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p.1 #1Pano-mania
Please feel free to post any of your panos, or pano experiences. Any pano is essentially "Alt" no matter what gear you are using! 
I've been having some very rewarding images with hand held panoramas, especially the recent use of the Zeiss Contax 50/1.4 lens on my 1Ds2.
This lead me to take the first step toward more refined and predictable panoramas on tripod, featuring a now obsolete (but near-new) Kaidan Quick Pan II QPU-2 indexing pano head at a great price on eBay.
The Kaidan company is now out of business, and the design is ancient by contemporary standards, coming from around the year 2000 (seems like so long ago in the Digital Era!). I have to be careful, since it is out of production, any replacement parts would have to be custom made. It came with no manual, so it's been interesting, to say the least!
One of the direct benefits is that its arrival has forced me to overhaul my trusty Manfrotto 3051 tripod to remove all slack or play, and most importantly and aggravatingly, to square up all the parts so that zeroing the tripod also zeros the head, which in turn zeros the panoramic plate with indexing. Sounds easy, until you have to figure and adjust by trial and error (hint -- the base tripod must be zeroed first).
That mission completed, I mounted the camera in the vertical position, and commenced firing, using the appropriate indents for various focal lengths. Trial and error again, but there are only so many choices (around 6). I'm only planning on single row panos, so that keeps things simpler for now.
I only estimated the nodal point got pretty good results. But for more exact overlaps of foreground objects, I would have to work with a grid to find the nodal point for all lenses I intend to use, and record the information. Still, just by guessing, based on other's published pano experience, I've got it in a useable setting already just by eye-balling the alignment.
This design is pretty good, but has been superceded by other brands like Kirk and Really Right Stuff, to name a few. Even Bogen/Manfrotto has an older style indexing system.
Following are some simple backyard examples of varous focal lengths and the use of different index settings, up to 20 per revolution for the full 360 pano with the 50mm Zeiss Contax lens. I believe the 100mmL segment was set on 32 per rev, using only a portion of 11 shots. Least shots was the 16mm was for frames at something like 12 per rev.
I'm still pretty green at this, but today's results are encouraging!
Mild PP in Lightroom 3 and PSE8.
Lenses used: Canon 16-35L (@16, 24 and 35), Zeiss 21/2.8 ZE, Zeiss 35/2 ZE, Zeiss Contax 50/1.4, Canon 50/2.5 Macro and Canon 100./2.8L Macro.
ISO 100, 1/400 @ f/8.
16L
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/16-16-web.jpg
21 ZE
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/21-Zeiss-24-web.jpg
24L
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/24-Canon-24-web.jpg
35 ZE
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/35-Zeiss-50-web.jpg
35L
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/35-Zeiss-35-web.jpg
50/1.4
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/50-Zeiss-web.jpg
50 Macro
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/50-macro-50-web.jpg
100L
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/100L-100-web.jpg
I've been having some very rewarding images with hand held panoramas, especially the recent use of the Zeiss Contax 50/1.4 lens on my 1Ds2.
This lead me to take the first step toward more refined and predictable panoramas on tripod, featuring a now obsolete (but near-new) Kaidan Quick Pan II QPU-2 indexing pano head at a great price on eBay.
The Kaidan company is now out of business, and the design is ancient by contemporary standards, coming from around the year 2000 (seems like so long ago in the Digital Era!). I have to be careful, since it is out of production, any replacement parts would have to be custom made. It came with no manual, so it's been interesting, to say the least!
One of the direct benefits is that its arrival has forced me to overhaul my trusty Manfrotto 3051 tripod to remove all slack or play, and most importantly and aggravatingly, to square up all the parts so that zeroing the tripod also zeros the head, which in turn zeros the panoramic plate with indexing. Sounds easy, until you have to figure and adjust by trial and error (hint -- the base tripod must be zeroed first).
