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p.2 #1 · New Buy & Sell format!


Fred (Quote seems kinda wonky? See above. Your quote seems to come from me.)

Edited on Nov 01, 2011 at 03:58 PM · View previous versions



Nov 01, 2011 at 03:58 PM
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p.2 #2 · New Buy & Sell format!


Just purchased a 2 year subscription to BUY/SELL because this new feature will make selling/buying on FM even easier!

Thanks!



Nov 01, 2011 at 03:58 PM
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p.2 #3 · New Buy & Sell format!


I have a suggestion. Can u make the title section bigger because when someone is selling multiple items it's hard to see the entire title and can often miss it. Maybe making two lines for longer titles since expanding it horizontally will take up too much space.


Nov 01, 2011 at 04:04 PM
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Two lines will cause posts to rotate off of the first page twice as fast.


Nov 01, 2011 at 04:08 PM
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Great change.

I hate threads (including my own) where it says 2x price drop or 3x price drop. 24 hour price drop symbol is much nicer.




Nov 01, 2011 at 04:16 PM
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Fred,
SEE ABOVE POSTS!
I have a "WTB" ad and I could only bump it. I wanted to edit it but it required a Description, Price, Method of Payment before I could "bump/edit" my ad after the 12 hr limit.
How do I include a price in a WTB ad?
Dan



Nov 01, 2011 at 04:34 PM
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p.2 #7 · New Buy & Sell format!


Fred.

With all this talk about keeping price as a part of the listing, I would like to suggest against it being locked in. Once a sale is made, the item AND THE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT ITEM, is now the property, and quite possibly the implied privacy, of someone other than the original poster.

I am a firm believer that once I sell an item to someone, it's no one else's business as to what I was asking for it, or where it was sold to and/or for how much. That is why once I have sold items on boards such as these, I go in and remove the pricing completely. If my buyer wants to broadcast what he is doing and how much he is spending, that's his personal business to do, not mine.

Just my opinion and as always, YMMV.



Nov 01, 2011 at 04:44 PM
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p.2 #8 · New Buy & Sell format!


LOVE IT! I have suggestions to improve (in my opinion)

Suggestion #1: I should be able to post a separate FS and separate WTB thread without having to wait 8 hours in between.

Suggestion #2: The ability to "preview" my thread before "posting it" Incase I'm using HTML coding and I want to see if I wrote it correctly.

-Thanks,
David



Nov 01, 2011 at 04:52 PM
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p.2 #9 · New Buy & Sell format!


How about a "shopping" filter for each or combination of status(es)? ie. New Topics only.


Nov 01, 2011 at 05:04 PM
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p.2 #10 · New Buy & Sell format!


It looks good for folks who want to sell things but its really inconvenient for WTB posts.


Nov 01, 2011 at 05:06 PM
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p.2 #11 · New Buy & Sell format!


Great Idea Fred !!!!

this will bring order to postings and will be so much easier to read and follow postings





Nov 01, 2011 at 06:15 PM
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p.2 #12 · New Buy & Sell format!


Fred Miranda wrote:
This was not done but we could have something like. "Original price" always there without the possibility of deleting it...


I don't agree Fred.I think it should be the seller's choice to leave/not leave the pricing info.
I think that by perusing the WTS ads,you get a pretty good idea of current market value.
My 2 cents..



Nov 01, 2011 at 06:30 PM
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p.2 #13 · New Buy & Sell format!


Thanks, Fred!


Nov 01, 2011 at 06:46 PM
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p.2 #14 · New Buy & Sell format!


definitely a good adjustment to the way the board works. It will go a long way in the way of relaying uniform information in the description.

I too think the tittle of the post needs to be expanded. Perhaps even at the expense of the other information like "topic starter" and "latest poster" Im not sure how relevant that info is. I even think that it would even me more relevant to have the "Latest poster" replaces by the "price" field on the main screen since thats a required field as well now. Also worth noting that the list only generates chronologically is having "time ago" field there really relevant as well?

