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Archive 2011Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
p.2 #1Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
Tariq Gibran wrote:
That shot looks great!
Thanks Tariq. While waiting for others to share their Samyang experiences I'll spam/post another one from today. Sry for the quite large sized full one, but it really shows what I like. The house in the background is not pixelsharp (as visible in the far left crop behind the lamp), F is around 2-2.8 I think (sry, not exact here, playing around) - but still it really shows excellent performance. As well as being overall a special one. Handheld of course.
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5765%201280.jpg
And three 100%crops from the same frame
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5765%20crop%20compilation.jpg
This lens' behavior takes some training to understand, but I am really starting to like it.
That shot looks great!
Thanks Tariq. While waiting for others to share their Samyang experiences I'll spam/post another one from today. Sry for the quite large sized full one, but it really shows what I like. The house in the background is not pixelsharp (as visible in the far left crop behind the lamp), F is around 2-2.8 I think (sry, not exact here, playing around) - but still it really shows excellent performance. As well as being overall a special one. Handheld of course.
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5765%201280.jpg
And three 100%crops from the same frame
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5765%20crop%20compilation.jpg
This lens' behavior takes some training to understand, but I am really starting to like it.
Jun 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM
p.2 #2Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
Time for more spam. Here's another BW from today. Stockholm is really hilly where I live. Here's a backyard, old town visible top left.
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5778%20700.jpg
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5778%20700.jpg
Jun 16, 2011 at 01:33 PM
p.2 #3Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
wfrank wrote:
Time for more spam.
If you guys keep this up I'm afraid I'll have this lens by the end of the week.
Time for more spam.
If you guys keep this up I'm afraid I'll have this lens by the end of the week.
Jun 16, 2011 at 02:11 PM
p.2 #5Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
Helimat, very nice #2, where in Canada are we, Mont Royal?
This is a really sick lens. Have not seen this before. From today, a PP:d shot with "landscape ambitions" - which is really not my game. The Samyang is now stopped downto about F/8, sry about the large size - but it simply shows the characteristics better. The full one may look a bit oversharpened, I have not fixed my size-reductions scripts yet. Plz tell me what YOU think.
This is an overview of Stockholm oldtown, if someone wonders what all the strange watercrafts are doing they're building a railway tunnel under the medieval Stockholm.
First the PP:d overview shot with 3 layers: sky, mid and close-by bushes. Then three crops.
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5762%201280.jpg
Here are the crops. Korean engineers may not know much about PR and feeding westerners with info, but they grind glass really good.
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5762%20100crops.jpg
Edited on Jun 16, 2011 at 03:18 PM · View previous versions
This is a really sick lens. Have not seen this before. From today, a PP:d shot with "landscape ambitions" - which is really not my game. The Samyang is now stopped downto about F/8, sry about the large size - but it simply shows the characteristics better. The full one may look a bit oversharpened, I have not fixed my size-reductions scripts yet. Plz tell me what YOU think.
This is an overview of Stockholm oldtown, if someone wonders what all the strange watercrafts are doing they're building a railway tunnel under the medieval Stockholm.
First the PP:d overview shot with 3 layers: sky, mid and close-by bushes. Then three crops.
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5762%201280.jpg
Here are the crops. Korean engineers may not know much about PR and feeding westerners with info, but they grind glass really good.
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5762%20100crops.jpg
Edited on Jun 16, 2011 at 03:18 PM · View previous versions
Jun 16, 2011 at 03:12 PM
p.2 #8Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
Handheld cityscape again from here. Sry bigsize. Still no sharpnesstweaking, these are too sharp pixelwise for my actions.
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5758%201280.jpg
100% crop by the door:
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5758%20100cropdoorknob.jpg
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5758%201280.jpg
100% crop by the door:
http://wilhelmfrank.web.surftown.se/bilder/201106/Samyang35-14/IMG_5758%20100cropdoorknob.jpg
Jun 16, 2011 at 04:34 PM
p.2 #9Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
wfrank wrote:
Helimat, very nice #2, where in Canada are we, Mont Royal?
This is a really sick lens. Have not seen this before. From today, a PP:d shot with "landscape ambitions" - which is really not my game. The Samyang is now stopped downto about F/8, sry about the large size - but it simply shows the characteristics better. The full one may look a bit oversharpened, I have not fixed my size-reductions scripts yet. Plz tell me what YOU think.
This is an overview of Stockholm oldtown, if someone wonders what all the strange watercrafts are doing they're building a railway tunnel...Show more →
Nice image and one which really shows what this lens is capable of when used at greater distances. The last crop on the right even shows some moire which leads me to believe the lens is out resolving the sensor. The PP/ sharpening looks good to me. I don't know what post processing your doing on your B&W's but they look particularly luminous.
Helimat, very nice #2, where in Canada are we, Mont Royal?
This is a really sick lens. Have not seen this before. From today, a PP:d shot with "landscape ambitions" - which is really not my game. The Samyang is now stopped downto about F/8, sry about the large size - but it simply shows the characteristics better. The full one may look a bit oversharpened, I have not fixed my size-reductions scripts yet. Plz tell me what YOU think.
