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p.4 #1 · Canon is going mirrorless!


schlotz wrote:
Hmm... mirrorless and shooting first light or last light landscapes. Try it and you might have an opinion to share.


Like all the people who use the 24 TSE II on 5D2 and focus it with live view? Panty waists!



Feb 21, 2012 at 08:41 PM
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p.4 #2 · Canon is going mirrorless!


Canon patented a EF to small interchangable lens adapter a year ago. Nikon suckered for that and came up with the V1 & J1. Now they are suffering since its not selling well.

Patents are no sure sign of a new product coming. I believe Canon has well over 2000 patents each year. They had 2,543 in 2010. http://www.photographyblog.com/news/canon_registers_record_number_of_patents/



Feb 21, 2012 at 10:55 PM
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p.4 #3 · Canon is going mirrorless!


Ben Horne wrote:
I don't see why this is such big news. Canon introduced a *full frame* mirrorless camera in late 2005. It was called the 5D. Just use it on a hot day to activate the mirrorless feature. ;-)


Stop it, Ben! You're killing me!



Feb 22, 2012 at 01:59 AM
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p.4 #4 · Canon is going mirrorless!


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Feb 22, 2012 at 07:39 AM
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p.4 #5 · Canon is going mirrorless!


akin_t wrote:
I don't get it ...

If you want a mirrorless camera then go buy one. Why does it have to be Canon?


Because this way I'll be able to use all my Canon lenses with full AE, AF and IS. I won't need to buy into a second system.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Feb 22, 2012 at 09:42 AM
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p.4 #6 · Canon is going mirrorless!


The big cause of camera shake and lack of sharpness is that bouncing mirror ...
it also drops oil & dirt on your sensor ...

The Mirror must Die !!



Feb 22, 2012 at 09:53 AM
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p.4 #7 · Canon is going mirrorless!


Yakim Peled wrote:
Because this way I'll be able to use all my Canon lenses with full AE, AF and IS. I won't need to buy into a second system.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.


You're assuming current Canon lenses will be compatible.

What's your basis for that assumption?



Feb 22, 2012 at 11:04 AM
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p.4 #8 · Canon is going mirrorless!


Yakim Peled wrote:
Because this way I'll be able to use all my Canon lenses with full AE, AF and IS. I won't need to buy into a second system.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

People have been lambasting Pentax for coming out with a mirrorless camera which can utilize the company's existing lenses, saying it's a waste of space to utilize the same mount. Since Canon's EF mount has an even wider diameter, I think making an EF mount mirrorless camera would be not viewed as smart.

Maybe more feasible would be for them to go with EF mount via adapter. But I don't need to wait around for Canon to come up with a mirrorless. I can already use all of my Canon lenses on a NEX with a Conurus adapter. Everything works except for autofocus, which I don't miss much and if I really want to use AF on the NEX I just stick the kit lens on there.



Feb 22, 2012 at 11:55 AM
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artd wrote:
People have been lambasting Pentax for coming out with a mirrorless camera which can utilize the company's existing lenses, saying it's a waste of space to utilize the same mount. Since Canon's EF mount has an even wider diameter, I think making an EF mount mirrorless camera would be not viewed as smart.

Maybe more feasible would be for them to go with EF mount via adapter. But I don't need to wait around for Canon to come up with a mirrorless. I can already use all of my Canon lenses on a NEX with a Conurus adapter. Everything works
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I'm curious, what's the point of using most EOS lenses on NEX? Unless a small prime or zoom. isn't larger optics really awkward to hold and balance on such a small body? I bought a Nikkor adapter for my E-P3 and, while it works well, it hurts my fingers to hold such a tiny grip with even moderately heavy glass. It's nice to have a larger camera to balance and have extra finger area to grip a 70-200L zoom or 300/400L prime. I do love the the E-P3 with the pancake or fisheye. It's so small I keep it in the bag with my EOS 5D2.



Feb 22, 2012 at 12:55 PM
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To get the true advantage of 'mirror-less' you have to remake the whole system. Would a mirrorless body produced with the same EF mount be any smaller? Lighter and simpler, sure, maybe cheaper, but not significantly smaller.

And remaking the lenses gives a multiplier in terms of size/weight savings, as most are carrying a single body and multiple lenses. A Canon mirrorless could mount EF or EF-S lenses with an adapter, there's no reason they wouldn't provide one, but it would be just like putting a four thirds lens on a micro four thirds body, you're only getting a fraction of the advantages of mirrorless.



Feb 22, 2012 at 01:29 PM
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Access wrote:
To get the true advantage of 'mirror-less' you have to remake the whole system. Would a mirrorless body produced with the same EF mount be any smaller? Lighter and simpler, sure, maybe cheaper, but not significantly smaller.

And remaking the lenses gives a multiplier in terms of size/weight savings, as most are carrying a single body and multiple lenses. A Canon mirrorless could mount EF or EF-S lenses with an adapter, there's no reason they wouldn't provide one, but it would be just like putting a four thirds lens on a micro four thirds body, you're only getting a fraction of
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I agree 100%. I'd like to have an adapter for Canon like the Sony LA-EA2 so that you do have the option to buy it if you want and use your EF lenses. I would def. buy one for the occasional times I needed it. And I'd probably buy a 15-85 to use with it unless there was an excellent mirrorless lens alternative.



Feb 22, 2012 at 02:06 PM
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Gochugogi wrote:
I'm curious, what's the point of using most EOS lenses on NEX? Unless a small prime or zoom. isn't larger optics really awkward to hold and balance on such a small body? I bought a Nikkor adapter for my E-P3 and, while it works well, it hurts my fingers to hold such a tiny grip with even moderately heavy glass. It's nice to have a larger camera to balance and have extra finger area to grip a 70-200L zoom or 300/400L prime. I do love the the E-P3 with the pancake or fisheye. It's so small I keep it in
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There are lots of reasons. But first off, no I don't find it difficult to hold a NEX with large lenses...but then again I don't shoot a NEX like I would a DSLR.

As far as reasons why:
1. Carrying it as an emergency backup along with my regular DSLR kit. Much lighter than carrying a second DSLR body.
2. It actually acts as a nice 1.5x teleconverter when carried along with my FF DSLR.
3. When I want to travel without the bulk of a DSLR I can take the NEX plus whatever lenses I'm inclined to take. Particularly useful for hiking or going on vacation when I just want to take a small backpack but not my camera bag.
4. Since I can mount any lens on a NEX, I can be very flexible in what lens combinations I choose to take when I carry the NEX. For instance, the best wide angle I own is the 24TSEII. But, if I'm going on a hike, for example, I can take a NEX with the TSE, but also with a small rangefinder prime (or two). Or I can take the NEX kit lens plus the TSE. Either way, the total combination is going to be less cumbersome not only because of the NEX body being significantly smaller than a DSLR, but the rangefinder primes or the kits lens will be much smaller than equivalent DSLR lenses. The point is I can still choose to take one DSLR lens with me without needing all of them to be DSLR lenses.



Feb 22, 2012 at 02:30 PM
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p.4 #13 · Canon is going mirrorless!


akin_t wrote:
You're assuming current Canon lenses will be compatible.

What's your basis for that assumption?


Pure logic.

They have a vast lens selection and a huge user base. Why through it away? A simple adapter is all it takes. Look, the other big companies (Nikon and Sony) has an adapter to allow full functionality of their MILC with their DSLR lenses. I'm thus positive that Canon will do the same.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Feb 22, 2012 at 02:57 PM
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