At a glance really useful info would be

Status | What | Where | How Much | Who | Image

STATUS
Price lowered/Payment sent/SOLD

WHAT
at least 60-80 characters (will accomodate multiple items)

WHERE
(3) character max state code or CAN, UK, AUS, ETC (this might help getting items locally or closer to you)

How much
(5) character max $12000 ( Its mandatory so why not disclose it upfront before even clicking on the thread?)

WHO
(10) characters perhaps Abbreviated to save space mouse over for complete name if necessary

IMAGE
Small icon indicating an image is attached to the post (sometimes people click a post just to see a item condition in the images)

The other information can be in the post itself like view count etc. Just my 2 cents. I helped setup a a couple of different listing templates for some work related publications several years back so I hope you dont mind my suggestion. Keep up the great work that you guys do on this forum.



Nov 01, 2011 at 07:00 PM
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p.2 #15 · New Buy & Sell format!


Thanks for your suggestions.
Let's see.

Status:
We already have that showing:
"New Listing",
"Price Reduced" and
"Listing Updated".
The other info is represented by how the subject line is displayed:
Subject line:
grayed out = sold
Italic font = pending
Striked = withdrawn
Available and read = color: #FFCC99
Available and unread color: #FFA500

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What / Subject line:
We actually have 100 characters allowed. it will only show 40 but if you mouse-over, you can read up to 100 characters. Perhaps we could increase a little bit what is shown without mousing over.

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Where:
On the FM Buy and Sell, most transactions happen in the US, so I'm not sure if it makes sense to make an entire field for this. Let me think about this.

Who:
We already have a field for that showing the username

Image:
I believe this could be ok but most listing have images. Because posters are Upload and Sell members, I'm sure this will increase even more.

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Regarding the price issue. This is always a 50/50. Some folks want to know the price sold, others think it is ultimately their decision as sellers to leave the info or not. I think that if we have "original price" always showing, it could be a good compromise, but perhaps it's better to leave as it is.

Regarding the new system and WTB posts. I'm working on this. I will probably remove the price field from the form as it does not make much sense for this type of transaction.

Fred



Nov 01, 2011 at 07:23 PM
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p.2 #16 · New Buy & Sell format!


i can't seem to get photos to show up.. not sure what I'm doing wrong


Nov 01, 2011 at 07:41 PM
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p.2 #17 · New Buy & Sell format!


Kudos Fred!


Nov 01, 2011 at 07:41 PM
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Armee wrote:
I don't agree Fred.I think it should be the seller's choice to leave/not leave the pricing info.
I think that by perusing the WTS ads,you get a pretty good idea of current market value.
My 2 cents..


FM has a strong feeling of community and as such, folks on FM look out and help each for each other. If I want to sell something on FM, I look up the price of sold items here first and based on that I come up with my own pricing. That's why I am a proponent of leaving some kind of price reference behind.

The B&S board is designed for private folks that want to sell their camera gear that gathers dust and it s not for commercial purposes. Several years ago, several sellers listed mulitiple items that they bought somewhere else for the purupose of reselling them for profit here. Back then they could list them without asking price and just mentioned to contact them for details and asking price. Fortunately, FM changed for the better and Fred implemented the requirement of including the asking price for every FS item.

It is entirely up to Fred whether he wants to impose the new requirement or not but at least, I brought it up to his attention and I included the reasoning behind that. Can you tell us the reason why you don't agree with that idea, please?



Nov 01, 2011 at 07:51 PM
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I have a small suggestion to what seems to be a very nice change to the boards.

How about a 4th icon that is color-coded to how many great feedback items the seller has? So 0-10 would be orange, 11-50 could be yellow and 51+ could be green, just as an example.

Some people have unspoken rules of only dealing with a seller or buyer with so many feedback.



Nov 01, 2011 at 07:55 PM
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p.2 #20 · New Buy & Sell format!


Great job Fred!


Nov 01, 2011 at 08:03 PM
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