This is an overview of Stockholm oldtown, if someone wonders what all the strange watercrafts are doing they're building a railway tunnel...Show more →
Nice image and one which really shows what this lens is capable of when used at greater distances. The last crop on the right even shows some moire which leads me to believe the lens is out resolving the sensor. The PP/ sharpening looks good to me. I don't know what post processing your doing on your B&W's but they look particularly luminous.
Jun 16, 2011 at 06:03 PM
p.2 #11Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
Quite impressive Mat. I know how hard that is, even with a "static child" (if such thing exist, which just isnt true) it's a challange. Here's one okay-ish on the subject.
IMG_5596 700 by WFRANK - Stockholm, on Flickr
IMG_5596 700 by WFRANK - Stockholm, on Flickr
Jun 17, 2011 at 01:07 PM
p.2 #12Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
I could not share the enthusiasm on the Samyang 35, I sent it back to the trader.
Too heavy, too big, lousy mechanics, a little soft wide open and – compared to an old Zeiss Distagon 1.4/35 – lifeless rendering which can be improved by postprocessing.
But nevertheless the best price 1.4/35.
Too heavy, too big, lousy mechanics, a little soft wide open and – compared to an old Zeiss Distagon 1.4/35 – lifeless rendering which can be improved by postprocessing.
But nevertheless the best price 1.4/35.
Jun 17, 2011 at 03:39 PM
p.2 #13Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
praktinafan wrote:
I could not share the enthusiasm on the Samyang 35, I sent it back to the trader.
Too heavy, too big, lousy mechanics, a little soft wide open and – compared to an old Zeiss Distagon 1.4/35 – lifeless rendering which can be improved by postprocessing.
But nevertheless the best price 1.4/35.
No this lens is not soft, even at 20MP+. Could you share an example of your insights? And an example of an full-of-life rendering with 0 (or minute PP as in most images posted here) PP?
Thank you.
I could not share the enthusiasm on the Samyang 35, I sent it back to the trader.
Too heavy, too big, lousy mechanics, a little soft wide open and – compared to an old Zeiss Distagon 1.4/35 – lifeless rendering which can be improved by postprocessing.
But nevertheless the best price 1.4/35.
No this lens is not soft, even at 20MP+. Could you share an example of your insights? And an example of an full-of-life rendering with 0 (or minute PP as in most images posted here) PP?
Thank you.
Jun 17, 2011 at 04:16 PM
p.2 #14Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
freaklikeme wrote:
More random samples, first three wide open, last at f/4.
I think performance-wise, it's worth every penny. But it's lacking some refinement. LoCA, weird flare, but nothing major. I do find it harder to focus wide open than either the Summilux 35 or the Nikon AIS. I'm sure it's just because it's the longest 35 (hmm, I was going to type "that I own" but it occurs to me that it may be the longest period) but it doesn't feel well balanced on the camera. The focus is much smoother than I expected, but it's not well dampened and it moves...Show more →
I would be interested to hear your take on the Rokinon's color and contrast, particularly since you have the Summilux 35 (a lens I was about to buy). How would you compare the image quality of these two lenses to one another?
Agree about the focus.
More random samples, first three wide open, last at f/4.
I think performance-wise, it's worth every penny. But it's lacking some refinement. LoCA, weird flare, but nothing major. I do find it harder to focus wide open than either the Summilux 35 or the Nikon AIS. I'm sure it's just because it's the longest 35 (hmm, I was going to type "that I own" but it occurs to me that it may be the longest period) but it doesn't feel well balanced on the camera. The focus is much smoother than I expected, but it's not well dampened and it moves...Show more →
I would be interested to hear your take on the Rokinon's color and contrast, particularly since you have the Summilux 35 (a lens I was about to buy). How would you compare the image quality of these two lenses to one another?
Agree about the focus.
Jun 18, 2011 at 06:20 AM
p.2 #15Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
Tariq Gibran wrote:
I think performance-wise, it's worth every penny. But it's lacking some refinement. LoCA, weird flare, but nothing major. I do find it harder to focus wide open than either the Summilux 35 or the Nikon AIS. I'm sure it's just because it's the longest 35 (hmm, I was going to type "that I own" but it occurs to me that it may be the longest period) but it doesn't feel well balanced on the camera. The focus is much smoother than I expected, but it's not well dampened and it moves at the slightest touch.I would be interested to hear your take on the Rokinon's color and contrast, particularly since you have the Summilux 35 (a lens I was about to buy). How would you compare the image quality of these two lenses to one another?
Agree about the focus.
The Rok's contrast, even wide open, is a little higher than the Lux, but that hurts the Rok in color accuracy. The Lux handles tonal transitions like a dream. Basically, the Rok's drawing with a 128 box of high-quality markers, the Lux with 256 oil pastels. The transition of in and out of focus is slightly more subtle with the Lux and the bokeh's more pleasing in my opinion. The Lux pincushions at MFD, something the Rok doesn't do. But the Lux is very well corrected over two meters, where the Rok shows slight barrel distortion. CA is about equal, the Lux is much better about flare, the Rok's a hair sharper wide open in the center, but the Lux is better at the edges, giving you more flexibility where you put the subject in the frame. The Lux balances better, the focus is incredibly well dampened, and it's just more of a pleasure to use.
