Bobu wrote:
This was a great meeting with great people. Thanks Carsten for organizing this meeting.
But ... the Chemiefabrik Rüdersdorf was definately not an easy location for me. (...) Here are some images of the graffitis:
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#8 (50mm Summilux, f/8.0): http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7073/7372533278_094e09571d_o.jpg
Looking at the images this far I think I can understand how you felt. Graffiti, well, it is graffiti and sometimes it is a bit like shooting statues, and we know what Barnack thought about that... The difference of course being catching the art in this case at the right point in time and not only in the right light.
Your last image, the girl above, caught me. Moody stuff.
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Yes, I was in Barcelona when you met and that was an unfortunate schedule clash. I hope to meet you all, or some of you as life is, at some other occasion later this year. Meanwhile I follow everything in this thread saying Thank you for all the images!
Here is one more from me. I am having trouble finding time to process at the moment, and even my previous tour is not finished. ZF21 as always, 5 shots, pretty much as the eye saw it:
This must have been said before many times, but it is very interesting to see the different takes on the same location and especially the different PP methods preferred by each photographer - it's very rewarding.
Stefan, this was the last building at the end of the central road, with a big hole in the wall. There was a fine powder everywhere, so fine that every time you made a step, a small cloud of fine dust would rise. There was windows on all sides, so the room was very light. The tan colour everywhere is real, it wasn't grey like most concrete. It might have been painted, or maybe the dust colored everything. I made a photo of my tripod and the same location and angle, with my iPhone, and it looks very similar.
carstenw wrote:
Here is one more from me. I am having trouble finding time to process at the moment, and even my previous tour is not finished. ZF21 as always, 5 shots, pretty much as the eye saw it:
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Hi Carsten,
I'm not sure about the processing; to me it is a little greyish due to the operators wish to keep everything inside the dynamic range. As we discussed this earlier I wonder if we simply see, or perceive, the world differently. Now HDR images seem to always cause these discussions and they probably always end the same way with an agreement about us all having different tastes.
To me your image is not what the eye saw (=what I believe my eyes would have seen if they had been there, lol). I would have seen more contrasts and the clouds would no doubt have been burned out in my brain.
When you process images like this, are you then looking at different areas of the image checking they are all within the DR and nicely reproduced, or do you look at the whole image judging what that is realistic? Both of course, but what is it stopping you from burning the clouds?
We probably have different ideas about all this. I can illustrate my point by posting another version of your image but I'm not sure it's needed.
The image itself? Striking, great view, well stitched and you the image takes me to the edge of the place feeling I'm standing in front of the big opening in the building. I like it.
Yes I think seeing how others see a place is very interesting. Especially when everyone's there at the same time and has to deal with the same light conditions.
Jonas I agree, Carsten's image is overall excellent, but the outside shouldn't be of the same intensity as the inside. It looks a bit like the trees and sky are painted on the inside of the building. That's why I liked Carsten's first HDR he posted, where he missed the exposure for the highlights.
Abandoned factories and plants always have this solemn feeling to them, which is very fascinating. At some point they have bustled with activity, full of movement and noise, producing goods and providing for the workers and even whole villages - they have acted as the center of the community. When the production ends, only empty and dead ruins remain.
A trip to Pripyat would be very interesting. I wonder if anyone here has been there?
That's it from the location Chemiewerk from my side. But I have some more shots from the Gärten der Welt in Marzahn, where we went after the Chemiewerk.
Jonas and Johann, looking at it now again, perhaps I should have left a little more contrast in the image, but it was really very bright in there, and I could easily see the blue sky and the clouds weren't just blobs of white either. There were large windows all around and a big chunk of wall missing.
Some of my upcoming shots are in much dimmer locations, so I guess there will be something more for your taste too
Anyone who's interested, there's a concert and exhibition as part of 48 Stunden Neukoelln at my Atelier in Neukoelln tomorrow - a couple of my photos with alt lenses, and some nice music:
I took the opportunity to revisit my previous image, making it slightly darker inside, which I think (in retrospect and after some needling ) is more accurate. What do you think now?
Better! And the latest one on this page looks good too!
I think with HDR it's good to avoid overlapping the DR of the extreme ends. But it can be very tricky to convey in an image what one saw in person, and by doing "extreme" processing like HDR one really takes responsibility for the result - I prefer to avoid that and just blame blown skies and blocked shadows on the camera
The difference of course being catching the art in this case at the right point in time and not only in the right light.
