It is hard to see how Sony can hope to gain traction in the 1D/D3 market segment with a crop sensor, let alone that fact that their rangeof lenses anda ccessoriesisn't quite there either.
AFAIK, the A77 looks to compete more against the 60D/7D/D7K/K5 prosumer cameras. This is a much larger segment, and the new Sony offering can claim some unique features.
I've been contemplating selling my kitted out x100 as it might be redundant... But Sony doesnt seem to have a decent pancake yet... Although an adapted m lens or pancake voigtlander 40mm f2 might just work!
You can expect the high-ISO performance to be 33% better on the Nex-7 vs the A77 since it isn't losing light to a Pellical mirror.
Which you would want it to since the 1DsIII, Pentax 645, A850 and every other camera included in the comparison (admittedly with larger sensors) absolutely smoke it at higher ISO's.
Well, thanks for the link. But I don't understand how did your reach your conclusion that the 24/1.8 is not as good as your Zeiss lenses, assuming you mean the 35/2 or 35/1.4.
Edward, between 25 f2.8 and 35 f2 comparing to this (not even talking 21)
I was just expecting the usual Zeiss clarity and look (and sharpness).
Don't see it in those images. Of course we need more samples,
those are probably just JPEGs, early firmware etc.
But only the last wide open close up
has some Zeiss qualities (including the CA...).
I don't really feel any need for this lens, I just want to try my ZK Zeiss glass
with aperture ring on NEX 7. To me this camera looks much better than
I was expecting, I like the larger size, the VF, the LCD.
The sensor looks very good comparing to the best out there.
The video feature is absolutely amazing, a game changer.
Imagine what I can do with a few of those in a professional production.
snowboarder wrote:
Edward, between 25 f2.8 and 35 f2 comparing to this (not even talking 21)
I was just expecting the usual Zeiss clarity and look (and sharpness).
Don't see it in those images. Of course we need more samples,
those are probably just JPEGs, early firmware etc.
But only the last wide open close up
has some Zeiss qualities (including the CA...).
Yep, I think it's too early to judge the quality of the lens. Remember the initial reaction at the 35/1.4?
The published MTF do look better than those of my ZA 24/2, so I have high hopes.
Ian.Dobinson wrote:
just looked very quickly at the specs on the A77 between 470 and 530 shots on a single charge are we supposed to be impressed by that
probably a conservative rating for chimpers. Engadget hands on preview states this:
"During our test period, we were able to capture 858 photos and more than 30 minutes of HD video on a single charge, despite spending a significant amount of time flipping through camera settings, reviewing images and videos with friends, and shooting with the built-in flash. "
if you need more (I do) you'll add a battery grip for $60 a few weeks after release once the 3rd party products arrive.
I am very happy with the size and controls of the NEX 7. If the viewfinder and sensor are as good as they look this will be a very compelling camera. Those who are complaining about the size of the lenses should keep in mind that one option is using Leica M glass and Contax G lenses and given that the colour edge issues seem to be resolved with these new NEX cameras that is a compelling option. Also keep in mind that the NEX 7 even with the new Zeiss 24 f/1.8 will not weigh more, nor have more volume than a Panny GH2 with the 20 f/1.7 pancake.
One note on the ZA24/1.8, don't expect the same look as the ZE/ZF/ZM lenses, the rendering choices for the ZA lenses are different than the other current Zeiss lenses and you get a different look out of them as a result.
As to the cameras, First off I'm liking the fact that there's a real difference between the A77 and A65, Sony now finally has a consumer/amateur lineup that makes sense, with real differences between all three models(77, 65 and 35), not the usual 'two sets of two/three almost indistinguishable models' that has been their modus operandi since the A200/300/350 intro.
The A77 looks good to me aside from the gimped buffer (which is smaller than the A55, which had a 20 raw buffer, also my A700 has a 18 shot buffer) and the use of SD cards means it probably can't get better performance from using high-speed cards (the actual buffer performance of the CF-based Sony's was higher due to having extremely fast write speeds. The A700 for example had the fastest CF writes on the market when introduced, being faster than the single-digit Nikons or 1 series Canons of the same era). I'm sad to see the dedicated metering controls and the Quick-Navi system of the A700 disappear but there's enough other gains to offset that. And thankfully this implementation of the Invalid Operation button (Smart TC) is finally usable since it can be set to be a dedicated focus magnification button.
I'm not a NEX shooter, although the LA-EA2 adapter makes the NEX line more interesting (finally usable AF with A mount lenses, the LA-EA1's AF was glacial, it was MF only as a practical matter). Frankly I could see getting the NEX-7 and LA-EA2 as a practical replacement for my A33 rather than the A77 as a partner for my A700.
Big news: Peaking finally comes to the SLT's. I was distinctly annoyed that the A35 didn't get it (and neither did the A33 or A55 in the firmware updates). Also controls on the A77 and A65 are far more configurable than previous Alpha's, a nice change. My A700 has one programmable button, as does my A33. All the main buttons on the A77 have at least some configurability and it offers 3 programmable buttons. And thankfully DMF's still there, as it's a favourite feature of mine (Gives almost-FTM focusing on screwdrive lenses via an in-body AF clutch that disengages after AF lock or when the AF/MF button is pressed).
Downsides? Price on the A77, it was expected to be cheaper ($1200). The A65 price is quite good though (and guys, it's no D7000 competitor, it's priced closer to the D5100 or the Rebel T3i). Limited max ISO compared to the competition (except D300s, but that's due for replacement).
I sold my NEX-5 (which I never really warmed up to because of the lack of a viewfinder) over a month ago in anticipation of the new NEX-7. If it provides better corners, like the NEX-C3 with the wider alt lenses, combined with the viewfinder and the other features, it is a slam dunk.
Wll in fairness, we have to see how the lenses do...but that is a lot of money unless the kit lens has come on....packed with the 24-60 it's what, $1800?
I'm really interested to see the noise performance of the new cropper.
Quite frankly, I'd gladly pay a couple hundred dollar premium over the cost of a comparable DSLR for the size benefits alone. The price is a little higher than I expected but it does have a lot of features and technology packed into it.
are we supposed to be impressed by that