That said, I look at the going rate for the Lux these days and just shake my head. I paid $1550 for the copy I have now, and it came attached to a pristine R8 for that price. I'd have a hard time justifying the 2-3k people are asking on auction sites and the like, particularly since I'm unwilling to shave my mirrors to use it digitally. I'm going to give the Rok some more time, because the results are certainly pleasing, and then I plan to give the new Zeiss a try, but more and more, I get the feeling the I'm going to end up with the Lux on the R8, and the Cron and a 35L (hopefully II by that time) on the Canon DSLRs.
freaklikeme wrote
More random samples, first three wide open, last at f/4.I think performance-wise, it's worth every penny. But it's lacking some refinement. LoCA, weird flare, but nothing major. I do find it harder to focus wide open than either the Summilux 35 or the Nikon AIS. I'm sure it's just because it's the longest 35 (hmm, I was going to type "that I own" but it occurs to me that it may be the longest period) but it doesn't feel well balanced on the camera. The focus is much smoother than I expected, but it's not well dampened and it moves at the slightest touch.
Agree about the focus.
The Rok's contrast, even wide open, is a little higher than the Lux, but that hurts the Rok in color accuracy. The Lux handles tonal transitions like a dream. Basically, the Rok's drawing with a 128 box of high-quality markers, the Lux with 256 oil pastels. The transition of in and out of focus is slightly more subtle with the Lux and the bokeh's more pleasing in my opinion. The Lux pincushions at MFD, something the Rok doesn't do. But the Lux is very well corrected over two meters, where the Rok shows slight barrel distortion. CA is about equal, the Lux is much better about flare, the Rok's a hair sharper wide open in the center, but the Lux is better at the edges, giving you more flexibility where you put the subject in the frame. The Lux balances better, the focus is incredibly well dampened, and it's just more of a pleasure to use.
That said, I look at the going rate for the Lux these days and just shake my head. I paid $1550 for the copy I have now, and it came attached to a pristine R8 for that price. I'd have a hard time justifying the 2-3k people are asking on auction sites and the like, particularly since I'm unwilling to shave my mirrors to use it digitally. I'm going to give the Rok some more time, because the results are certainly pleasing, and then I plan to give the new Zeiss a try, but more and more, I get the feeling the I'm going to end up with the Lux on the R8, and the Cron and a 35L (hopefully II by that time) on the Canon DSLRs.
Jun 18, 2011 at 01:10 PM
p.2 #16Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
Here is an example picture
Test 35 mm: colour rendering and 3D, focus ~1,5 m von praktinafan auf Flickr
Really not bad but I was expecting a better result.
Test 35 mm: colour rendering and 3D, focus ~1,5 m von praktinafan auf Flickr
Really not bad but I was expecting a better result.
Jun 20, 2011 at 09:37 AM
p.2 #17Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
Sp12 wrote:
Wow. This is astounding.
Indeed. Makes me sad that I'm so bad at MF. I could have saved so much money.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Wow. This is astounding.
Indeed. Makes me sad that I'm so bad at MF. I could have saved so much money.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Jun 20, 2011 at 01:23 PM
p.2 #18Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
praktinafan wrote:
Here is an example picture
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/5742634786_522a386874.jpg
Test 35 mm: colour rendering and 3D, focus ~1,5 m von praktinafan auf Flickr
Really not bad but I was expecting a better result.
Thanks. To be honest that looks really good to me.
Here's an F/2.2 from today (handheld):
Here is an example picture
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/5742634786_522a386874.jpg
Test 35 mm: colour rendering and 3D, focus ~1,5 m von praktinafan auf Flickr
Really not bad but I was expecting a better result.
Thanks. To be honest that looks really good to me.
Here's an F/2.2 from today (handheld):
Jun 21, 2011 at 07:59 AM
p.2 #19Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
Now we need some comparisons of this lens and the old Contax & Rollei 35/1.4's and the new Zx 35/1.4
Jun 21, 2011 at 11:47 PM
p.2 #20Rokinon/Samyang 35/1.4 Picture Thread
praktinafan wrote:
I could not share the enthusiasm on the Samyang 35, I sent it back to the trader.
Too heavy, too big, lousy mechanics, a little soft wide open and – compared to an old Zeiss Distagon 1.4/35 – lifeless rendering which can be improved by postprocessing.
But nevertheless the best price 1.4/35.
This lens is as soft as ones eyes.. Just my experience.
I could not share the enthusiasm on the Samyang 35, I sent it back to the trader.
Too heavy, too big, lousy mechanics, a little soft wide open and – compared to an old Zeiss Distagon 1.4/35 – lifeless rendering which can be improved by postprocessing.
But nevertheless the best price 1.4/35.
This lens is as soft as ones eyes.. Just my experience.
Jun 22, 2011 at 10:12 AM