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p.27 #1 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Jonas, this was the "Kesselhaus mit Heizwerk" (taken from the tour webpage). The BAKO (Bakery) was the building with the huge empty halls and 5m holes in the floor. Great colours in that one, nice job. Nice front/rear division too.


Oct 11, 2011 at 07:37 AM
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p.27 #2 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Nice picture, Jonas! This is the tragedy of such meetings. The first one, with Ulff, leads me to decide that I need to buy a tilt/shift lens, probably Leica. Then a macro lens, probably also Leica. Now I need to study stitching and panos....


Oct 11, 2011 at 07:42 AM
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p.27 #3 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Philippe, the Leica lens is only shift, I think, and made by Schneider. It has a reputation of needing f/5.6-f/8 before it gets sharp. Maybe there is a better lens for you? On the other hand, the Leica 60/2.8 and especially Leica 100/2.8 macro lenses are great.


Oct 11, 2011 at 07:56 AM
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p.27 #4 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Darn. You are right. Well, I corrected that. Thank you Carsten. I guess the red wheel has something to do with Heiz-control then.

Thank you Philippe. The Macro Elmarit-R 60/2.8 is a great lens, the most APO like one of all non-APO lenses I have. In my opinion this lens is a good lens in absolute measures at the same time as it is a real good value for the money.

Studying stitching is free, except for the time it takes to get things in order of course. The T/S lens may be an expensive, and some load to carry. Money constraints are good, I don't have to think of interesting Hartblei and Zeiss combos.

It's not a tragedy only though. To me it is as much about inspiration... There is such a lot of things one can do in other ways than the what one usually does. You got some nice details I didn't see for example.But OK, some tragedy is involved; After having seen your images I now want a FF LIVE camera with a C/Y Zeiss Distagon 35/1.4. And that's something not existing, yet.

Here is another stitch, also from that Kesselhaus mit Heizwerk and taken at the top of the tower part:
http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fotoforum2011mixed/fmaltgear2011/d979-_Heizwerk_towerstitch_bw_WebM_pp3.jpg
Again the Nex-5 with the CV35/1.2, at f/5.6, 22 images stitched together. It was a bit tricky as I didn't have my pano head with me so I had to move the tripod slightly between some of the images. A total of 30 images to be o the safe side. When I was about to start over again having moved the tripod 1.5 meters to the left for a better image time was out and it was time to leave the building. Darn again.

EDIT 2: Here is a 100% crop from the stitch above. I add it here due to the discussion further down on the page:
http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fotoforum2011mixed/fmaltgear2011/d979-_Heizwerk_towerstitch_100crop.jpg

Edited on Oct 11, 2011 at 12:13 PM · View previous versions



Oct 11, 2011 at 08:18 AM
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p.27 #5 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


*Very* nice! That is the one shoot that you and only you got. We were wondering if you had fallen into a hole because you didn't answer when we shouted your name, and that part of the building was apparently not safe


Oct 11, 2011 at 08:38 AM
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p.27 #6 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


A unique shot, Jonas! and once again, proof that I don't think often enough of doing B&W, and that I should be getting into stitching. Good work!


Oct 11, 2011 at 08:42 AM
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p.27 #7 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Excellent image, Jonas!


Oct 11, 2011 at 09:07 AM
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p.27 #8 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


To be fair, when there is just a single foreground distance and a far away background distance, as in shot 1, or when everything is sharp, as in shot 2, I think stitching only gives more resolution. The look should be achievable with a single shot with a good lens, like the ZF21. Where stitching really helps is when you can't get the angle of view with low enough depth of field, or if you want a certain boke falloff which your lens doesn't give you by itself.


Oct 11, 2011 at 09:08 AM
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p.27 #9 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Some more from the meat factory with the Canon. First 3 Minolta Rokkor 21mm, last one Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/2.8





TV, Meat Factory, Berlin by pictorlucis, on Flickr





Hope and the Fairy Tales, Meat Factory, Berlin by pictorlucis, on Flickr





Laboratory, Meat Factory, Berlin by pictorlucis, on Flickr





Pump, Meat Factory, Berlin by pictorlucis, on Flickr




Oct 11, 2011 at 11:15 AM
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p.27 #10 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


I like the first picture from Jonas (Oranienburger Str.), the last Tacheles staircase image from Carsten, the Tacheles sign from Heinz and the second Tacheles image from Philippe. But my favorite image at the moment is the B/W image from Jonas.
Looks like you had a lot of fun.

Boris



Oct 11, 2011 at 11:35 AM
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p.27 #11 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Thank you, all of you! Now everybody looking at this can understand we had a great day - as it is when being together with such nice guys.

I didn't hear you calling Carsten and I didn't realize you were looking for me. But surely you count for some losses arranging these meetings?

And to be fair, Carsten is right. One may add that you get lower noise (interesting when lifting the shadows as in the second one of the two stitches above) as well as higher resolution.

But, a man gotta do what a man gotta do. With three lenses only in the bag (and for some reason two of them were 35mm lenses) my options were limited.

The first image (the red wheel) could have been taken with the same Nex-5 and a 28/2.0 used wide open. That is provided I had got the framing exactly, something that never happens to me so a somewhat faster and wider lens would have been even better. But what is a good 24/1.8 for my Nex? If there is one it certainly wasn't in my bag. A FF camera with any 35mm lens is another thing (but again not in my bag).