That mission completed, I mounted the camera in the vertical position, and commenced firing, using the appropriate indents for various focal lengths. Trial and error again, but there are only so many choices (around 6). I'm only planning on single row panos, so that keeps things simpler for now.
I only estimated the nodal point got pretty good results. But for more exact overlaps of foreground objects, I would have to work with a grid to find the nodal point for all lenses I intend to use, and record the information. Still, just by guessing, based on other's published pano experience, I've got it in a useable setting already just by eye-balling the alignment.
This design is pretty good, but has been superceded by other brands like Kirk and Really Right Stuff, to name a few. Even Bogen/Manfrotto has an older style indexing system.
Following are some simple backyard examples of varous focal lengths and the use of different index settings, up to 20 per revolution for the full 360 pano with the 50mm Zeiss Contax lens. I believe the 100mmL segment was set on 32 per rev, using only a portion of 11 shots. Least shots was the 16mm was for frames at something like 12 per rev.
I'm still pretty green at this, but today's results are encouraging!
Mild PP in Lightroom 3 and PSE8.
Lenses used: Canon 16-35L (@16, 24 and 35), Zeiss 21/2.8 ZE, Zeiss 35/2 ZE, Zeiss Contax 50/1.4, Canon 50/2.5 Macro and Canon 100./2.8L Macro.
ISO 100, 1/400 @ f/8.
16L
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/16-16-web.jpg
21 ZE
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/21-Zeiss-24-web.jpg
24L
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/24-Canon-24-web.jpg
35 ZE
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/35-Zeiss-50-web.jpg
35L
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/35-Zeiss-35-web.jpg
50/1.4
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/50-Zeiss-web.jpg
50 Macro
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/50-macro-50-web.jpg
100L
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/100L-100-web.jpg
Jun 02, 2011 at 03:07 PM
p.1 #2Pano-mania
With my confidence raised, I took a few more, using only the Zeiss Contax 50/1.4.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/50-Zeiss-Pond-Patio-web.jpg
180 pano (approx)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/50-Zeiss-Our-House-web.jpg
360 pano
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/50-Zeiss-360-web.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/50-Zeiss-Pond-Patio-web.jpg
180 pano (approx)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/50-Zeiss-Our-House-web.jpg
360 pano
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/gunzorro/50-Zeiss-360-web.jpg
Jun 02, 2011 at 03:13 PM
p.1 #3Pano-mania
24L2 TSE
http://www.dementlieu.com/users/obik/fpics/sm_MG_5880c.jpg
Larger at the same URL, just remove the "sm"
http://www.dementlieu.com/users/obik/fpics/sm_MG_5880c.jpg
Larger at the same URL, just remove the "sm"
Jun 02, 2011 at 03:23 PM
p.1 #4Pano-mania
Canon 70-200/4 L IS USM:
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Jun 02, 2011 at 03:26 PM
p.1 #6Pano-mania
Wow!! Those are some awesome contributions! I hope more members will add to the thread.
obik -- A very bold graphic statement! I'd like to see more and hear about your approach.
giusppe -- Your work is remarkable, and I'd like to know more about your lenses and gear.
For example, the photo below from your website is so lovely and under-stated. the crisp look of the buildings, like medium format. Zeiss lens?
http://suadoni.zenfolio.com/lofoten_vesteralen_norway/e221907eb
Carsten -- Those are some rich shots of the cars! So ornate and well framed.
obik -- A very bold graphic statement! I'd like to see more and hear about your approach.
giusppe -- Your work is remarkable, and I'd like to know more about your lenses and gear.
For example, the photo below from your website is so lovely and under-stated. the crisp look of the buildings, like medium format. Zeiss lens?
http://suadoni.zenfolio.com/lofoten_vesteralen_norway/e221907eb
Carsten -- Those are some rich shots of the cars! So ornate and well framed.
Jun 02, 2011 at 04:11 PM
p.1 #7Pano-mania
Gunzorro, if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. I'm not really comfortable just blathering on and on without any direction.
