which lens has the most 3D POP?
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nikanon3
Registered: May 17, 2011
Total Posts: 55
Country: United States

these looks like pop to me (both w/o pp)
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105mm f2.5 nikon MF
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/5841265664_5c27da84db_z.jpg

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leica summicron 50mm
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/5859913016_bc3ba267be_z.jpg



nikanon3
Registered: May 17, 2011
Total Posts: 55
Country: United States

i like this lens...105mm f2.5....more pop perhaps ....if i remember correctly these were also not pped..

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5120/5840710381_939eb1f55d_z.jpg
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/5075377275_bc5d04e854_z.jpg
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4148/5075976908_d4aa7ed234_z.jpg



LeadyGonzales
Registered: May 19, 2011
Total Posts: 422
Country: Switzerland

hm ...

nikanon3, for me your pictures are "normal". they do not have the 3D (for me).

-L.



LeadyGonzales
Registered: May 19, 2011
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.. here it is only the big difference in sharpness... and the background is not too much blurred.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5271/5906196630_c63d6af337_b.jpg

Ultron SLII 40mm 2.0

- L.



LeadyGonzales
Registered: May 19, 2011
Total Posts: 422
Country: Switzerland

... and the rokkor 58mm 1.2 has it wide open:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5068/5897431164_a7fe67a65a_b.jpg



nikanon3
Registered: May 17, 2011
Total Posts: 55
Country: United States

hmm..ok..i thought it was popping...tho i am not sure what exactly this means...



LeadyGonzales
Registered: May 19, 2011
Total Posts: 422
Country: Switzerland

it is a difficult topic.

it is just an illusion, since the fotos are clearly 2D. but once i read, that 10% of the people cannot notice 3D in the real world - ... so, how can they have that illusion.... very difficult ... could be different from person to person ...



I Am Luna
Registered: Nov 19, 2008
Total Posts: 427
Country: Japan

Don't hit yourself in the head with this Japanese Iwo Jima WWII canon.
Pentax LX
Carl Zeiss 28mm f/2 ZK



Uzay
Registered: Sep 24, 2010
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Country: Turkey

^This shot is a close focus pop rather than a 3D pop but yes it pops.



LeadyGonzales
Registered: May 19, 2011
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Country: Switzerland

ja, well done



SloPhoto
Registered: Feb 18, 2008
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Pentax 43mm ltd

I have not seen more pop than that in any 35mm lens.



sebboh
Registered: Nov 02, 2009
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Country: United States

Uzay wrote:
^This shot is a close focus pop rather than a 3D pop but yes it pops.


this is a new distinction to me in a category that already has 5 or 6 separate definitions...



H.Lux
Registered: Nov 21, 2010
Total Posts: 450
Country: Germany

Uzay wrote:
^This shot is a close focus pop rather than a 3D pop but yes it pops.

^more than this: it's close focus - wide angle pop.



Uzay
Registered: Sep 24, 2010
Total Posts: 1370
Country: Turkey

sebboh wrote:
Uzay wrote:
^This shot is a close focus pop rather than a 3D pop but yes it pops.


this is a new distinction to me in a category that already has 5 or 6 separate definitions...



H.Lux wrote:
Uzay wrote:
^This shot is a close focus pop rather than a 3D pop but yes it pops.

^more than this: it's close focus - wide angle pop.





There was a pic in the Zeiss thread showing the exact 3D to my taste where the subject(rocks) was not so close but there was the 3D,

You can get the pop effect like in that cannon shot above with most of the alt lenses or even not alt AF lenses. Focus area (subject) and OOF area seperation is the key. Some lenses do this smootly some harsh, here the bokeh is the key which is the characteristic of the lens.



RustyBug
Registered: Feb 02, 2009
Total Posts: 13590
Country: United States

Oly 28/3.5

DOF is obviously in play on this one, but notice the tee box marker vs. the ball.

The Oly 28/3.5 will never be the "Most" or a "Zeiss Killer" ... but it is surprisingly so ... especially for such a $$$ friendly lens.



RustyBug
Registered: Feb 02, 2009
Total Posts: 13590
Country: United States

LeadyGonzales wrote:
it is a difficult topic.

it is just an illusion, since the fotos are clearly 2D. but once i read, that 10% of the people cannot notice 3D in the real world - ... so, how can they have that illusion.... very difficult ... could be different from person to person ...


Sometimes it helps to close one eye and look. Yes, it is all illusionary as to how the eye/brain interprets. From previous threads, I gather that about 2/3 can 'see it' better and 1/3 to a lesser degree or not at all.



nixland
Registered: Jun 30, 2011
Total Posts: 601
Country: Indonesia

"3D" term always invites a controversy (I myself don't mind though), so I usually use term "pop-out" ...

#1 Carl Zeiss 85/1.4 C/Y

#2 Leica Summicron 90/2



Uzay
Registered: Sep 24, 2010
Total Posts: 1370
Country: Turkey

nixland wrote:
"3D" term always invites a controversy (I myself don't mind though), so I usually use term "pop-out" ...

#1 Carl Zeiss 85/1.4 C/Y

#2 Leica Summicron 90/2



First one, the guy with the bike is 3D to my eyes.



LeadyGonzales
Registered: May 19, 2011
Total Posts: 422
Country: Switzerland

you can have pop out without "3D", rokkor 28mm 2.0:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5312/5894312843_2dcc38fc70_b.jpg


-L.



LeadyGonzales
Registered: May 19, 2011
Total Posts: 422
Country: Switzerland

in my opinion "3D" always requires some gradient in sharpness. if it is real or just imagined by you:

rokkor 85mm 1.7 (+3 achromat)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5063/5894313235_e5823061e5_b.jpg



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