these looks like pop to me (both w/o pp)
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105mm f2.5 nikon MF

i like this lens...105mm f2.5....more pop perhaps ....if i remember correctly these were also not pped..

hm ...

nikanon3, for me your pictures are "normal". they do not have the 3D (for me).

-L.

.. here it is only the big difference in sharpness... and the background is not too much blurred.


Ultron SLII 40mm 2.0

- L.

... and the rokkor 58mm 1.2 has it wide open:

hmm..ok..i thought it was popping...tho i am not sure what exactly this means...

it is a difficult topic.

it is just an illusion, since the fotos are clearly 2D. but once i read, that 10% of the people cannot notice 3D in the real world - ... so, how can they have that illusion.... very difficult ... could be different from person to person ...

Don't hit yourself in the head with this Japanese Iwo Jima WWII canon.
Pentax LX
Carl Zeiss 28mm f/2 ZK

^This shot is a close focus pop rather than a 3D pop but yes it pops.

ja, well done

Pentax 43mm ltd

I have not seen more pop than that in any 35mm lens.

Uzay wrote:
^This shot is a close focus pop rather than a 3D pop but yes it pops.

this is a new distinction to me in a category that already has 5 or 6 separate definitions...

Uzay wrote:
^This shot is a close focus pop rather than a 3D pop but yes it pops.
^more than this: it's close focus - wide angle pop.

sebboh wrote:
Uzay wrote:
^This shot is a close focus pop rather than a 3D pop but yes it pops.

this is a new distinction to me in a category that already has 5 or 6 separate definitions...


H.Lux wrote:
Uzay wrote:
^This shot is a close focus pop rather than a 3D pop but yes it pops.
^more than this: it's close focus - wide angle pop.




There was a pic in the Zeiss thread showing the exact 3D to my taste where the subject(rocks) was not so close but there was the 3D,

You can get the pop effect like in that cannon shot above with most of the alt lenses or even not alt AF lenses. Focus area (subject) and OOF area seperation is the key. Some lenses do this smootly some harsh, here the bokeh is the key which is the characteristic of the lens.

Oly 28/3.5

DOF is obviously in play on this one, but notice the tee box marker vs. the ball.

The Oly 28/3.5 will never be the "Most" or a "Zeiss Killer" ... but it is surprisingly so ... especially for such a $$$ friendly lens.

LeadyGonzales wrote:
it is a difficult topic.

it is just an illusion, since the fotos are clearly 2D. but once i read, that 10% of the people cannot notice 3D in the real world - ... so, how can they have that illusion.... very difficult ... could be different from person to person ...


Sometimes it helps to close one eye and look. Yes, it is all illusionary as to how the eye/brain interprets. From previous threads, I gather that about 2/3 can 'see it' better and 1/3 to a lesser degree or not at all.

"3D" term always invites a controversy (I myself don't mind though), so I usually use term "pop-out" ...

#1 Carl Zeiss 85/1.4 C/Y

#2 Leica Summicron 90/2

nixland wrote:
"3D" term always invites a controversy (I myself don't mind though), so I usually use term "pop-out" ...

#1 Carl Zeiss 85/1.4 C/Y

#2 Leica Summicron 90/2



First one, the guy with the bike is 3D to my eyes.

you can have pop out without "3D", rokkor 28mm 2.0:



-L.

in my opinion "3D" always requires some gradient in sharpness. if it is real or just imagined by you:

rokkor 85mm 1.7 (+3 achromat)