This particular image is a little disappointing personally--the blue of the projector light is completely true to life, but the sickly yellow-orange of the vapor lamps is is way too juiced...but pulling the color back locally makes the image unbalanced. I'll reshoot when conditions are right and hope that changing the composition will let me bring the colors back where they need to be. I was also having gear issues when I shot this, which also taints my enjoyment of the image.
Unfortunately I don't have any other images I can share in the alt forum (I replaced my budget alts as quickly as I could and I've only shot a handful of panos, most of which are too bad to share).
This particular image is a little disappointing personally--the blue of the projector light is completely true to life, but the sickly yellow-orange of the vapor lamps is is way too juiced...but pulling the color back locally makes the image unbalanced. I'll reshoot when conditions are right and hope that changing the composition will let me bring the colors back where they need to be. I was also having gear issues when I shot this, which also taints my enjoyment of the image.
Unfortunately I don't have any other images I can share in the alt forum (I replaced my budget alts as quickly as I could and I've only shot a handful of panos, most of which are too bad to share).
Jun 02, 2011 at 05:29 PM
p.1 #8Pano-mania
Personally, I'm always intrigued by contrasts in tone and color. The blue/blue-violet/yellow are all quite impressive. I can understand that it's not what you intended, but it makes a strong statement.
My main question is simple: was this a 3-shot shifted pano?
My main question is simple: was this a 3-shot shifted pano?
Jun 02, 2011 at 05:53 PM
p.1 #9Pano-mania
i've got a few, all handheld and just handed off to photoshop because i just don't care enough to carry tripod with me...
here's is probably my biggest one by angle of view (~180°). taken with the canon FL 55/1.2:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5104/5626109685_5d86c6c07d_b.jpg
here it is much larger
a few more with the same lens:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2687/4197181581_9bb89afe2b_b.jpg
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4089/5394496683_0fc3fb2bd7_b.jpg
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this last one didn't work out quite as well as i wanted because i overestimated my dof at f/5.6
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4464851682_8f949abd97_b.jpg
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here's is probably my biggest one by angle of view (~180°). taken with the canon FL 55/1.2:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5104/5626109685_5d86c6c07d_b.jpg
here it is much larger
a few more with the same lens:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2687/4197181581_9bb89afe2b_b.jpg
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4089/5394496683_0fc3fb2bd7_b.jpg
larger
this last one didn't work out quite as well as i wanted because i overestimated my dof at f/5.6
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4464851682_8f949abd97_b.jpg
larger
Jun 02, 2011 at 06:02 PM
p.1 #11Pano-mania
Some from 2009 in Italy
Lago di Garda
St Peter Square
Trento
Cheers
Armand
Lago di Garda
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St Peter Square
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Trento
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Cheers
Armand
Jun 02, 2011 at 07:23 PM
p.1 #13Pano-mania
Alright, I'm happy to share... You'll have to click on them, because they're large and hosted individually. All the ones I've listed below are shot with a Sony 850 and Tamron 28-75 f/2.8, which I guess is mildly alternative. I have others on my landscape section that are shot with Canon gear, but I'll leave those out of this thread.
Point Reyes, CA:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/ca/091123.htm
Mount Whitney, CA:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/sierra/100615.htm
The Tetons, WY:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/rockies/100716.htm
Bryce, UT:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/utah/bryce_glory.htm
Aspens, UT:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/utah/skyline_aspens.htm
Sedona, AZ:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/sedona/100314.htm
Enjoy!
Point Reyes, CA:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/ca/091123.htm
Mount Whitney, CA:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/sierra/100615.htm
The Tetons, WY:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/rockies/100716.htm
Bryce, UT:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/utah/bryce_glory.htm
Aspens, UT:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/utah/skyline_aspens.htm
Sedona, AZ:
http://markhespenheide.com/landscape/sedona/100314.htm
Enjoy!