The second B&W image could have been taken with the same Nex-5 and a 18/3 lens. I had my Sony E 16/2.8 with me and I started with mounting it. It just covered the scene (the height was the problem) and for convenient cropping I would have had to stitch anyway, taking four images to play with.

The light conditions weren't any good though. My choice was to again use the 35mm lens and take more images knowing I would need to lift the shadows. Sometimes you also know seeing a scene you'll want to print it big so some more resolution isn't wrong. The full size stitch is, after cropping, 8141x6331 of at least decent Nex pixels- something you can do almost anything with. Again a FF camera with the Zeiss 21mm or the Zuiko OM21mm lens would have been well suited.

Hey Boris, yes, we had a good time. Thank you for commenting! Here is Heinz having a moment at the café where we started the day:
http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fotoforum2011mixed/fmaltgear2011/d750_Heinz_at_a_morning_cafe_visit.jpg
(Nex-5, Summilux-M 35/1.4 ASPH pre FLE, wide open)



Oct 11, 2011 at 01:22 PM
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p.27 #12 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Here are two more:
http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fotoforum2011mixed/fmaltgear2011/d735_Philippe_cafe.jpg
Philippe posed patiently and kindly while I fiddled with the focusing tab.
Nex-5, Leica Summilux-M 35/1.4 ASPH pre-FLE, wide open


and one more from the Meat Factory:
http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fotoforum2011mixed/fmaltgear2011/d915_smoked_cables_webM.jpg
Cables on the roof, outside the doors where the wurst was smoked.
Nex-5, CV35/1.2 at f/2.4


The last image was a challenge as the spot was close to pitch black. Partly because of all the smoke having coloured the walls and the roof during the years, partly because of the factory layout. I had the camera on the tripod pointing straight upwards and focused with the help from my Maglite copy friend. The first few images came out very bland (yes, I can be patient as well) and after having decided for the aperture opening I helped a little by painting with light during the exposure.



Oct 11, 2011 at 03:31 PM
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p.27 #13 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Nice portrait of Philippe, Jonas! I'm not sure about the one from me, though . Don't you have one where I look nice?



Some more from me, Nex-3, Leica Makro-Elmarit-R 60mm f/2.8





Lamp, Meat Factory, Berlin by pictorlucis, on Flickr





Lamp, Meat Factory, Berlin by pictorlucis, on Flickr





Fire Hose, Meat Factory, Berlin by pictorlucis, on Flickr




Oct 11, 2011 at 04:23 PM
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p.27 #14 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Yes, you are right, Jonas, there are other good reasons for stitching, and not having the lenses is certainly one As is noise. Great portraits, capturing the humour of Heinz and the intense eyes of Philippe! The tubes are also great! I didn't even see them.

Speaking of something I didn't see, the red hose of Heinz I also didn't see. I did see the two other details, but I was personally in 21mm mode the whole day, for a change



Oct 11, 2011 at 06:49 PM
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p.27 #15 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Great images, Philippe, the 3rd is my favorite. It seems that I also missed some scenes. I have no idea where your last image has been taken, Philippe


Oct 12, 2011 at 01:48 AM
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p.27 #16 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Excellent stuff fellas. Too bad I couldn't make it . Heinz's portrait takes the cake for the 'decisive' moment.


Oct 12, 2011 at 01:55 AM
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p.27 #17 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Nice radiator, Philippe! I do know where that last shot is; I have a wider shot from the same spot, I think. I am not sure what you mean about your mouth. My mouth isn't the same on both sides either, that is quite normal, if that is what you mean.


Oct 12, 2011 at 02:09 AM
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p.27 #18 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


I didn't have any time for processing last night, so here is one quick shot before I run out the door. More tonight.

http://throughthelensdarkly.com/forums/FM_Meet/CW_20111008_NikonD3_02675.jpg



Oct 12, 2011 at 02:15 AM
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p.27 #19 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


I like the first image of your last set (last page #21) Heinz, the one of the hanging electric thing. I guess it was magnetic as I also stood in front of it imaging that image, and Philippe took a shot and who else? The red hose is nice as well, and another subject I didn't notice when walking around. Well executed!

And no, I didn't manage to get a nice looking one of you...
But hey, you look happy! Should I pull it?


philber wrote:
Great portraits, Jonas! Do I really look like that, with my mouth showing that I have had a stroke And the pitch black picture is great as well.


The camera never lies Philippe... I think the image of you shows some of you as a person and despite working in healt care I didn't think "stroke" at all. Your last series is great; I like the radiator and the third, nearly monochrome, waste image.

carstenw wrote:
I didn't have any time for processing last night, so here is one quick shot before I run out the door. More tonight.
(tar, painting, bench and chair image)


That's some image Carsten, pretty cool. The painting and the buckle is a good catch, and a work well done! I wonder if you have more shots of the subject - which in my eyes is the naturally framed wall paint (plus the needed environment)?



Oct 12, 2011 at 05:07 AM
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p.27 #20 · FM Berlin Photo Meet


Jonas B wrote:
And no, I didn't manage to get a nice looking one of you...
But hey, you look happy! Should I pull it?


Off course not. I am most probably the least photogenic person in the world...



Oct 12, 2011 at 05:11 AM
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