer bugs and spend endless hours on forums trying to find fixes for problems.
Like many other IT pro's when working with computers running XP I found it easier to reformat the drive and reinstall the apps than to fix the cumulative bugs that added up over time. Vista was worse and it reduced the CPU performance by 60%. Windows 7 is better than Vista but has as bad a user interface as I can imagine. Why should services in Windows 2000, XP, and Windows 7 be in completely different places? It was easier to go from XP to OS X than to Windows 7 and much faster to get the computers configured for the company network.
One pays a premium to get an Apple computer that runs the Apple operating system. But with Windows one pays less for the computer initially and then a lot more in terms of time lost over the life of the computer.
elkhornsun wrote:
With the Mac Pro I have never had a blue screen of death, spent time uninstalling and trying unsuccessfully to reinstall an application with fragments of DLL's stopping the proces, never had to spend time cleaning up entries in a registry, and spent less than 10 minutes dealing with tech support over the past 3 years.
By way of contrast my PC's running XP and Windows 7 require constant attention to keep them running properly and even Windows 7 still uses the brain dead concept of a registry for app info. With the Mac if I delete the application folder everything is gone. There are not DLL's to find and delete and no registry to try to edit. ...Show more →
If Macs were actually so utterly brilliant, people wouldn't have to just make up stuff like this. Seriously, that's ridiculous.
elkhornsun wrote:
With the Mac if I delete the application folder everything is gone. There are not DLL's to find and delete and no registry to try to edit.
I enjoyed your galleries as well!