Jun 02, 2011 at 08:51 PM
p.1 #14Pano-mania
ok, I'm in a pano kind of mood today...
early morning at Lake Louise:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/3902702350_02802a9ccc.jpg
New York City:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/3101827243_4cbfe9d004_b.jpg
early morning at Lake Louise:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/3902702350_02802a9ccc.jpg
New York City:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/3101827243_4cbfe9d004_b.jpg
Jun 02, 2011 at 08:59 PM
p.1 #15Pano-mania
These are ALL reposts but what the hey:
6 Vertical frames with 18mm Distagon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/60/original/PurakaunuiFalls.jpg
about 10 vertical frames with 35mm C-Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/77/original/BogOfEternalStench.jpg
about 9 vertical frames with 25mm Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/120/original/TeMataPeak.jpg
about 15 vertical frames with 35mm C-Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/73/original/ArthursPass1.jpg
about 15 vertical frames (I think) with 25mm Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/72/original/AmongBrothers.jpg
3 rows of 8 frames with 75mm Summicron on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/86/original/FranzJosef.jpg
7 vertical frames with 25mm Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/96/original/Kaikoura.jpg
about 8 frames with 25mm Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/113/original/QueenstownLake.jpg
Same as above
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/131/original/MtCookSunrise.jpg
6 Vertical frames with 18mm Distagon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/60/original/PurakaunuiFalls.jpg
about 10 vertical frames with 35mm C-Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/77/original/BogOfEternalStench.jpg
about 9 vertical frames with 25mm Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/120/original/TeMataPeak.jpg
about 15 vertical frames with 35mm C-Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/73/original/ArthursPass1.jpg
about 15 vertical frames (I think) with 25mm Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/72/original/AmongBrothers.jpg
3 rows of 8 frames with 75mm Summicron on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/86/original/FranzJosef.jpg
7 vertical frames with 25mm Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/96/original/Kaikoura.jpg
about 8 frames with 25mm Biogon on M9
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/113/original/QueenstownLake.jpg
Same as above
http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/system/images/131/original/MtCookSunrise.jpg
Jun 02, 2011 at 10:12 PM
p.1 #17Pano-mania
Uh-oh ... I see a new favorite thread on the 'horizon'. 
Pano-newbie here looking for techniqe/software/workflow/etc.
Very nice stuff guys ... keep 'em coming (hope to join you with something worthy).
Pano-newbie here looking for techniqe/software/workflow/etc.
Very nice stuff guys ... keep 'em coming (hope to join you with something worthy).
Jun 03, 2011 at 04:18 AM
p.1 #18Pano-mania
Hey Rust,
If you get ahold of AutoPano somehow there just about isn't any workflow. Just point it to your card dump and it'll automatically assemble all of the panoramas contained inside.
You can PP before or after as desired - I've found no difference there.
Here's one of mine done with the Zuiko 35-70/3.6:
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Panoramas/__6_Image_pano_Oly_35-70mm_f3.6.jpg
If you get ahold of AutoPano somehow there just about isn't any workflow. Just point it to your card dump and it'll automatically assemble all of the panoramas contained inside.
You can PP before or after as desired - I've found no difference there.
Here's one of mine done with the Zuiko 35-70/3.6:
http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Panoramas/__6_Image_pano_Oly_35-70mm_f3.6.jpg
Jun 03, 2011 at 05:04 AM
p.1 #19Pano-mania
Kent, what kind of panoramas do you want to do, multi-row or single-row. If the latter, and if you already have anything from RRS, then I would recommend their panorama rail. I also use Autopano Pro.
Jun 03, 2011 at 05:15 AM
p.1 #20Pano-mania
Some great landscape panoramas here. Don't you have trouble blending the individual shots? I never tried myself but I imagine water to be difficult since it's moving all the time. Maybe I underestimate the capabilities of the stitching softwares.
Here are my attempts.
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Jun 03, 2011 at 05:31 AM